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Loren Eberly

Mount Vernon, OH

#405072 Nov 26, 2012
Religion:

All religions defy USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials We the Government elects. Hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for tax refunds awarded donors supporting religious leaders living on tax deductible donations. Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. That School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405073 Nov 26, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
God sends no one to hell. He simply points the way to heaven...and makes it plain that the opposite direction is the road to hell.
WOW!! What will happen to me? You seem to know. Please tell!!
confrinting with the word wrote:
Make your choice (He gives you that).
Oh wait - belay the last statement - you are talking about Self again.
confrinting with the word wrote:
Don't accuse God of destroying the Dali Lama. God knows the heart...and the D.L.'s heart determines his end.
One can only speculate, and you do this well. Just don't stick up for "God" - I think "He" can handle "Himself".

If "he" feels that someone is unjust towards "Him", I would suppose "He" will address the situation without your consort.
confrinting with the word wrote:
Keys are the means of opening doors. For instance: Wisdom is the 'key' to opening the door of understanding.
And Self is the essence of any characteristic that you express.
confrinting with the word wrote:
Jesus is the 'door' to life;
Why don't you believe him then?
confrinting with the word wrote:
LOVE is the key.
It's a given. But for you to keep repeating it openly, don't you think others understand this already?
confrinting with the word wrote:
Fussing and bitterness are keys to destruction.
KayMarie
Then why are exhibiting these towards me? Why do you even have to "fuss" over what I say?

Isn't being here - well - "a bit fussy" when you've expressed your thoughts?
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#405074 Nov 26, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the scriptures it was Eve that made the mistake.
If our world today claims you make a mistake religious teachings claim you can be given a second chance through forgiveness.
If you believe in Adam and Eve why then were they not given a second chance of repentence and forgiveness?
Two people without knowledge tempted by a talking serpent, to eat from a tree that would provide them with the knowledge of why they weren't to eat from the tree of knowledge.
makes no common sense.....
.....and I don't believe the story....
You are searching, Michael, whether you want to believe it or not....

You are asking questions and trying to get an understanding, whether you want to believe it or not....

Yes, Eve sinned first....but,

Was Eve created when God talked about not eating of the forbidden tree???

NO!!!

Eve had not yet been created when God told Adam about the forbidden tree.

Why did God rebuke Adam first???
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#405075 Nov 26, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
I know what you are talking about and I also have the comfort of Jesus
Christ..
The word says
Isa 53:4 --->Surely he hath borne our griefs,
and carried our sorrows:<--- yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities:
---> the chastisement of our peace was upon him; <---and with his stripes we are healed.
Blessings!!!

We have to keep our eyes focused on God even in times of sorrow...
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#405076 Nov 26, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I am sure he has taken care of that...
Yes...I am hoping and praying....the angels will be rejoicing...

Praise the Lord!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405077 Nov 26, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="New Age Spiritual Leader"
"God sometimes deliberately leaves out something that might be 'worshipped'. He did not reveal the grave site of Moses, because men would have built a worship site there; honoring the servant, rather than the Master."
Thinking you know what "God" can or cannot do is not being honest.
Why do you try and mislead others?
**********
There is nothing impossible with God (Jesus said so). He can do whatever He wishes.
You are not 'truth personified', but you accuse everyone else of lying IF YOU DON'T agree with them.
You are the deceiver...
KayMarie
"there is nothing impossible with God (Jesus said so)."

Prove it.

Your speculation is Self. Why do you ignore this?

I pray that "God" will give you understanding, instead of the ability to mislead others.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405078 Nov 26, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
You are the deceiver...
KayMarie
Prove it.

What have I stated that has deceived you?

Maybe it is yourself deceiving your Self.

Prove to me that I've placed deception in any of my posts.

You may talk a good game at your weekly Canasta gathering - but, it won't work here.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#405079 Nov 26, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Genesis 17:11
11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you.
Circumcision was a command of God in the covenant that God made with Abraham in the Old Testament.
Could not be a descendant of Abraham without circumcision, and no one else was included in the promises that God made to Abraham.
All uncircumcised people were CUT OFF from being in Abraham's family.
Now, think about it.....aren't we CUT OFF from being in the body of Christ (the body of believers)(the church) if we ARE NOT baptized??????????
Circumcision was imposed on the Nation of Israel by the Law of Moses.
Baptism is imposed on what???
All nations....
Matthew 25:32
32 *All the nations* will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
Matthew 28:19
19 Therefore go and make disciples *of all nations,* baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Truth good friend

I think I understand what you are saying. And I too compare baptism with circumcision.

The problem is that it is not a "command" as you state, but it is a sign.

I looked up the Genesis 17:10,11 scriptures in Hebrew....and while we state, or imply it as a command in our many versions in English, that word is not used in Hebrew. Rather the best way is to leave it just as a token/sign....For us the word token is rather kind of a symbolic action and a "trifle" in our language, so I think "sign" is a better translation. It is more weighty, but leaves.

But as for those who follow in faith of Abraham(Romans 4:11), this too is a sign....some have yet to become circumcised, while others have made it a sign, so too is baptism.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405080 Nov 26, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
You are the deceiver...
KayMarie
Oh yeah - you may want to restate this, because it is you whom is stating what "God" can and cannot do. I don't.

Whom is really deceiving others?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#405081 Nov 26, 2012
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Preston mo one with a heart would make fun of a retard child.
Or a child with a disablity. I have a grandson who is 18 now and just started to live on his own.
There are challenges for him but he is doing it. the left side of his body is like dead weight but he manages just great.
He only has one 1/4 of his brain that is operating, he is a wonderful boy happy and always smiling. God has blessed us richly with this child.
He has a Husky dog, and he gets up at 5:30 every morning and takes that dog for a walk, before he catches his school bus to a program were he is learning life skills.
I am sorry about your lose Preston, I have never lost a child to death, so to say I know how you feel won't be true.
But I have lost most of my family to alcohol, I have had to call police on my daughter and son 2-3 times one tried to beat me up the other my husband. Its heart breaking Preston.
We all have issues and things that have happened in our life that has formed our personality Preston.
I have been a street Mom to I don't know how many kids, I still get phone calls from many of them who were abused and just thrown out of the house. One man just came back He is in his 50's now its funny to see him, he was all pimples and a long neck last time I saw him LOL.
I gave him a little Bible when he left my house, he still had it and it was well used.
God doesn't want us fighting and judging each other Preston, no father wants to see his childing fighting among their children.
Everyone has a story to tell Preston life lessons that God has allowed in our lifes to use us to help others.
So lets prove to the nonbelievers that Born again Christians are not hateful mean people, but God fearing lovely people who are tolerate of others even if they are not were the other is Spirituality. Our journey isn't over yet Preston, God's plan for our life is unfolding at His speed not anyone elses.
WE ARE HIS WORKERMANSHIP. SOME OF US ARE PETERS AND PAULS, WHY WE ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE LIKE THEM WE ARE TO STRIVE TO BE LIKE JESUS.
SOME OF US MAY HAVE ALONG WAY TO GO, BUT BY THE GRACE OF GOD WE WILL GET THERE.

*********

When Joseph's brothers feared that he would retaliate after their father died, Joseph said, "You meant it for evil, BUT GOD USED IT FOR GOOD."

If we trust God's mercy, He will 'work all things together for our good'. He doesn't send evil...but when it comes, He knows how to get us 'home'.

KayMarie

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#405082 Nov 26, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
See this scripture:
Colossians 2:11
11 In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands (PHYSICAL.) Your whole self ruled by the flesh (sinful state of human beings) was put off when you were circumcised by Christ (SPIRITUAL,)
Truth good friend

Yes. A very powerful and vivid picture, that Paul describes here.

Remember though, this was addressed to the Colossians, some of whom were falling back into their pagan worship, and making it a part of Christianity. I think Paul's emphasis here is that (they) we have been and are seperated to God, by Christ.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#405083 Nov 26, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Truth good friend
I think I understand what you are saying. And I too compare baptism with circumcision.
The problem is that it is not a "command" as you state, but it is a sign.
I looked up the Genesis 17:10,11 scriptures in Hebrew....and while we state, or imply it as a command in our many versions in English, that word is not used in Hebrew. Rather the best way is to leave it just as a token/sign....For us the word token is rather kind of a symbolic action and a "trifle" in our language, so I think "sign" is a better translation. It is more weighty, but leaves.
But as for those who follow in faith of Abraham(Romans 4:11), this too is a sign....some have yet to become circumcised, while others have made it a sign, so too is baptism.
Robert,

I have to disagree with you....baptism is a command....

Do you think that repentance is a command???

As important as baptism is for the forgiveness of your sins making you pure and being buried with Christ, how can you then say it is not a command???

A person with true faith will want to follow the commands of Christ. There are many commands of Christ in the New Testament that we MUST follow and I am NOT talking about the 10 Commandments....

When it comes to the commands of Jesus/God, obedience to those commands are never optional as we MUST do God's will and NOT man's will.

Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#405084 Nov 26, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Truth says........Adam lived physically until the age of 930. OK! thats probably when the earth was young and spun much faster and days and years clicked off at a rapid pace. When the earth started slowing down people started living shorter periods of time.(lol)
So much fallicy in the bible, and the sad part is people actually believe it.
makes no common sense.....
But it was believed in the early Iron Age, so it must be true....

along with talking snakes and bushes.

And the stars are for signs. They somehow forgot that one.

And the moon is a mini-sun, and ..........

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#405085 Nov 26, 2012
If anyone is concerned about the prior posts, Gif does not mock handicapped people.

KayMarie
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#405086 Nov 26, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Robert,
I have to disagree with you....baptism is a command....
Do you think that repentance is a command???
As important as baptism is for the forgiveness of your sins making you pure and being buried with Christ, how can you then say it is not a command???
A person with true faith will want to follow the commands of Christ. There are many commands of Christ in the New Testament that we MUST follow and I am NOT talking about the 10 Commandments....
When it comes to the commands of Jesus/God, obedience to those commands are never optional as we MUST do God's will and NOT man's will.
So why do so few (if any) Christian men become eunuchs as Jesus suggested?
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#405087 Nov 26, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
I am so sorry LTM that you have a family member going through this....
I pray that the Lord will continue to be with your love one and that the Lord will continue to give him strength, understanding and love.....
God brings people into our lives for a reason whether it be family members or friends....
I agree Truth, years ago when my husband was not saved and still having a few to many, I asked God to help me what was I suppose to do, "God spoke to me in my heart Love him the way he is " When I let go and let god work in my husband with no interfernce from me my husband got saved Go figure LOL.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#405088 Nov 26, 2012
who="Truth"
Robert,
I have to disagree with you....baptism is a command....
Do you think that repentance is a command???
As important as baptism is for the forgiveness of your sins making you pure and being buried with Christ, how can you then say it is not a command???
A person with true faith will want to follow the commands of Christ. There are many commands of Christ in the New Testament that we MUST follow and I am NOT talking about the 10 Commandments....
When it comes to the commands of Jesus/God, obedience to those commands are never optional as we MUST do God's will and NOT man's will.

**********

Jesus submitted Himself to baptism, telling John that it was 'fulfilling all righteousness'. He said that, "Whosoever believes in Me, and is baptized shall be saved." I would not make a command of it, and condemn people with it, but simply consider it a matter of "following our Leader". He said, " I have given you an example..."

KayMarie
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#405089 Nov 26, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Truth good friend
I think I understand what you are saying. And I too compare baptism with circumcision.
The problem is that it is not a "command" as you state, but it is a sign.
I looked up the Genesis 17:10,11 scriptures in Hebrew....and while we state, or imply it as a command in our many versions in English, that word is not used in Hebrew. Rather the best way is to leave it just as a token/sign....For us the word token is rather kind of a symbolic action and a "trifle" in our language, so I think "sign" is a better translation. It is more weighty, but leaves.
But as for those who follow in faith of Abraham(Romans 4:11), this too is a sign....some have yet to become circumcised, while others have made it a sign, so too is baptism.
And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age." Mt 28:18-20

God was not happy with them not circumcizing. Baptism is not symbolic it is a command.

Josh 5:2-7

2 At that time the Lord said to Joshua,“Make for yourself flint knives and circumcise again the sons of Israel the second time.” 3 So Joshua made himself flint knives and circumcised the sons of Israel at [a]Gibeath-haaraloth. 4 This is the reason why Joshua circumcised them: all the people who came out of Egypt who were males, all the men of war, died in the wilderness along the way after they came out of Egypt. 5 For all the people who came out were circumcised, but all the people who were born in the wilderness along the way as they came out of Egypt had not been circumcised. 6 For the sons of Israel walked forty years in the wilderness, until all the nation, that is, the men of war who came out of Egypt,[b]perished because they did not listen to the voice of the Lord, to whom the Lord had sworn that He would not let them see the land which the Lord had sworn to their fathers to give us, a land flowing with milk and honey. 7 Their children whom He raised up in their place, Joshua [c]circumcised; for they were uncircumcised, because they had not circumcised them along the way.

1 Cor 7:14

14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#405090 Nov 26, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Preston mo one with a heart would make fun of a retard child.
Or a child with a disablity. I have a grandson who is 18 now and just started to live on his own.
There are challenges for him but he is doing it. the left side of his body is like dead weight but he manages just great.
He only has one 1/4 of his brain that is operating, he is a wonderful boy happy and always smiling. God has blessed us richly with this child.
He has a Husky dog, and he gets up at 5:30 every morning and takes that dog for a walk, before he catches his school bus to a program were he is learning life skills.
I am sorry about your lose Preston, I have never lost a child to death, so to say I know how you feel won't be true.
But I have lost most of my family to alcohol, I have had to call police on my daughter and son 2-3 times one tried to beat me up the other my husband. Its heart breaking Preston.
We all have issues and things that have happened in our life that has formed our personality Preston.
I have been a street Mom to I don't know how many kids, I still get phone calls from many of them who were abused and just thrown out of the house. One man just came back He is in his 50's now its funny to see him, he was all pimples and a long neck last time I saw him LOL.
I gave him a little Bible when he left my house, he still had it and it was well used.
God doesn't want us fighting and judging each other Preston, no father wants to see his childing fighting among their children.
Everyone has a story to tell Preston life lessons that God has allowed in our lifes to use us to help others.
So lets prove to the nonbelievers that Born again Christians are not hateful mean people, but God fearing lovely people who are tolerate of others even if they are not were the other is Spirituality. Our journey isn't over yet Preston, God's plan for our life is unfolding at His speed not anyone elses.
WE ARE HIS WORKERMANSHIP. SOME OF US ARE PETERS AND PAULS, WHY WE ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE LIKE THEM WE ARE TO STRIVE TO BE LIKE JESUS.
SOME OF US MAY HAVE ALONG WAY TO GO, BUT BY THE GRACE OF GOD WE WILL GET THERE.
*********
When Joseph's brothers feared that he would retaliate after their father died, Joseph said, "You meant it for evil, BUT GOD USED IT FOR GOOD."
If we trust God's mercy, He will 'work all things together for our good'. He doesn't send evil...but when it comes, He knows how to get us 'home'.
KayMarie
Amen KM.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#405091 Nov 26, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
If we trust God's mercy, He will 'work all things together for our good'. He doesn't send evil...but when it comes, He knows how to get us 'home'.
KayMarie
I guess "He" chose not to help this family like you say "He" does.

You are confused on what you think you know the mind of "God".

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/msnbc-arti...

You are misleading again.

Please stop.

Where is "God's home"?

Have you been there? How do you know it exists? How can you promote something that you have no first-hand knowledge of?

Are you a prophet?

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