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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#404829 Nov 25, 2012
Michael wrote:
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A monk devised the calendar back in the 6th century. Somehow he made some miscalculations.
READ BELOW.....IMPORTANT.
Its been known for centuries that there was conflict in the gospel of Matthew and Luke as ot the birth of Jesus.
Matthew claims that the birth of Jesus occurred during the reign of Herod the Great of Judea, whom we know died in 4 B.C.
Luke also tells us that Jesus' birth happened during Herod's reign. Luke even adds what appears to be detailed and historical evidence of the period. He writes that Jesus was born during a census or registration of the populace ordered by emperor Augustus at the time that Quirinius (Cyrenius) was Roman governor of Syria (Luke 2:1-3). In reality, this has to be a fabrication because Quirinius was not governor of Syria and Judea during Herod's kingship. Direct Roman rule over the province of Judea, where Bethlehem was located, was not established until 6 A.D. In other words, ten years separated the rule of Quirinius from Herod.
If the census did take place, it was in the year 6 CE, long after Herod's death. Therefore, Matthew's stories of the Wise Men's visit to Herod and the Christchild, and Herod's massacre of the innocents which caused the holy family to flee to Egypt, are all historically impossible. Moreover, it should be noted that Luke also got his facts wrong about the census of Augustus. Such an imperial census would only apply to Roman citizens of the empire, not to Joseph, a Galilean who was not under direct Roman rule.
...something is terribly wrong!
Several Herods during this time period i would think it was his son Herod Archelaus ethnarch of Judea, Samaria, and Idumea (biblical Edom) from 4 BCE to 6 CE thay is being referred to.

The Romans made Herod's son Herod Archelaus ethnarch of Judea, Samaria, and Idumea (biblical Edom) from 4 BCE to 6 CE, referred to as the tetrarchy of Judea. Archelaus was judged incompetent by the Roman emperor Augustus who then combined Samaria, Judea proper and Idumea into Iudaea province[8] under rule of a prefect until 41. Herod's other son Herod Antipas was tetrarch of Galilee from 4 BCE – 39 CE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_the_Great
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404830 Nov 25, 2012
Dust Storm wrote:
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Yeah Mikey I know you are an anarchist. You dont follow any rules. You should let the police know and stop paying taxes or do you live in fear? lol Y
You submit to the will of an external authority. blah blah blah. I dont submit to the will of Mikey and the world according to Mikey.
I will be sure to let myself know I am afraid because you said so.
I was addressing your impotent point Dr. Deflecto. A priest does not make a vow before God because they have to. They chose it. Furthermore a Catholic has a right to discuss a discipline and how it may benefit the church to change it. So your ridiculous assertions that those who question it somehow is beyond reproach is amusing at best and only serves to fill your crowded tray of fodder. There are proper ways to do things. You keep saying women priests. There are no women priests.
The Apostles did have some boundaries and yes they had their Mikeys to deal with just like Moses did. You must have been self employed or did you live in fear of rules? LOL
DustStorm says.....Yeah Mikey I know you are an anarchist. You dont follow any rules. You should let the police know and stop paying taxes or do you live in fear? lol

Michael says....I have always stated, I follow the laws of the land, I have never done illegal drugs, never abused alcohol such as one of the catholic posters keeps reminding us of his problem, I pay all my taxes, credit cards, never been in jail, I help my neighbors or anyone who needs help.........but according to you I haven't done enough.

preston

Waverly, OH

#404831 Nov 25, 2012
read this article, with a little bit of understanding.

it is a humorous yet still a serious article.

God Angrily Clarifies 'Don't Kill' Rule
September 26, 2001 | ISSUE 37•34 | More News

God.
"Look, I don't know, maybe I haven't made myself completely clear, so for the record, here it is again," said the Lord, His divine face betraying visible emotion during a press conference near the site of the fallen Twin Towers. "Somehow, people keep coming up with the idea that I want them to kill their neighbor. Well, I don't. And to be honest, I'm really getting sick and tired of it. Get it straight. Not only do I not want anybody to kill anyone, but I specifically commanded you not to, in really simple terms that anybody ought to be able to understand."

Worshipped by Christians, Jews, and Muslims alike, God said His name has been invoked countless times over the centuries as a reason to kill in what He called "an unending cycle of violence."

"{{I don't care how holy(SEE THIS MR FALSE PROPHET AND HIS SISTER MARGE) somebody claims to be," God said. "If a person tells you it's My will that they kill someone, they're wrong. Got it? I don't care what religion you are, or who you think your enemy is, here it is one more time: No killing, in My name or anyone else's, ever again."

http://www.theonion.com/articles/god-angrily-...

it is satire, so if you are to ignorant to know what satire is, DONT READ IT, IT WILL JUST GO OVER YOUR HEAD

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#404832 Nov 25, 2012
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
If infant baptism or any water-baptism had infused virtues, not Scriptual, not proven.
marge good friend

Maybe its hard to prove, to the unbeliever, but it is scriptural.

Remember faith is a sign of righteousness(faith is one of the virtues) to Abraham before he was circumcised, and then became circumcised....Romans 4:11

The effects and effectiveness are by God's Grace and man's acceptance of that Grace.

Baptism is a seal as is circumcision....

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#404833 Nov 25, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Whats was gong on Saturday evening about 4 o'clock I seen a whole lotta mackrel snappers congregated around the RCC here.
7th day....

I don't know. Today is a Solemnity of Christ the King, definitely a day to celebrate the Kingship of Christ....
Orville

Portland, OR

#404834 Nov 25, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>marge, you havent changed which is why I have said this forum has declined in intelligence since.
you speak about the "true church" yet you call Orville who as called me a demon and prayed that God would kill me. a "brother".
orville is certainly not a Christian, tho you qualify as his brother. he is evil and you are stupid.
PRAYER
and what God is listening for
praying and thinking
bother the Father
God listens to prayers
Praying for enemies
for personal prayer requests
Prayer pdf document download
(more at end)
Praying Amiss:
puppeteering
the laundry list mentality
labeling and name-calling
comparing
using God to your advantage
getting God to back your plan
SORRY. ORVILLE BUT GOD ISNT GOING TO ANSWE THISPAYE, ALL IT DOES IS SHOW THAT YOU BELONG TO SATAN AND ANY PERSON WHO CALLS YOU A BROTHER IN CHRIST IS AS GUILTY AS YOU ARE AND WILL BE JUDGED ACCORDINGLY. OSAS WILL NOT HELP YOU EITHER .
MARGE.


Wiley-Preston steals again."Prayer" stolen from:
http://www.spirithome.com/prayersp.html

I still petition Holy God to remove you from this earth. Still. Sometimes daily. You refer to this as "Kill" - "death". To you it probably is . You will not partake in the second death. And you know this.
Then you try to bring Marge into your sinister and dark agenda by once again hurdling very personal insults at her. Again.

I do not and will not ever see you as a anything but what you are. A Roman troll. They are not my brother.

preston

Waverly, OH

#404835 Nov 25, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Truth good friend
On the surface, the first thing is that Paul was already a pretty old guy, and a Jew, before he repented and became a Christian, not an infant or a child.
Robert, where did you come up with the knowledge that Paul was a"pretty old guy" when he got Saved?

since right before this event, he was a "student" of Gamiliel, and I just dont think that Gamilel would have taken old men as students.

so could you give me the link where you found out that info about Paul, I would like to read it for myself.

Paul died when he was only 62, that is younger than you and I.lol.

it is believed that Paul was around 14 when he was sent to study the law under gamaliel

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#404836 Nov 25, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Robert,
The Law of Moses did not make Paul alive unto God.
Paul had "to die to the Law."
Paul said "no" to self and "yes" to Christ, just as we have to when we are baptized.
Romans 6:6-7
6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin—
7 because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.
Again, how does this apply to infant baptism???
Truth good friend

But Paul had faith in the Law, prior to faith in Christ.

Romans 4:11

Circumcision is a sign of righteousness, both before, and after for Abraham, and the Law of Moses.

Since we are not under the Laws of Moses, we can be circumcised to the faith of Abraham, but baptism is a new sign.( I am speaking of both water and Spirit.) in which we are sealed.

Thus as adults and children(infants) were circumcised under Abraham and the Law of Moses, now adults and children(infants) are baptised in the Law of Grace.
marge

Ames, IA

#404837 Nov 25, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
marge good friend
Maybe its hard to prove, to the unbeliever, but it is scriptural.
Remember faith is a sign of righteousness(faith is one of the virtues) to Abraham before he was circumcised, and then became circumcised....Romans 4:11
The effects and effectiveness are by God's Grace and man's acceptance of that Grace.
Baptism is a seal as is circumcision....
When one is baptized from above with the Holy Spirit it can be proved.

Yes by Faith!

All I'm saying Robert is that water-baptism is not what saves but by Grace through Faith:)
preston

Waverly, OH

#404838 Nov 25, 2012
the reason baptism is not necessary for salvation is because we are justified by faith (Rom. 5:1; Eph. 2:8), not by faith and a ceremony (Rom. 4:1-11). You see, a religious ceremony is a set of activities or forms peformed by someone. In the Bible circumcision was a ceremony where one person performed a religious rite on another person. Likewise, baptism is also a ceremony where one person performs a religious rite on another person. But, we are saved by faith alone and anything else we do, including ceremonies, will not help.

http://carm.org/is-baptism-necessary-salvatio...

speaking only for myself, I was saved on 8/25/82 and 36 hours later, filled with the Holy Ghost.

what else would I need, I was already saved.

the answer is obvious, if I had died then I was still a christian, however to join many if not most Churches, you must be Baptised, but that was not my reason.

baptism was something that I really didnt feel that I needed(not only that, i didnt like the idea of someone shoving me backwards and maybe hirting my neck).

but God assured me tha it would be okay, and so i dxecided that 9 months after I was saved, i would get baptised, and when the nine months was about over, I went to a church where my pastor was preaching and sure enough, he preached about Baptism.

the following Sunday, I was baptised and God blessed that day
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#404839 Nov 25, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor things! Christ came to serve, not be served. These misguided souls would do well to prayerfully reflect upon this simple, loving premise from which our redemption flowed.
Have no fear, the Church has her xxxx very much together! Everything is right!
SELFLESSNESS!
Perhaps a Laxative might help....lol
Orville

Portland, OR

#404840 Nov 25, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
marge good friend
Maybe its hard to prove, to the unbeliever, but it is scriptural.
Remember faith is a sign of righteousness(faith is one of the virtues) to Abraham before he was circumcised, and then became circumcised....Romans 4:11
The effects and effectiveness are by God's Grace and man's acceptance of that Grace.
Baptism is a seal as is circumcision....


Water baptism & circumcision are not seals as I understand Scripture. These are mans public declarations. A distinction is made however in the following Scriptures;

However, a Holy seal, is given from Holy God and only by Holy God can they be given.

Matt. 3...

11I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.

Ephesians 1:
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Orville

Portland, OR

#404841 Nov 25, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>any person that has read your posts for any length of time has recognized that you arent very much of a student.
remember when you tried to use the garden episode to try and prove your understanding of OSAS.and you didnt read the "rest of the story" when John fully explained that it had been fully discharged that night.
if you cant get that right, how would you understand what ROB is saying.
the answer is obvious, you dont have the intelligence.
continue to listen to mr and mrs fraud, after 125 years, they dont know what they are talking about either.



Wrong Coyote-Preston. Wrong. Again.

Marge has more credibility here than anyone.

It is you, Coyote-Preston who has absolutely no validity here, no honor, no truth, nothing but a mis-guided, closet homo, vile, evil, Roman Troll.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#404842 Nov 25, 2012
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
I have seen pictures like this before, FOL. I am not sure but I think our Pastor's daughter brought them to our church once along with some of scriptures from the lost sea scrolls.
Or to a prayer meeting can't remember now it was long ago. Its understandable, the manger would be hollowed out of the wall of a cliff as was Jesus's tomb. Its nice to see places where Our Savior walked and talked and lived among people.
How are you doing FOL are you feeling ok??
Thank you.

I'm doing ok,old arther is visiting more often since it's gotten colder.

Part of getting older I guess.

Thank you for asking.
Orville

Portland, OR

#404843 Nov 25, 2012
preston wrote:
read this article, with a little bit of understanding.
it is a humorous yet still a serious article.
God Angrily Clarifies 'Don't Kill' Rule
September 26, 2001 | ISSUE 37•34 | More News
God.
"Look, I don't know, maybe I haven't made myself completely clear, so for the record, here it is again," said the Lord, His divine face betraying visible emotion during a press conference near the site of the fallen Twin Towers. "Somehow, people keep coming up with the idea that I want them to kill their neighbor. Well, I don't. And to be honest, I'm really getting sick and tired of it. Get it straight. Not only do I not want anybody to kill anyone, but I specifically commanded you not to, in really simple terms that anybody ought to be able to understand."
Worshipped by Christians, Jews, and Muslims alike, God said His name has been invoked countless times over the centuries as a reason to kill in what He called "an unending cycle of violence."
"{{I don't care how holy(SEE THIS MR FALSE PROPHET AND HIS SISTER MARGE) somebody claims to be," God said. "If a person tells you it's My will that they kill someone, they're wrong. Got it? I don't care what religion you are, or who you think your enemy is, here it is one more time: No killing, in My name or anyone else's, ever again."
http://www.theonion.com/articles/god-angrily-...
it is satire, so if you are to ignorant to know what satire is, DONT READ IT, IT WILL JUST GO OVER YOUR HEAD



Lame brain, twisted, backwoods hillbilly.

The article is referring to man using "GOD" to justify killing each other.

Your dummer than a fried hamburger.
preston

Waverly, OH

#404844 Nov 25, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Wiley-Preston steals again."Prayer" stolen from:
http://www.spirithome.com/prayersp.html
I still petition Holy God to remove you from this earth. Still. Sometimes daily. You refer to this as "Kill" - "death". To you it probably is . You will not partake in the second death. And you know this.
Then you try to bring Marge into your sinister and dark agenda by once again hurdling very personal insults at her. Again.
I do not and will not ever see you as a anything but what you are. A Roman troll. They are not my brother.
any one can use google or bing to find almost anything, so if I dont put the link no problem. I DONT CARE.

and I didnt bring marge into your sinsiter lifestyle, she brought her own ignorant self in, by calling you a brother.

and what I have said about her is very evident, she is the person taht said that Jesus neve lost anyone and John later said that "saying" was fulfilled in the garden,

know what you are talking about there, false prophet.LOL.

"daily" huh.lol.
dont you know anything about God?

he doesnt heal one day and answer a prayer from (?), I aint got words to describe you,the next day.

one thing is certain, you are short a couple of nuts and bolts to complete your head.

God’s personal message to Jeremiah,“Attack you they will, overcome you they can’t,”[9] was fulfilled many times in the Biblical narrative, Jeremiah was attacked by his own brothers,[10] beaten and put into the stocks by a priest and false prophet,[11] imprisoned by the king,[12] threatened with death,[13] thrown into a cistern by Judah’s officials,[14] and opposed by a false prophet

to save you time.lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah
Orville

Portland, OR

#404845 Nov 25, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>any person that has read your posts for any length of time has recognized that you arent very much of a student.
remember when you tried to use the garden episode to try and prove your understanding of OSAS.and you didnt read the "rest of the story" when John fully explained that it had been fully discharged that night.
if you cant get that right, how would you understand what ROB is saying.
the answer is obvious, you dont have the intelligence.
continue to listen to mr and mrs fraud, after 125 years, they dont know what they are talking about either.


Wiley-Preston,

You better hope upon your knees I am not a prophet.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#404846 Nov 25, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>Robert, where did you come up with the knowledge that Paul was a"pretty old guy" when he got Saved?
since right before this event, he was a "student" of Gamiliel, and I just dont think that Gamilel would have taken old men as students.
so could you give me the link where you found out that info about Paul, I would like to read it for myself.
Paul died when he was only 62, that is younger than you and I.lol.
it is believed that Paul was around 14 when he was sent to study the law under gamaliel
preston

You are probably correct.

I miswrote what I was thinking....I was responding to a reference in Paul's writing to the Galatians..., which he wrote as a "pretty old guy".

Of course that is relative, in today's world he would be considered middle aged.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#404847 Nov 25, 2012
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Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#404848 Nov 25, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
preston
You are probably correct.
I miswrote what I was thinking....I was responding to a reference in Paul's writing to the Galatians..., which he wrote as a "pretty old guy".
Of course that is relative, in today's world he would be considered middle aged.
Robert, you are always so kind to everyone :)

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