Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#404863 Nov 25, 2012
Michael wrote:
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Eastern catholic orthodox clergy can marry. A protestant clergy with a wife who quits his church and becomes a catholic priest can have a wife and 7 kids if he wants to.
39 popes throughout history were married.
http://www.blurtit.com/q146414.html
Too bad for the regular roman catholic clergy. No wife no sex for you!
Too bad too for the nuns.
The roman catholic church is all about CONTROL. The old codgers in the vatican would NEVER allow a woman to be equal to them.
CONTROL.....
What blows my ind is that they have been told that both opposite positions are biblical and they buy it? Anybody home?
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#404864 Nov 25, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Eastern catholic orthodox clergy can marry. A protestant clergy with a wife who quits his church and becomes a catholic priest can have a wife and 7 kids if he wants to.
39 popes throughout history were married.
http://www.blurtit.com/q146414.html
Too bad for the regular roman catholic clergy. No wife no sex for you!
Too bad too for the nuns.
The roman catholic church is all about CONTROL. The old codgers in the vatican would NEVER allow a woman to be equal to them.
CONTROL.....
So,Michael, it is very simple. The bible says let 'em mary.........The bible says DON'T let'em marry. What could be simpler?
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#404865 Nov 25, 2012
Dust Storm wrote:
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But of course the stay at home sinless families that dont associate with anyone who each proclaim their individual gospels but all agree on everything pope Marge declares in Neverland! lol
So what different gospels doyou see presented D.S.?
preston

Waverly, OH

#404866 Nov 25, 2012
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
closet homo???
Not nice.
lol, that is better than he saying that he is praying that God kills me.

BTW, are you out yet?

got another the other day
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#404867 Nov 25, 2012
Fr Robert Dye wrote:
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Boy, pretty snide, don't you think.
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A "Rite of Christian Initiation" is what is done to prepare someone for becoming Christian.
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In the primitive Church, the was on occasion concern about baptizing those not truly readyto live the faith, as they would often backslide, especially in the conversion of idolators.
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A long period of instruction was the early Church solution ... a 40 day retreat, with prayer, fasting, and instruction, culminating in baptism, confirmation (an anointing with oil as a "sealing of baptism") and Holy Communion, all on the vigil of the "anniversary" of the Lord's Resurrection).
The season of Lent is the legacy of this practice. We still baptize, confirm, and admit to Holy Communion converts on this night (ideally, concluding just as the sun is rising, so the converts come from darkness of sin "into the Light" of Christ.
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Before someone gets their nose outta joint, people who "convert" from another Christian faith are NOT, strictly speaking, "converts," although it is common (through laziness) to call them by that name.
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The "Rites of Christian Initiation" are thus baptism, confirmation, and Eucharist.
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For other Christiam gropus, they would probably be called (water) baptism, baptism of the Holy Spirit, and the Lord's Supper.
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And answering your other post, I'm gonna have to go find it. I want to be especially careful how I answer.
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Rob
Let me help you out. You will find it on Page 19380 in post #402221
preston

Waverly, OH

#404868 Nov 25, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever. So Preston you were in the military. Vietnam you state. What day and year,did you enlist? What was your job that caused you to be shot as you claim? These are easy and certainly remembered events.
yes, they are, but one thing that you need to take into consideration.
NONE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME IN MY LIFE IS ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS.
AND IF YOU WERE A PROPHET, THEN YOU WOULD KNOW.LOL
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#404869 Nov 25, 2012
MICHAEL wrote:
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You said you're parents practice one of the protestant beliefs. Are you're parents entrenched in heresy and less truth?
When Protestants "rejected the FULLNESS OF THE TRUTH" beginning at the 16th century Reformation, the % of heresy began to become greater and greater and greater with each new Protestant Reformer and the % of Truth become less and less.
You are the prime example of someone filled with hatred. Much like many elements within the bible......very sad!
You Michael, are a "perfect example" of a Democratic Obama left-wing liberal. For anyone to disagree with them is to "hate". For anyone, to vote against Obama, is to hate blacks. For anyone to disagree with homosexuals means to hate Gays.
Whenever ANYONE opposes" the Democratic Liberals, in ANY WAY, the response from them is to ALWAYS play the "hate card"!.... No wonder you left the Christian faith, the Catholic Church and the TRUTH of Salvation in Jesus Christ!! You are "reaping what you have sown"!

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#404870 Nov 25, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>lol, that is better than he saying that he is praying that God kills me.
BTW, are you out yet?
got another the other day
You've got mail.
preston

Waverly, OH

#404872 Nov 25, 2012
here you Orvalle.

another of my nicks and with another town that I have never heard of nor know where it is.

jonah
Marengo, OH

and no, I am not going to ell you where the forum was that this post was on.lol

but shoot, no one can keep a secret from an great prophet like you.lol

how come God could and did tell me about mr fraud stealing material from his church magazines and you dont hear from him?

are you shuckin and jivin us?
preston

Waverly, OH

#404873 Nov 25, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You Michael, are a "perfect example" of a Democratic
come on, HOJO.

the democratic party wants nothing to do with this retard from canada whose impaired functioning has lead him to be deficit in his behavior and he tries to mislead people with his poor excuse of humor.

4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#404874 Nov 25, 2012
Fr Robert Dye wrote:
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I don't think there is any question that the Christ commanded water baptism as a condition of salvation, and all who are capable of hearing that and understanding it are bound by it.
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Rob
I think there is a very real question. Are there 'conditions' tied to a 'free gift'? Are there conditions to attaining a RELATIONSHIP with Christ?
All forgivness. All power. All payment for our sins is in Christ
Himself. It is all about our 'relationship' with Him..........
What can water do? Can it wash away sins? Can it bring about a relationship? Can it in any way add to the 'finished work' of our atonement that Jesus 'paid in full' on the cross?
In other words....Is Jesus sufficient?
preston

Waverly, OH

#404875 Nov 25, 2012
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
You've got mail.
you have two, check the second one, it is very important.
Clay

Grand Forks, ND

#404876 Nov 25, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Let me help you out. You will find it on Page 19380 in post #402221
Its important to understand, 4gvn.. No Catholic would ever think we'd suddenly shine the light on ya! Lol
You're convinced. Period. Therefore, anything anyone has to say to alter your views will be ignored.. By YOU!
Its just the way it is. Eventually you'll lay in bed and wonder about truth. We all do. So what iS truth?
Prove the Catholic Church wrong and I will join your sect. its as simple as that ...
Orville

Portland, OR

#404877 Nov 25, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>here is what dust Storm says about your sister in satan marge.
Dust Storm
Saint Paul, MN

never mind Orville, you can be captain hooks religious cleric and advisor


I don't care what a Roman, nor you, a Roman, state about Marge. As they are lies.

It's ironic your mentioned post has eerily themed words as yours Preston.

Because back in the day you posted from St. Paul than posted from Ohio in the following post. How is this possible?

It is only possible when you and Dust Storm have pre-arranged to post certain remarks. Thats how. The Above post, again proves this.

Further, back in 2010, Your post carried your name. Only the I.P. from St. Paul Minn. And a "United States I.P.( from Lay Apostle),. Both are staunch Roman Catholics.
Yet again in a short time span your name "suddenly" comes back as an Ohio post.

I conclude your working together. Two-Three Romans collaborating.

You will try to say "TOPIX" did it. But we all know better.

here are some of the post:

JOnah from Rockford Ill.:

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TV910R5...


Jonah from Ohio April 2, 2010, Post number 180542:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TV910R5...

This post is real important. Preston claims he was in the Military. But the guy who blew the whistle on the sexual abuse at Good Manor was a resident. FRED MOORE. Thus had a disability severe enough to be institutionalized. He could not ever get admitted into the military. Especially having the States records on facts .

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TV910R5...



4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#404879 Nov 25, 2012
Fr Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
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Jesus is the One in Charge. If He chooses to make exceotions to His own rule, who are we to question that.
.We know the rule, and should be following it.
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Infants cannot know the rule, and I seriously doubt that God would hold them to it.(Might He hold their parents to it? it's possible ...)
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Rob
Have you really thought of what you are saying,implies? Jesus can make 'exceptions' as to the 'requirement' for salvation and everlasting life?
Jesus is the 'Righteous Judge' of all humanity. Do you believe that a 'Righteous Judge' can use two different scales, or standards. Can a 'R.J.' allow one into heaven unbaptized and yet condemn another to hell for the same reason. Not and be a 'Righteous Judge'.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#404880 Nov 25, 2012
Operation Northwoods wrote:
Those who believe that they are "saved" by faith, alone are so full of shit.
Again, I say... when Christ spoke to the woman at the well, He said.... "GO AN SIN NO MORE!" Those who foolishly believe that you are "saved" by faith, believe that He said...."Hey, Kiddo, we all make mistakes. Hell, I even made a mistake by creating Lobbyists in Washington. So, lookie here. In a little while, I am going to die for your sins. So, you go along now, ply your trade, sleep with men for money, it is okie doakie with Me because that is what I came to do. Die so all of you can sin your asses off, shit on your parents, lie about your neighbors, cheat your customers and those who work for you out of money you owe them in wages, screw your brains out, double points if you screw your neighbors spouse, gossip and lie your ass off all you want. All you have do do, is every once in awhile, say... "I believe in Jesus", and all will be just fine with Me. Now, scoop along now, you little scamp... and don't get any crabs, cause they are hell to get rid of."
Nope, don't think Jesus said that. He said... "GO AND SIN NO MORE....!"
Was LUKE in the OLD TESTAMENT? No, you ignorant ass dip shits.... LUKE wrote the BOOK OF ACTS...
In the Book of Acts... Christ says...
"Be penitent, therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out. "
Why, if you dummies believe, that faith is all you need, why would Jesus say that you need to REPENT for your sins?
Hebrews 10:26
For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
John 3:4
Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.
Why would John say through Christ...."Sin is Lawlessness", if all you dummies believe that there is no longer a "law."
Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
There is that word, REPENTANCE again, damn, some of you are screwed.
John 5:14
Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him,“See, you are well! Sin no more, that nothing worse may happen to you.”
Wow, that Jesus was on a SIN NO MORE kick... how could HE say that when y'all believe that you are saved by faith alone?
Stop sinning, you dumb asses, and start living a life that emulates the teachings of Jesus Christ, or, stop calling yourselves Christians.
No one who is a child of God believes that it's ok to sin.

You need to clean that nasty mouth if you want people to take you seriously.

We are to strive to be Christlike.
No man is without sin,that's why it's a repentant way.

Your nasty words are not what Christ wants us to use to spread His message.
Clay

Grand Forks, ND

#404881 Nov 25, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>I think there is a very real question. Are there 'conditions' tied to a 'free gift'? Are there conditions to attaining a RELATIONSHIP with Christ?
All forgivness. All power. All payment for our sins is in Christ
Himself. It is all about our 'relationship' with Him..........
What can water do? Can it wash away sins? Can it bring about a relationship? Can it in any way add to the 'finished work' of our atonement that Jesus 'paid in full' on the cross?
In other words....Is Jesus sufficient?
It should be easy to prove the Catholic Church wrong. But you can't.
UNLESS. you manipulate scripture to mean opposite of what first Christians understood .
Its easy, your fore fathers from the Revolution did it to brainwash ya. So you carry the torch now to spew anti catholicism.
State your evidence or get out of here.
Orville

Portland, OR

#404882 Nov 25, 2012
preston wrote:
here you Orvalle.
another of my nicks and with another town that I have never heard of nor know where it is.
jonah
Marengo, OH
and no, I am not going to ell you where the forum was that this post was on.lol
but shoot, no one can keep a secret from an great prophet like you.lol
how come God could and did tell me about mr fraud stealing material from his church magazines and you dont hear from him?
are you shuckin and jivin us?

Holy God reveals what HE wants revealed. Currently you are being revealed:


your church along with any church is judged by its leaders. you cant change that.and if your leaders arent going to follow Christ, they certainly arent going to tell you how to follow Him, since that convicts them as being sinners.

and just look at this forum, there is NOT ONE catholic THAT ISNT AS DEVIOUS AS THEY COME. THEY CANT TELL THE TRUTH FOR LYING, AND WHEN THEY ARE SHOWN THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS, THEY STILL CONTINUE TO WALK IN DARKENESS.

look at lag. 4bdn made a post about a evil pope(so evil even you catholics didnt like nor want him), he was shown that he was wrong yet he continued as if he was right.

and lady, your leaders are filthy!!! AND i CAN BACK UP WHAT i SAY, SO IT AINT BEARING FALSE WITNESS.

I was the person that blew the whistle on the good shepherd manor clergy who killed joey.


http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TV910R5...


making you FRED MOORE.


http://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/rod/docs/pdf...


Additional problems soon followed at GSM. By late August 1984, Salem had
learned that a resident of GSM, Fred Moore, had made allegations of being sexually
abused by The Brothers.(Plaintiff’s Exhibit 15.) In an August 21, 1984, letter to Salem,
Moore named four brothers and stated that they “use me for a girl.*** I am sick and tired
of being pushed around.” The letter also states:“I have never told this to anyone before. I
never had the opportunity, because I didn’t know I had any rights until you told me.”

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#404883 Nov 25, 2012
Operation Northwoods wrote:
Those who believe that they are "saved" by faith, alone are so full of shit.
Again, I say... when Christ spoke to the woman at the well, He said.... "GO AN SIN NO MORE!" Those who foolishly believe that you are "saved" by faith, believe that He said...."Hey, Kiddo, we all make mistakes. Hell, I even made a mistake by creating Lobbyists in Washington. So, lookie here. In a little while, I am going to die for your sins. So, you go along now, ply your trade, sleep with men for money, it is okie doakie with Me because that is what I came to do. Die so all of you can sin your asses off, shit on your parents, lie about your neighbors, cheat your customers and those who work for you out of money you owe them in wages, screw your brains out, double points if you screw your neighbors spouse, gossip and lie your ass off all you want. All you have do do, is every once in awhile, say... "I believe in Jesus", and all will be just fine with Me. Now, scoop along now, you little scamp... and don't get any crabs, cause they are hell to get rid of."
Nope, don't think Jesus said that. He said... "GO AND SIN NO MORE....!"
Was LUKE in the OLD TESTAMENT? No, you ignorant ass dip shits.... LUKE wrote the BOOK OF ACTS...
In the Book of Acts... Christ says...
"Be penitent, therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out. "
Why, if you dummies believe, that faith is all you need, why would Jesus say that you need to REPENT for your sins?
Hebrews 10:26
For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
John 3:4
Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.
Why would John say through Christ...."Sin is Lawlessness", if all you dummies believe that there is no longer a "law."
Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
There is that word, REPENTANCE again, damn, some of you are screwed.
John 5:14
Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him,“See, you are well! Sin no more, that nothing worse may happen to you.”
Wow, that Jesus was on a SIN NO MORE kick... how could HE say that when y'all believe that you are saved by faith alone?
Stop sinning, you dumb asses, and start living a life that emulates the teachings of Jesus Christ, or, stop calling yourselves Christians.
YOU WROTE

"Those who believe that they are "saved" by faith, alone are so full of shit."

WOW
ONE FROM THE "ONE TRUE APOSTOLIC ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH" HAS JUST GIVEN A EYE OPENING REVELATION OF WHAT CHRISTIANITY IS ALL ABOUT..TO HIM/HER

AM I RIGHT ..RIGHT..CLAY AND HOJP?
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#404884 Nov 25, 2012
Fr Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
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Jesus is the One in Charge. If He chooses to make exceotions to His own rule, who are we to question that.
.We know the rule, and should be following it.
.
Rob
Can the 'Righteous Judge' change the rules He extablished? Can a R.J. say to one who was not baptized "enter in to your salvation and yet cast another into eternal darkness for the SAME OFFENSE? Not the God I know. There is only one requirement for salvation and that is to recieve JESUS as our Saviour. ALL ELSE is done not to gain salvation and the new birth, but because the new birth has occured.

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