Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404454 Nov 24, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>maybe a little of both,well a lot of being dishonest. he came on here being a fraud and she is just like him. the devil has yoked them equal.
when you see that people like them follow the likes of benny hinn, that clue sticks out as to the character that they possess.
Benny Hinn is a Fake!
by David J. Stewart
At Benny Hinn's crusades—he dazzles the crowds, plays captivating music, and manipulates the emotions of the audience; BUT, he is not of God. What is happening is not of God. Benny Hinn is a master con artist, who fully understands the human psyche. I was watching one of Benny Hinn's crusades the other day on TV. At first impression, Benny Hinn appears as a man of God. He has that curious and distinguishing look that mesmerizes the crowds. Benny Hinn comes across as an extremely interesting character, with the power to hypnotize the masses with his charm, music, and exploitation of the Bible.
As I watched Benny Hinn perform on stage, it reminded me more of a rock star in concert. There were many thousands of people in the audience, and no doubt, millions more on TV. Just as rock-n-roll fans, the audience was in the palm of the performer, Benny Hinn. Hinn never mentioned the word "sin," never mentioned the word "Saviour," but just kept talking about how wonderful Jesus is. This is one of Satan's greatest deceptions.
We read in Acts16:16-18, "And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour." Just as the demon possessed woman in Acts 16:17 who spoke the truth while also serving the Devil, so does Benny Hinn and mr fraud speak of Jesus Christ while serving the Devil.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/benny_h...
As Benny Hinn steps into his 2013 Mercedes, do you really think Benny cares what you say about him?

"judge not less yee be judged" Preston...
Clay

Chicago, IL

#404455 Nov 24, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
My friend Clay
Be specific and post back what information I am posting is incorrect?
If your church one day does blow up, please! Clay start blaming the ones from within who would cause this, not me for pointing them out.
I post factual information that you just don't want to know about. An intelligent person would want to know everything about his church, good and bad.
Im curious to know everything there is to know about my Church.
You don't offer anything fresh or shocking to me.
Sorry man. But a Priest getting a DWI (hypotheticaly) has nothing to do with the validity or significance of the Roman Catholic Church. You post crap just to throw dirt on the Church because you somehow have bitterness towards God (or the idea of a God).

Since: Nov 08

usa

#404456 Nov 24, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
......not to forget the donkey and talking snake both spoke fluent hebrew, and neither one of them knew the alphabet or had vocal chords.
Lets not forget the unforgetable story of Jonah almost drowning and God sends a BIG FISH for Jonah and spends 3 days swimming around in the belly of this big fish. Try that today people? Who was there to record such a story?
FACT?? or FICTION??
ALL TRUE STORIES!
Raise your hands in the air!!....ITS A MIRACLE!!!
I like the 3 little pigs story better......
do you believe what this woman claims? that god told her to drive 100 mph?
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404457 Nov 24, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I did read the article. Sorry man, there was nothing shocking in it. I don't know what to tell you mike. I never once thought the Church (or anyone) could possibly know the exact yr Christ was born.
Its not like Mary and Joseph took Him Chunk E. Cheese every year for His Birthday.
And why would the Holy Spirit feel the need to reveal the actual date?
If you were adopted and did not know your actual Birthday, would it lesson the significance of your birth and life?
Pope says christianity has made a miscalculation of important events and dates.

1) There is no basis for historical fact of the birth year of Jesus.
2) There is no basis for hsitorcal fact of December 25
3) There is no basis for historical fact of farm animals in the nativity scene that all catholics originally believed and practiced.

What is coming down the pipe next Clay?

Clay says......did read the article. Sorry man, there was nothing shocking in it. I don't know what to tell you mike. I never once thought the Church (or anyone) could possibly know the exact yr Christ was born.

Michael says....

Don't know the birthday and year of the most important man in christianity? Don't know what he did for a living to support himself? Don't even know what this man looked like? Don't know the dates of the crucixion and resurrection yet christians claim these to be the MOST IMPORTANT dates on their calendar? How can you say you know Jesus when you don't know anything about him?

Clay says.......how could anyone know the exact year?

Michael says......Julius Cesaer we know plenty!

) Born July 100 BC in Subura Rome

) Died March 15, 44 BC. age 55.

) We know what he did for a living.

4) We know what he looked like as we still have coins today that depict his image.

5) Many Mulitiple sources of information about this man.

----------

Jesus we know nothing! really!

You tell me what I posted that upsets you? I posted the truth. How can the truth upset you so?


“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#404458 Nov 24, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>YEAH, WE KNOW THAT TRUTH IS WANTING IN you.
btw, if you even use one lower case leter, the rest of your caps will go through.
Professional railer ignored for want of truth.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#404459 Nov 24, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>YEAH, WE KNOW THAT TRUTH IS WANTING IN you.
btw, if you even use one lower case leter, the rest of your caps will go through.
Professional railer ignored for want of truth

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#404460 Nov 24, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>I started having contempt for him not long after he came on line back in 08.
no wonder he got kicked off of this forum by Topix, and we should put that example in the World book of Guiness.
the ONLY person to get kicked off of topix.
no one can beat that record.
Professional railer spreading his gossip again.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#404461 Nov 24, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>read Luke 10:7.
dont beleive anything that she tells you
Professional railer spreading His gossip again..
Clay

Chicago, IL

#404462 Nov 24, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Pope says christianity has made a miscalculation of important events and dates.
1) There is no basis for historical fact of the birth year of Jesus.
2) There is no basis for hsitorcal fact of December 25
3) There is no basis for historical fact of farm animals in the nativity scene that all catholics originally believed and practiced.
What is coming down the pipe next Clay?
Clay says......did read the article. Sorry man, there was nothing shocking in it. I don't know what to tell you mike. I never once thought the Church (or anyone) could possibly know the exact yr Christ was born.
Michael says....
Don't know the birthday and year of the most important man in christianity? Don't know what he did for a living to support himself? Don't even know what this man looked like? Don't know the dates of the crucixion and resurrection yet christians claim these to be the MOST IMPORTANT dates on their calendar? How can you say you know Jesus when you don't know anything about him?
Clay says.......how could anyone know the exact year?
Michael says......Julius Cesaer we know plenty!
) Born July 100 BC in Subura Rome
) Died March 15, 44 BC. age 55.
) We know what he did for a living.
4) We know what he looked like as we still have coins today that depict his image.
5) Many Mulitiple sources of information about this man.
----------
Jesus we know nothing! really!
You tell me what I posted that upsets you? I posted the truth. How can the truth upset you so?
You know so little about Christ and Catholicism that's its like explaining things to an illiterate 7 yr old.
But you used to be Catholic? Ya ok. Then I believe you stated you were molested by a Priest? Refresh my memory, didn't you state that last year?

Christ was born a poor homeless man. Sorry dude, the census in Bethlehem didn't care much about His birth. Julius Ceasers birth would have been celebrated and documented.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#404463 Nov 24, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
Words from my heart:
I once joined a church that declared that it was the only church that was going to heaven. It sounded reasonable at the time for reasons I won't explain. But that whole church (internationally) loved God, and studied His Word.
Eventually, they took a new look at John 3:16, and found that God loves the WORLD...not just their little group.
Jesus told His disciples to "Go into the world and make disciples..." Revelations declares that the number before God's throne would be from EVERY TRIBE, AND TONGUE, AND NATION. Scripture also declares that, "He that loves not, does not know God." I'm sure that that does not mean just one's little group, because Jesus told us to love our ENEMIES.
We are also instructed that, if we see one taken in a fault, those which are spiritual are to restore that one "in a spirit of meekness", considering themselves, lest they also be tempted.
Where is the meekness? Everything that I have told you IS TRUE, but I have been 'dogged' with 'liar' in nearly every post recently. I did write 'singing' instead of 'saying', because that is a common report of the angels. Also I gave BCN instead of Zionica (both Christian online news). Those were not 'lies'. There was no intent to deceive.
There is NO WAY that any of you could know whether the incidents that I gave were true...but you have called them lies without knowing if they were true, and in spite of being told that they were true. They are not hearsay...I was there.
"Bring EVERY thought into subjection to the mind of Christ." "The power of life and death are in the tongue."
For your own sake, give Jesus a chance with your heart. Perhaps your flesh is ruling your thoughts. I would hate to think that you have been taught to behave that way...if so, you need a new Teacher. This is why that we attempt to point out some of the fallacies in ANY denomination...not just the CC.
KayMarie
25Nov12.....

.....Our Lord Jesus Christ installed Peter as the first Head of HIS Church. This leadership has been handed down over the centuries.

Albeit, there have been some Really & Truly 'rotten, deceitful, and hypocritical popes.....Most popes have kept the Faith and done the 'right thing'. Even 'Dante'(Dante's Inferno)... had his Pope of the day included in the 'lover Ring' of his Thesis on hell.

Pope John Paul II was a kind and honest and hard-working and compassionate man. Pope Pius XII was not.

Everybody gets what they deserve 'in da End'.

Ps:.....The Holy Roman Catholic Church is the ONE TRUE CHURCH.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404464 Nov 24, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, you're a slick one...or so you think. You made a false accusation and you can't bring yourself to apologize or even retract it. Okay, noted.
No, I don't understand that line because it makes no sense. You don't understand it either. You haven't a clue as to what you're talking about and are just slinging mud. Also noted.
Regina M. says to confrinting.......Oh, you're a slick one

You haven't a clue as to what you're talking about and are just slinging mud.

Michael says........just 3 days ago confrint. and KayMarie posted to you wishing you well, and hoping you were all right after you spending two weeks paddling around Patterson NJ in your canoe.


The Lords prayer........"we forgive those that trespass against us"

I am not feeling the LOVE REGINAM.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#404465 Nov 24, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You didn't need to correct your typo. We already know what your going to say before you post. Crusades crusades inquisition torture murder.
Did you do the responsible thing and learn about those events?
25Nov12.....

.....and you do NOT have to bother to post at all.

Ps:...ALL members know vot you are going to say anyways...what vit your schidt-for-brains.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
Clay

Chicago, IL

#404466 Nov 24, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Pope says christianity has made a miscalculation of important events and dates.
1) There is no basis for historical fact of the birth year of Jesus.
2) There is no basis for hsitorcal fact of December 25
3) There is no basis for historical fact of farm animals in the nativity scene that all catholics originally believed and practiced.
What is coming down the pipe next Clay?
Clay says......did read the article. Sorry man, there was nothing shocking in it. I don't know what to tell you mike. I never once thought the Church (or anyone) could possibly know the exact yr Christ was born.
Michael says....
Don't know the birthday and year of the most important man in christianity? Don't know what he did for a living to support himself? Don't even know what this man looked like? Don't know the dates of the crucixion and resurrection yet christians claim these to be the MOST IMPORTANT dates on their calendar? How can you say you know Jesus when you don't know anything about him?
Clay says.......how could anyone know the exact year?
Michael says......Julius Cesaer we know plenty!
) Born July 100 BC in Subura Rome
) Died March 15, 44 BC. age 55.
) We know what he did for a living.
4) We know what he looked like as we still have coins today that depict his image.
5) Many Mulitiple sources of information about this man.
----------
Jesus we know nothing! really!
You tell me what I posted that upsets you? I posted the truth. How can the truth upset you so?
I don't believe the Church ever stated that animals were in the stable. Does it matter? People are free to envision the Birth setting how they want provided it doesn't contradict scripture.
jonah the prophet

Waverly, OH

#404467 Nov 24, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Your spiritually delusional, deceived, and will never hear a utterance of repentance from me.
You are not Holy God. You believe so though.
this kind of attitude assures it.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404468 Nov 24, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
Professional railer spreading His gossip again..
That has to be a forum record. Posting 5 identical posts rapidly one after another.

Seriously! why do you even respond to Preston? He is a bully, he enjoys intimidating people. He wants you to be mad and respond back.

He was probably the big awkward kid in school, that everyone made fun of. The only way he could respond would be to lash out, and then the kids would laugh even more at him. Yup! thats him.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#404469 Nov 24, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You know so little about Christ and Catholicism that's its like explaining things to an illiterate 7 yr old.
But you used to be Catholic? Ya ok. Then I believe you stated you were molested by a Priest? Refresh my memory, didn't you state that last year?
Christ was born a poor homeless man. Sorry dude, the census in Bethlehem didn't care much about His birth. Julius Ceasers birth would have been celebrated and documented.
25Nov12.....

......ListenUp 'diClay' and get an edumacation.

Julius Caesar's (not Ceasers) actual birth was NOT celebrated.

The tribes warring amongst each other during the times included the village where Caesar's parents were living. It is a 'FACT'
that his father was killed and so was his mother. When his mother was killed, the soldier that had done the vile deed noticed that she was heavily 'pregnant'. He proceed to cut open her belly with his sword and pulled the enfant from her womb. He held the baby up with the umbellical cord stretching outwards. Suddenly the baby sprang to life. The soldier had some 'mercy' in his heart and kept the baby.....probably to become a slave for his house.

Ps:....That's why babies born today by being taken from the stomachs of their mudders, are called born by Caesarian Birth.

...betCha didn't know dat toooooooooooooooo.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

Since: Nov 08

usa

#404470 Nov 24, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Another monkey wrench!
The pope will probably write another book and report more miscalculations, and now state that DECEMBER 25TH is the real date of the birth of Jesus in 14 BCE, or 7 BCE, or 9 BCE....etc.
Over the past 2,000 years, Hundreds of millions of catholic laity, nuns, priests, bishops, cardinals, popes, all went to their graves not knowing that Jesus was actually born several years before what the church tradition taught them.
I watched a documentory a few years back about dates in witch things took place in the bible and none of them matched up,to the time frame.example joshua's story about destroying the city, the city in question was destroyed allright but not by him,it was destroyed 700 yrs earlier by an earthquake going by what geologists/archeologists found within the city,carbon dating was done on artifacts and proved the date on which joshua supposedly destroyed the (can't remember name) city was wrong,jesus' b-day is speculated to be around the month of september,not the pagan holiday date of dec. 25. actually it is a good date to use because if you live in snow&cold country,it is a great way to break the cabin fever blues.same goes for new year date,which should of been feb. 1st not january space it out a little more again for same reason as i stated,help get you out of the cold and snowy blues.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404471 Nov 24, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe the Church ever stated that animals were in the stable. Does it matter? People are free to envision the Birth setting how they want provided it doesn't contradict scripture.
Every catholic family I eve knew that had a nativity scene including the big industrial sized ones in the city centre square had animals.

I would bet that if you have a nativity scene you have a bunch of little toy cows, camels, other barnyard animals, and tiny singing nuns or angels, placed strategically within a little fence that keeps them all in.

You say it doesn't matter, but I bet you have them. Am I right?



“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#404472 Nov 24, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>25Nov12.....
.....Our Lord Jesus Christ installed Peter as the first Head of HIS Church. This leadership has been handed down over the centuries.
Albeit, there have been some Really & Truly 'rotten, deceitful, and hypocritical popes.....Most popes have kept the Faith and done the 'right thing'. Even 'Dante'(Dante's Inferno)... had his Pope of the day included in the 'lover Ring' of his Thesis on hell.
Pope John Paul II was a kind and honest and hard-working and compassionate man. Pope Pius XII was not.
Everybody gets what they deserve 'in da End'.
Ps:.....The Holy Roman Catholic Church is the ONE TRUE CHURCH.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
~~~

Torture was previously forbidden by canon law but in 1252 Pope Innocent IV sanctioned the use of torture[9] and also granted dispensation for the inquisitors to be present during its application.[citation needed]

Psychological Torture: was a potent weapon in the hands of the inquisitors. Prisoners were confronted with friends and relatives begging a confession;canon law still only permitted torture to be used once but actually it could be repeated after a delay by the use of the legal device of continuance the psychology of delay including continuance was common, lifting and lowering hopes sometimes over a period of years; prisoners were kept in a state of ignorance of their fate and that of their families and often a strict regime of confinement in chains or other devices on a meagre diet was employed.[citation needed]
Physical torture: In Spain the usual method was to bind the arms tightly behind the back, attach heavy weights to the legs, lift the victim from the ground by means of a pulley and then jerk down. An alternate waterboarding method was to strap the victim by the arms, waist, thighs and calves to a trestle like a ladder with sharp rungs and tighten the ropes, lacerating the flesh. The trestle was sloped head down, the head restrained and the mouth forced open with iron devices. Water was then intermittently introduced into the throat inducing gagging and vomiting. The more familiar rack was also used in later years, along with thumbscrews and other instruments.
Humiliation: Victims, both men and women, were usually tortured naked. In addition, the victim were told that if they died under torture, that the Church would consider that they had committed suicide and would go straight to hell; whereas from the point of view of the torturers they had merely made a mistake or accident.[citation needed]
Relationship with Civil Law: Since the Church 'shed no blood' the guilty had to be handed over to the civil authorities for final punishment. Civil authorities only usually used torture as a means of actual punishment to the guilty, or as a means of gaining forensic information from criminals.[citation needed] And unlike the inquisition often forbade the torture of women with its sexual overtones.[citation needed] However, most of the torture methods the inquisition used were the same; the exception being those used in Germany and the Low Countries where other devices were used.[citation needed]
jonah the prophet

Waverly, OH

#404473 Nov 24, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
As Benny Hinn steps into his 2013 Mercedes, do you really think Benny cares what you say about him?
"judge not less yee be judged" Preston...
that part of the context is just what idiots like you quote.LOL

but there is not part of any verse that tells me that I cant be a "fruit inspecter" and the fruits of benny hinn and mr/s fraud are rotten.

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