There are clear indications that the virgin birth story was a later addition or invention, given that it does not bode well with the original accounts of the life of Jesus. Example, in other gospel passages Mary shows little or no understanding of Jesus and his special role.who="Michael"
.......There are differences in the nativity story which serve to lessen its credibility. As an example, in an attempt to parallel the importance of Jesus' birth with that of Moses, Matthew describes the massacre of the children of Bethlehem by king Herod as he attempts to kill the infant messiah.
This extraordinary event is not attested to by any SECULAR SOURCE from that period, nor even referred to by Luke. Indeed, Luke has the family return peacefully, to Nazareth after Jesus' birth in Bethlehem (Luke 2:22,39).
If the massacre did take place, it does not make sense that Herod's son later on does not recall the event by his father about Jesus nor his importance (Matt. 14:1-2). Moreover, if Herod and all the people of Jerusalem knew of the messiah's birth (Matt. 2:3), why is it that later in Jesus' life, the "same" author claims that people had not heard of his miraculous origin and still questioned his miracles and his teachings (Matt. 13:54-56)?
.....conflicting information or what!
....something is wrong DustStorm...
Secular sources, then as now, doggedly attempt to discredit the story...NOT proclaim it.
According to Luke, the message of the angel Gabriel made it perfectly clear to Mary that Jesus was ordained to be the messiah, the king and savior of Israel. This message was also reinforced by the prophesies of Simeon and Anna (Luke 2:34,38)
Surely, such predictions and the miracle of her virginal conception would have indicated to Mary that Jesus was someone special, if not divine. Yet Mary does not understand Jesus' reference to the temple as his father's house (Luke 2:48-50).
Every king or pagan savior from the past acknowledged their special purpose from the very beginning. Yet Jesus went 33 years and still couldn't convince his jewish brethern who he was as christian tradition teaches.
Was the entire Jesus story fabricated and the ending having to be that Jesus went from helping the poor to becoming a rebel rouser or serious trouble maker and make the jewish leaders so mad they wanted to kill him.
Scriptures claim 10s of thousands of jews loved this Jesus, and no enemies in sight, yet a very very short time later, no one loves this man anymore because no supporters show up at his crucifixion.
Jesus or Barabas.....they were given a choice. The crowd determined the fate of this man as christian tradition ONLY teaches. What would have happened if the crowd flipped a coin and it was Barabas to be crucified. Afterall the scriptures said it was a choice between jesus or barabas. How would christianity have ever started if Barabas was crucified?
makes no common sense.....