Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#404939 Nov 26, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
marge good friend
Maybe its hard to prove, to the unbeliever, but it is scriptural.
Remember faith is a sign of righteousness(faith is one of the virtues) to Abraham before he was circumcised, and then became circumcised....Romans 4:11
The effects and effectiveness are by God's Grace and man's acceptance of that Grace.
Baptism is a seal as is circumcision....
Genesis 17:11

11 You are to undergo circumcision, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you.

Circumcision was a command of God in the covenant that God made with Abraham in the Old Testament.

Could not be a descendant of Abraham without circumcision, and no one else was included in the promises that God made to Abraham.

All uncircumcised people were CUT OFF from being in Abraham's family.

Now, think about it.....aren't we CUT OFF from being in the body of Christ (the body of believers)(the church) if we ARE NOT baptized??????????

Circumcision was imposed on the Nation of Israel by the Law of Moses.

Baptism is imposed on what???

All nations....

Matthew 25:32

32 *All the nations* will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

Matthew 28:19

19 Therefore go and make disciples *of all nations,* baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#404940 Nov 26, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
marge good friend
Maybe its hard to prove, to the unbeliever, but it is scriptural.
Remember faith is a sign of righteousness(faith is one of the virtues) to Abraham before he was circumcised, and then became circumcised....Romans 4:11
The effects and effectiveness are by God's Grace and man's acceptance of that Grace.
Baptism is a seal as is circumcision....
See this scripture:

Colossians 2:11

11 In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands (PHYSICAL.) Your whole self ruled by the flesh (sinful state of human beings) was put off when you were circumcised by Christ (SPIRITUAL,)
truth

Perth, Australia

#404941 Nov 26, 2012
On tiny chip you have everything..could you imagine that..oh

This planet look as tiny marble!
truth

Perth, Australia

#404942 Nov 26, 2012
People can be very nice but still let you down..its mean not deference.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#404943 Nov 26, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, Marge,
Acts 1:8
8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
***You (APOSTLES) will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you.....
Do we receive this POWER today when we are baptized???
NO!!!!!!!!!!
***You (APOSTLES) will be my witnesses in Jerusalem....etc...
Do we need to be Jesus' witnesses today???
NO!!!!!!!!!!
What? We don't receive the Holy Spirit when we are baptized? Goodness Truth, you can't dictate how Christ dispenses His Spirit. Millions claim they DID receive the Holy Spirit when baptized.
Nuff said.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404944 Nov 26, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I dont usually respond like this but hwre goes.
SHUT YOUR FILTHY MOUTH.
LOOK AT THE POSTS. HE IS ATTACKING ME.
nope my kids are not bullies but they dont take crap off of imbiciles like you.
justin was a student leader his senior year. you dont get that respect by being a bully. when he met jesse jackson this spring, jessie was Very impressed with him and told him some day, he will be a leader.
you dont know me, you judge me because of mental patients like orville, and your own mental deficiencies.
look at karen rebuking Orville, while you keep silent
when jess said what she did to richard, she didnt like him putting her father down
Preston says......when my son met jesse jackson this spring, jessie was Very impressed with him and told him some day, he will be a leader.

Michael says......Jesse Jackson's son Jesse Jr. resigned his senate seat, and is up on Federal charges and will probably be sent to prison.

http://news.yahoo.com/trouble-not-over-jesse-...

Seems anyone with the last name JACKSON stirs up controversy.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404945 Nov 26, 2012
jethro8 wrote:
need help,been trying to find an answer to a question,did any of the 12 apostles ever teach/preach in a church? no church websites allowed,only history books.i can't find a definitive answer.
Not only did 12 apostles never preach in a church, the leader Jesus never set foot inside a catholic church, and never did he ever rest or worship on a Sunday.

Catholics claim Jesus gave Peter the keys to the church. They had keys back then? Doors hadn't yet been invented. All they had were hanging beads on strings between entrance ways (lol)

Christianity squeezed all the Jew out of Jesus and made him their own.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404946 Nov 26, 2012
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
Michael,
I have such wonderful memories of Christmas with my children.
On Christmas eve,I would read the Christmas story from the Bible to them.
We would sing Christmas hymns in the room where the Christmas tree was standing all lit up with white lights.
Candles in the windows also,representing that Jesus is the light of the world.
And a white dove on top of the tree.
I still use that white dove,that represents the Holy Spirit.
Before they went to bed,I would read them The Night Before Christmas.
I alway's made sure they knew the real meaning of Christmas.
I have alway's had a nativity scene,usually I place it under the tree,
because it is Christ that is the gift that God gave to us out of His love for us.
Whether or not there were animals there, makes no difference.
Our focus should be on Christ only.
I am not Catholic Micheal.Christ died for us all.
As long as we are in the flesh,we are going to make mistakes.
We are going to sin.
That's why I believe it's a repentant way.
We need to focus on our Lord, instead of what others say and do.
Though you are still searching,He does love you and wants you to come to him.
I promise you this,if you have faith,believe and accept Him into your heart,you will never regret it.
Please ponder on this.It's so important to your soul.
None of us has a promise of tomorrow.
I want to see you in Heaven.
Full of Love says to Michael.........

I want to see you in Heaven.

Michael says......that is very touching.

I have my bags packed and ready to go! Now just one question, where is heaven and how do we transport there???(lol)

On a serious note our family too like most celebrated the christmas season much like yours accept we had an angel or star at the top of the tree. It is definetly a time and a sign of "lets slow down and reflect how fortunate we are".

Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404947 Nov 26, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Lame brain, twisted, backwoods hillbilly.
The article is referring to man using "GOD" to justify killing each other.
Your dummer than a fried hamburger.
Orville says........to Preston.

Lame brain, twisted, backwoods hillbilly, dummer than a fried hamburger.

Michael says. Never have these words ever been put in this order or used in such a phrase.

ps I love hamburgers......I will eat them fried or grilled.

Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404948 Nov 26, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>So now you believe in GOD? You are like the wind, Michael. You blow every direction. Would you care to tell us what you REALLY believe?
I said "IF" God is above.

I have always stated I do not believe in the trinity. I can't get my mind around 3 distinct persons in one God and each person performing particular functions, and then they all return with two sitting on the side of the one in the middle as they are taught. We picture them as humans but in reality to those that believe they are suppose to be spirits yet we have no idea what a real spirit is suppose to look like. I have also stated I tend more towards being agnostic not an atheist. I do not adhere to any group.

I am an individual who personally determines using my FREE WILL what I believe to be fact or fiction.

Is there a God? I don't know and in reality neither do you. Do we hope there is a God or spirit etc. who is fair and will judge everyone for their good deeds and faults. Certainly.

To me it doesn't matter what any religion teaches. If it doesn't make common sense to me than I abstain from it.

I was raised a catholic and taught ONLY catholicism. Is that the right way to believe in something because your parents want you to become .......just like them? I understand why parents teach their children their belief, mostly because they are ignorant and fearful of what others believe, because the religious leaders of your church teach you that.

.......not meant to offend.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#404949 Nov 26, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
What? We don't receive the Holy Spirit when we are baptized? Goodness Truth, you can't dictate how Christ dispenses His Spirit. Millions claim they DID receive the Holy Spirit when baptized.
Nuff said.
Clay,

You are misunderstanding me...

Two different baptism.....

Yes, we do receive the Holy Spirit....

Acts 2:38

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#404950 Nov 26, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>27Nov12.....
.....Vell, you can get 'knocked off' as well as 'knocked up' and 'knocked down'.
Ps:....Consider yourself as 'knockedUP' while being considred to be 'knocked off'....for being a schidt-for-brains.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
O well.... what more can be expect from a real Roman Catholic..

examples such as you speak volumes...

I need not say any thing....You have displayed your own heart, before us all here.

One described in the Old testament

yielding fruit.
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Jer 17:10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.

JESUS SAID

Mat_5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Mat_12:34 O generation of vipers,

how can ye, being evil,

speak good things?

for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#404951 Nov 26, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Truth good friend
But Paul had faith in the Law, prior to faith in Christ.
Romans 4:11
Circumcision is a sign of righteousness, both before, and after for Abraham, and the Law of Moses.
Since we are not under the Laws of Moses, we can be circumcised to the faith of Abraham, but baptism is a new sign.( I am speaking of both water and Spirit.) in which we are sealed.
Thus as adults and children(infants) were circumcised under Abraham and the Law of Moses, now adults and children(infants) are baptised in the Law of Grace.
Deuteronomy 10:16

16 Circumcise your hearts, therefore, and do not be stiff-necked any longer.

Male descendents who entered into the covenant had to carry that reminder of the covenant in their own flesh.

Removal of sin...

Romans 2:29

29 No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#404952 Nov 26, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Water baptism & circumcision are not seals as I understand Scripture. These are mans public declarations. A distinction is made however in the following Scriptures;
However, a Holy seal, is given from Holy God and only by Holy God can they be given.
Matt. 3...
11I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.
Ephesians 1:
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Romans 4:11

11 [[[[[And he received circumcision as a sign,]]]]]~~~~a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised.~~~~~ So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#404953 Nov 26, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
I said "IF" God is above.
I have always stated I do not believe in the trinity. I can't get my mind around 3 distinct persons in one God and each person performing particular functions, and then they all return with two sitting on the side of the one in the middle as they are taught. We picture them as humans but in reality to those that believe they are suppose to be spirits yet we have no idea what a real spirit is suppose to look like. I have also stated I tend more towards being agnostic not an atheist. I do not adhere to any group.
I am an individual who personally determines using my FREE WILL what I believe to be fact or fiction.
Is there a God? I don't know and in reality neither do you. Do we hope there is a God or spirit etc. who is fair and will judge everyone for their good deeds and faults. Certainly.
To me it doesn't matter what any religion teaches. If it doesn't make common sense to me than I abstain from it.
I was raised a catholic and taught ONLY catholicism. Is that the right way to believe in something because your parents want you to become .......just like them? I understand why parents teach their children their belief, mostly because they are ignorant and fearful of what others believe, because the religious leaders of your church teach you that.
.......not meant to offend.
SO YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN A TRIUNE GOD..

You also are a trinity...made in the likeness of God.

1. You are a spirit

2. You live in a body. which is your spirits residence

3. You possess a soul..Your psyche

While you exist as one..(as observed) before the world...

When you die your body decays and goes back to the dirt it was

originally created of.

.[IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN].

Your spirit (pneuma) and soul (the PSYCHE reason OF THE HEART ...of man) ascends to God., who made it.

your body decays/turns back... to dust

and will be reunited with your soul and spirit

at the coming of Christ and will be changed like unto to a glorious

body of like that one of Christ after his resurrection.Christ.

1Jn 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

___

1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#404954 Nov 26, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>SAY WHAT??? I come to Preston's aid. It would be a cold day.....Emailing Preston??? What in the world are you talking about?
lol.....
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#404955 Nov 26, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
My miscue. Should of been FOL e mailed Preston.
Orville...stop the nonsense....
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404956 Nov 26, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>27Nov12.....
......There have been some awful members of the Catholic Church over its 2000 year old history and for BobLoblah the Borgias come to mind...with even the Borgia pope being a hypocrite.
Those that 'took part' in the Spanish Inquisition should have been shot with a ball of their own schidt and then 'drawn and quartered'.
Ps:....Meanwhile,'Most' of the hundreds of thousands of Popes, Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, Monks, Brothers, Nuns, and dedicated lay-people over the years have been kind, honest, compassionate, endearing, dependable and in so making up the Catholic Church that is so much involved in helping out around the WholeWideWorld.
For one to 'blame' the LifeTime of the Holy Roman Catholic Church on a handful of the miserable few, only confirms that you are a schidt-for-brains.....and probably NOT even a Catholic to begin with.
A REAL Catholic has a special gift. Its called 'Faith'.
Go Figure.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
Mr Loblaws......says.

For one to 'blame' the LifeTime of the Holy Roman Catholic Church on a handful of the miserable few.

May I remind you that for every clergy member who sexually buggered a young child were dozens of clergy who knew damn well what was going on and said NOTHING! Reported nothing.

Now times that by the huge number of credable worldwide cases for the past 17 centuries and you will quickly learn "HANDFUL" as you describe isn't even close.

http://www.richardsipe.com/patrick_wall/execu...

Click on DOCUMENTS and CANON LAWS from this webstie and you will quickly learn that the church over 1700 years had attempted (in house only) to try and stem this problem of clergy abuse with little success.

Why would God attach his name to an organization that has had a hidden perverted sub-culture for centuries.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#404957 Nov 26, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Lame brain, twisted, backwoods hillbilly.
The article is referring to man using "GOD" to justify killing each other.
Your dummer than a fried hamburger.
Does name calling solve anything???
Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#404958 Nov 26, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
I said "IF" God is above.
I have always stated I do not believe in the trinity. I can't get my mind around 3 distinct persons in one God and each person performing particular functions, and then they all return with two sitting on the side of the one in the middle as they are taught. We picture them as humans but in reality to those that believe they are suppose to be spirits yet we have no idea what a real spirit is suppose to look like. I have also stated I tend more towards being agnostic not an atheist. I do not adhere to any group.
I am an individual who personally determines using my FREE WILL what I believe to be fact or fiction.
Is there a God? I don't know and in reality neither do you. Do we hope there is a God or spirit etc. who is fair and will judge everyone for their good deeds and faults. Certainly.
To me it doesn't matter what any religion teaches. If it doesn't make common sense to me than I abstain from it.
I was raised a catholic and taught ONLY catholicism. Is that the right way to believe in something because your parents want you to become .......just like them? I understand why parents teach their children their belief, mostly because they are ignorant and fearful of what others believe, because the religious leaders of your church teach you that.
.......not meant to offend.
Only 3 in 1 God?

No, Revelation tells us that God has 7 spirits.

No one can explain the other 4, but we've seen many guesses. The RCC leaves this description out of its Mass Bible reading cycles. It's like the other 4 spirits are being covered up.

Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and the Great Pumpkin are the other 4 spirits mentioned in Revelation IMHO.

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