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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 658650 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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truth

Perth, Australia

#404673 Nov 24, 2012
tot+h=toth
12 piramide

oh oh really
what a about 24 + 1..who is one?
''25'' why my number
25=1/4
then where is another 3x
sphere
north east south west

which 1/4 will be safe
only one 1/4 will be safe
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hh
i need calculated
shhhhhhhhhhh
4GVN

Saint Louis, MO

#404674 Nov 24, 2012
Fr Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
.
While it is true that we as Catholics practice infant baptism, I seriously doubt it it truly ne essary for anyone who has not attained the age of reason.
.
Rob
Do you agree with this statement ,Clay?
Read the question carfully, and try to actually answer it. Thanks in advance for your 'effort'.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#404675 Nov 24, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Ireland 1649
The Catholic Faith is banned by invading Protestants. Churches are desecrated. A bounty of ten pounds is placed on each Priests head. Those captured are hung until nearly dead, their stomachs cut open with cleaving knives, disembowled while still alive then beheaded.
Finally, their bodies are chopped in 4 pcs. Anyone found harboring a Priest is hanged immediately.
Nevertheless, it is Sunday, and you owe an obligation to God that is higher than any in the English Government. Arising at Midnight, your wife readies the children for the long chilly walk to Mass......
read more
catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm...
Henry the Eighths church,a spawn of Roman Catholicism with priests,nuns and other clergy,deacons and brothers,even having monasteries such as those of Saint Benedict.Today a Catholic convert from Anglicanism in England can find those disgruntled with that decision.But the truth is that two brothers,siblings of religious institutional hiearchies hate one another,and to this day there still is rivalry.The English are known for their stubborn ethnocentrism,and their anglicanism is a stronghold of identity to every British subject.The Roman Catholic Church to a Britisher who is Anglican,represents Italian domination of their church,anglicanism is English to the core,and they hate everything that is not British running their lives and especially their church.

The Irish always remained a threat to English sovereignty,because they clung to the Italian Roman Church.It is nationalistic pride that remains even to this day in the British,the Irish to them are seditious in their pride of Roman Catholicism.The British are at odds at times with the Scots and Welsh as well.I lived in South Wales for a year plus several months,believe me the British are tolerated in Wales,but not loved.Yes they may love Prince Henry,but they would sooner be Wales a separate country from Britain.

The Scottish people have always had a bone of contention with England.Even though both Scotland and Wales are basically Protestant,they are not solidly nor ever were Anglican in majority.The Scots embraced Presbyterianism with John Knox,and the Welsh have their brand of Presbyterian/Evangelical church.Anglicans exist of course in both countries and they are not the majority.But because of their protestant roots all three countries have been allied to each other in politics,and defense against enemies.But it is quite clear that both in Scotland and Wales there are many who dislike Britain(England).
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#404676 Nov 24, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Spanish Monarchy accompanied by priests,bishops,and cardinals sent by the holy See to monitor as it were,not stopping the inhuman torture,allegations,arrests,im prisonments,and finally the horrible burning at the stake,the many victims of the Inquisitions both in Europe outside of Spain,in Spain and Portugal,for 6 centuries,and it spread its evil tentacles even to the Americas.
That same Spanish Monarchy attended the Mass every day as it was their tradition,and gave full rights to their subordinates to JOIN the Church in the carnage of free citizens in Christ,or Judaism or Islam,even atheists and any person considered a possible heretic or "enemy of Roman Catholicism".It is all documented in secular history,sorry but a fact and sad,tormenting but forgotten,and now remembered here on this forum,to shock Catholic readers into the realization that their most glorious church has sunk to the most despicable depths to insure its institutional grip on the society of their times.
No, we are sorry you choose to remain ignorant. The facts are shocking to most Protestants who are utterly clueless of not only where the bible came from (attested to by protestant shclars and proved numerous times on this forum) but any knowledge of history at all other than blown up myths. Unfortunately you have no interest in the truth acknowledged by Protestants and secular historians even in a BBC documentary.

I have no doubt you were beating the war drums along with most of the evangelical and fundy protestants who were screaming for Muslim heads after 911. Its ok though if the Govt goes to war then its not a problem. It would only be evil if the Catholic Church was involved. ;0 Its ok says the polls amongst evangelicals to torture. The same ones who say, "We would not have done that if the Church and State were intertwined like it was in the days of Old. You would have no problem if I started to force your children to be Catholic right? You would have no problem if they were forced to be Muslim or JW or LDS right? LOL I guess that makes you evil by your standards. Most of Nazi Germany was Protestant, but they werent enlightened like you eh? It was all the churches evil fault the church should have remained silent and done nothing while Christians pleaded to them for help from severe opression, rape, murder, torture, opressive taxes. That was the right thing to do? Ignore their pleas?

The Inquisitions did not involve anyone who was Jewish or Muslim. Your ignorance is showing again, just as your ignorance of the Catholic faith has shown quite often. You can grow up in the faith and know little about it as has been demonstrated by many on this forum. You get what you put into it. Your knowledge is severely lacking so please spare us the you know routine. lol
truth

Perth, Australia

#404677 Nov 24, 2012
rob..who betray==second in line=cerubin
old cherub
o really
why is like that in religion
how many angels ranks ''9''
why is '9'
1234567890
9=second in last person
last letter before z is ''y''
if 9=letter i=yi
rob
cherobin
che rob in
cha che chi cho chu= c ha ''he'' c h i cho chu
chah cheh chih choh chuh
sash sesh sish sosh shuh=s as h ses h s is h sos s os h s huh uh h
map on atlas under h..where show
perfect describe just you need follow code letters and numbers as well words..you can find with any words..in this case find=agent..agent can find..about what which purpose to whom where why?
where is rob in
who how why about what
c h rob in
who is c
who is h
time=tic tac or pronouncement tik tak tik tak=o'clock
robotic..its tehnology set up about what?
Why to whom about what?
truth

Perth, Australia

#404678 Nov 24, 2012
http://www.google.com.au/search...
oh
black horse
whats black horse represent in bible=death revelation

death to whom why?

http://www.google.com.au/search...

pyramid read and find what is in..

but why?
for what?
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
http://www.google.com.au/search...
where is that piramide
why
which purpose
about what

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
http://www.google.com.au/search...
black horse revelation

ohhhhhhhhhhh
my rosary lead me know

why i go so long
tab horse
no i am not gemble
i am prayer..oh yes..no i don't spent money not to much
just

''symbol''black horse..bible

whyyyyyyyyyyyy
oh

i need find path

i am not going say
my sin my sin my biggest sin
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo
its mean i win..find something
who how where
forgive me
i don't be in church
but my rosary stay with me as present always..
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
mr and mrs krukovici=corupt=death deadly

Why is like that?
truth

Perth, Australia

#404679 Nov 24, 2012
pad shut up

if i say
''i am truth way..
see how way as code working

many city on this planet
Pad

Fishers, IN

#404680 Nov 24, 2012
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Not in the sense that they wish to portray.
They cannot comprehend as many in America cant nor do they understand the freedoms Americans or the west have. They were all beating war drums before the Iraq war.
I have no doubt LTM would be more than happy to submit to Islam or be put to death for having a bible which is the current penalty in Saudi Arabia. I am sure she was just fine with planes being flown into the WTC. I have no doubt she would have absolutely no problem at all if she, her parents or children were raped, murdered, tortured, forced to convert or if allowed to exist at all would pay most of your wages for the priveledge of being allowed to exist. I know of course no protestants have a problem with the many in the middle east right now who are being forced to leave to survive.(sarcasm) Well to be fair I am sure ltm is ok with it as long as they are Catholic and as long as it doesnt concern her where she lives. I am sure she would have no problem at all if Israel was wiped off the earth. Yeah she could just go to Saudi Arabia right now and whip out her kjv and show them how its done.
Islam means submission, and not just a passive submission to the book of Islam, the Koran. Submission for the followers of Mohammed means to carry out the will of Allah in history. The Muslim doctrine of the jihad, or holy war, stemmed from the ideas of the prophet himself—that is, that it was Allah’s will for a permanent war to reign until the rule of Islam extended over all the world. Hence Islam’s political domination could be, and was, spread by the sword. This is why Hillaire Belloc predicted almost a century ago that the West could again see a threat from Islam:
“It very nearly destroyed us. It kept up the battle against Christendom actively for a thousand years, and the story is by no means over; the power of Islam may at any moment re-arise”(5)
(5) Hillaire Belloc, The Great Heresies, Chapter Four
But, back to the history. By the second half of the 12th century, the Turks had brandished the sword and were creating considerable hardships for Western pilgrims in the East. Travel was no longer safe for Christian pilgrims without an armed escort, and even then, Christians who managed to return to the West had dreadful tales of persecution to tell.
When the call for a Crusade was finally made by Blessed Pope Urban II at Clermont in 1095, he stressed the outrages suffered by fellow Christians at the hands of the militant Muslims:
“They [the Muslim Turks] have invaded the lands of those Christians and have depopulated them by the sword, pillage and fire; they have led away a part of the captives into their own country, and a part they have destroyed by cruel tortures .… They circumcise the Christians, and the blood of the circumcision they either spread upon the altars or pour into the vases of the baptismal font. When they wish to torture people by a base death, they perforate their navels, and dragging forth the extremity of the intestines, bind it to a stake; then with flogging they lead the victim around until the viscera having gushed forth the victim falls prostrate upon the ground. Others they bind to a post and pierce with arrows. Others they compel to extend their necks and then, attacking them with naked swords, attempt to cut through the neck with a single blow. What shall I say of the abominable rape of the women? To speak of it is worse than to be silent .… On whom therefore is the labor of avenging these wrongs and of recovering this territory incumbent, if not upon you?”(6)
(6) Dana C. Munro,“Urban and the Crusaders”, Translations and Reprints from the Original Sources of European History, Vol. 1:2,(Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 1895), 5-8
http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologeti...
Read the article as well,good,very informative!
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#404681 Nov 24, 2012
Notre Dame 22 USC 13 Catholics win again!

I feel so much better now that with any nation or ecclesiastical union with a protestant at the helm their will be no more war or evil anywhere. No Protestant has any part in any war its just their representatives and everyone can just sit back and watch everything happen. Then again their will be lots of Protestant popes with far more authority than any pope has ever had, but they will have had no part at all in anything done wrong by anyone. Its just those Catholics. lol
Pad

Fishers, IN

#404682 Nov 24, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
It would be good for you to do some normal research on it. In fact, learn what an INQUISITION actually is!!
Right now, you know nothing. Tomorrow, come back and talk about it. Be sure to read about the Protestants who also conducted Inquisitions to root out members who went against their religion.
And if you're tallying up a body count, you'll see that the Protestants far outnumber the Catholics in committing murder.
Clay your last sentence here is full of baloney. Prots cannot be blamed for the murder and expulsion of Jews in Catholic dominated Europe for Centuries,so the fact that you decide Prots outnumber Catholics in being murderers is wrong,and impossible.Even though the British Anglicans killed many Catholics,funny they were Catholics too weren't they?of course you don't believe that;but the anglicans were just one country,but the rest of Europe had political ambitions and enterprises in many countries.Spanish and Portuguese Catholics wasted no time in humbling Aztec and Incas of Central and South America,with much murder and massacres.Portuguese Catholics humbled greatly the native populations in Brazil as well.

Your sentence has no proof of which group Catholic or Protestant committed the most atrocities.It seems the Protestant Reformers learned well from their Catholic parents.So any carnage from them is inherited to say the least. Human beings sin,and give in at times to the worst diabolical influences.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#404683 Nov 24, 2012
truth wrote:
pad shut up
if i say
''i am truth way..
see how way as code working
many city on this planet
Jesus is the Way,the Truth and the Life(Hebrews),I proclaim this by fiath in Him,it is not anything to do with Catholic or Protestant affiliation,but as an independent believer who witnesses unto Christ alone.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#404684 Nov 24, 2012
Dust Storm wrote:
Notre Dame 22 USC 13 Catholics win again!
I feel so much better now that with any nation or ecclesiastical union with a protestant at the helm their will be no more war or evil anywhere. No Protestant has any part in any war its just their representatives and everyone can just sit back and watch everything happen. Then again their will be lots of Protestant popes with far more authority than any pope has ever had, but they will have had no part at all in anything done wrong by anyone. Its just those Catholics. lol
Obama is a globalist liberal socialist,he hates Christianity and has proven that.He unbelievably associates himself with Chrstian faith,and at the same time jabs it with unrelenting fervor.He also stated that he was a Muslim as well.So Obama is not a protestant who does not believe in war,as prots in this country no doubt have been behind many moves toward entering war with other nations.

Look at your church history,wars and rumors of wars should have been their Mission statement.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#404685 Nov 24, 2012
It is almost 1AM have to run,I am tired. I get very testy if I am tired,and should go to sleep.It is best I do not debate when in this state.Bless you all,especially Dust Storm,he is a fighter and a strong man of conviction.May we now go in peace to love and serve Him.God bless! Good Night!
truth

Perth, Australia

#404686 Nov 24, 2012
you are pad don't you.
pad its mean on cro..padati=fall

think
''don't lose yourself because of me''
if god say like that..
then

WE SAY..''SVE STO SIJE ZLATO NIJE''

NECU=NOOOOOO
truth

Perth, Australia

#404687 Nov 24, 2012
SIJE=LIGHT=RAY HEAVEN
IF ANGLE RAY AS LETTER ''y''
look line y of this letter ''os''
osaka..
os ''sakas da ti kazem''
about what
os ray from osaka to liberia..see sao tome kako kome
klin as v vector os as y

shhhhhhhhhh
be good dsay necu=no

i am not kiss anyone
truth

Perth, Australia

#404688 Nov 24, 2012
nacijoj je ruci sat=o'clock..cija ruka nosi sat
citaj
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#404689 Nov 25, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Clay your last sentence here is full of baloney. Prots cannot be blamed for the murder and expulsion of Jews in Catholic dominated Europe for Centuries,.
As I said, "YOU really need to look at the history of Protestant persecution and you really have no clue at all in how badly Jews wanted to destroy the Church and what they did. Furthermore you have no clue as to how it has always been a part of the Church to protect them. Yes, that is a fact! The Pope didnt write the Jews and their lies. The Nazis began their roundup of Jews on Luthers Birthday! The death tolls are a reality! We of course all know Protestants had nothing to do with what many would call genocide of Native Americans nor your many witch burnings. There is plenty of bloodshed to go around. and Protestants who point fingers have many pointing right back. However its not hard to make a valid argument that Protestants killing Catholics, Jews, and other Protestants is by no means smaller. Luthers wholesale slaughter of Peasants was no small beginning.
Queen Elizabeth was merciless!
In 1844 in Philadelphia, the "city of brotherly love," Protestants besieged Catholic neighborhoods with cannon fire and pistols, and also set houses aflame, because the Catholics had protested the use of the Protestant's King James Bible in public schools. Martial law was declared, and it took two thousand federal troops to quell the rioting; eighteen people were killed and scores more were injured.
- Michael Feldberg, The Philadelphia Riots of 1844: A Study of Ethnic Conflicts
On May 4, 1535, in London, three Carthusian monks and one Bridgettine monk were hanged until partially conscious. Then their bellies were cut open, their intestines wrenched out and tossed on a fire, and their hearts ripped out by hand. The bodies were beheaded and quartered, and the pieces were posted at various locations throughout England. As the executioner slit open his belly, John Houghton, prior of the London Carthusian monastery, said, "O most holy Jesus, have mercy upon me in this hour." This was the punishment for treason in sixteenth-century England. Their crime? Refusal to recognize "the king, our sovereign, to be the supreme head of the Church of England afore the Apostles of Christ's Church."
CHRISTIAN HISTORY, Issue 48 (Volume XIV, Number 4)
Persecution, including death penalties for heresy, is not just a Catholic failing. It is clearly also a Protestant one, and a general "blind spot" of the Middle Ages, much like abortion is in our own supposedly "enlightened" age. Furthermore, it is an outright lie to assert that Protestantism in its initial appearance, advocated tolerance. The evidence thus far presented refutes this notion beyond any reasonable doubt.
http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2007/03/protes...
A 32-year-old Catholic woman was beaten to death after she refused to enter an evangelical church in northeastern Brazil. She was passing by the Church of the Kingdom of God when two pastors ordered their followers to bring her inside to attend a ceremony. When she refused, the group held her ten-year-old daughter while the pastors dragged her by the hair and beat her in order to "exorcise the devil from her."
- J. D. Bell, "Nuts in the News," The American Rationalist, Nov./Dec. 1994
Here's part 1 of a lecture from Dr. Warren Carroll "The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition."
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There are some recommendations and links to articles at the bottom of the page linked below.
http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/F0...
And here is another articles:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/madden2...
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#404690 Nov 25, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Obama is a globalist liberal socialist,he hates Christianity and has proven that.He unbelievably associates himself with Chrstian faith,and at the same time jabs it with unrelenting fervor.He also stated that he was a Muslim as well.So Obama is not a protestant who does not believe in war,as prots in this country no doubt have been behind many moves toward entering war with other nations.
Look at your church history,wars and rumors of wars should have been their Mission statement.
Oh, I though wars and rumors of war was Protestants killing each other over faith issues not land or other. Oh well..Actually I think Protestants have sufficiently divided, weakened and confused Christianity to the point of uncerstainty for so many they have walked away. There is no authority other than your personal opinion. Quarreling as Paul said turns people away. Muslims and atheists love it! You can make it up as you go along in Protestantism. Nothing is certain, noone can know any truth lest their opinion make it so. Chaous and anarchy. It was never so from the beginning.
truth

Perth, Australia

#404691 Nov 25, 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_concentra...
kad napravis geometry
/ to y see v/v one top one down as geometri ''os''
look on map atlas osaka mumbaj bumbaj liberia sao tome kako kome..
vidis li geometry ''os''..nemoj kazat..shhhh
http://www.google.com.au/search...
vidis to prvo slovo= first letter

http://www.google.com.au/imgres...

misli glavom..think with head
truth

Perth, Australia

#404692 Nov 25, 2012
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