Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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I never touched you Preston, nor spoke against your anointing from God.
I did speak against you make mean and nasty remakes againsts Gods chosen.
Are you a prophet Preston, I have known lots of men who have made claims like this, that didn't stop them from doing mean things Remember King David. He was a man after Gods own heart Preston.
I am done with you Preston, your still whipping that dead horse.
Say what you will I will not answer or respond to your post again.
I expected no less from you LTM. you made the accusation that I said that you wanted me dead and I proved that I never said that about YOU. that it was orville.

and even when you are shown that you are wrong in your accusations, you will not apologize.

in your false accusation, you did"touch" me and you will answer for it.

and I have never said that I was a Prophet.

that is the last part of that "WARNING" THAT YOU HAVE FAILED TO HEED.

you sold your soul for that piece of garbage , ORVILLE AND THOSE OTHERS THAT i HAVE SHOWED THEY ARE LIARS.

and they certainly are not God chosen,He doesnt choose liars and frauds.not to mention cowards.

"whipping a dead horse". you chose the right words for yourself.

and unlike me, when i make a mistake, I clear it up,

you dont!
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loved the FACT that you have been lying about your affilation with the satanic cult of ellen white.LOL.

lying all of this time and LTM calls you one of gods chosen.

from your link.

{Ellen White says in RH, January 11,1887 par. 15}
Already the restraining Spirit of God is being withdrawn from the earth. Hurricanes, storms, tempests, fire and flood, disasters by sea and land, follow each other in quick succession. Science seeks to explain all these.

more from this link that shows it is sda baloney.
Movements towards Sunday Law - Adventist Online
www.adventistonline.com/forum/topics/movement... ... ones who are bringing wrath upon the world. This falsehood is Satan’s device that he may ensnare the unwary.—The Southern Watchman, June 28, 1904.–{ChS 155.2
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preston wrote:
<quoted text>if you want to observe saturday as Shabbat. you ought to learn to spell it correctly.
Shabbat (Hebrew: &#1513;&#1463;&#14 73;&#1489;&#1464;& #1468;&#1514;&#8206;, "rest" or "cessation") or Shabbos (Yiddish: &#1513;&#1488;&#14 89;&#1468;&#1506;& #1505;) is the Jewish day of rest and seventh day of the week, on which they remember the traditional creation of the heavens and the earth in six days and the Exodus of the Hebrews,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbat
you arent jewish and I know his for a fact.
they are very intelligent people and you aint.
I see why no one likes you you are a idiot.....keep up the good work you are doing a great job.
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Do you think that Preston is Catholic???
lol......
all i know is he is a full blown idiot.
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<quoted text>I expected no less from you LTM. you made the accusation that I said that you wanted me dead and I proved that I never said that about YOU. that it was orville.
and even when you are shown that you are wrong in your accusations, you will not apologize.
in your false accusation, you did"touch" me and you will answer for it.
and I have never said that I was a Prophet.
that is the last part of that "WARNING" THAT YOU HAVE FAILED TO HEED.
you sold your soul for that piece of garbage , ORVILLE AND THOSE OTHERS THAT i HAVE SHOWED THEY ARE LIARS.
and they certainly are not God chosen,He doesnt choose liars and frauds.not to mention cowards.
"whipping a dead horse". you chose the right words for yourself.
and unlike me, when i make a mistake, I clear it up,
you dont!
Touch Not Mine Anointed
by David Wilkerson | November 13, 2001
[May 19, 1931 – April 27, 2011]

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"Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm" (Psalm 105:15). This brief verse contains a powerful warning from our Lord. And he means every word of it: woe to any nation or individual who lays a hand on those who are chosen of God. And woe to anyone who does harm to his prophets.

This severe warning has a dual application. First, the "anointed" and "prophets" here refer to natural Israel, God's people of the Old Testament. Yet God's warning not to harm his chosen continues to apply today. It also covers his spiritual Israel, that is, his church.

We mainly think of this warning in reference to Old Testament prophets or present-day ministers who stand for truth. It appears to be a declaration of God's protection over his servants
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That's scary. I don't like insulting them, but if my kids ever ended it up in one of those id be knocking down the door.
Here Get to studying:

Symbols In Bible Prophecy

http://www.teachinghearts.org/dre00symbols.ht...
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<quoted text>I see why no one likes you you are a idiot.....keep up the good work you are doing a great job.
God never said that I would be liked in fact just the opposite.

he said the World hated me first, so it will hate you too.

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
john 15:18.

I wonder what kind of reception that you would receive if I posted some posts about you on another forum when you use the nick of yadahim?

you make charles manson look like a prison superindent
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7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Here Get to studying:
Symbols In Bible Prophecy
http://www.teachinghearts.org/dre00symbols.ht...
I saw some symbols in your sda links.lol

someone stole a bunch of them from the masons.

anyway, who needs symbols when the Word is already ours.
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<quoted text>Here Get to studying:
Symbols In Bible Prophecy
http://www.teachinghearts.org/dre00symbols.ht...
http://www.jesusisfreedom.net/ seventh-day-adventists-symbols .html.

in the future dont OUT yourself.lol

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preston wrote:
<quoted text>you wer proven to be afake along time ago, and tho I dont reccomend it, all aperson ahs to do is google "yadahim" to find out what apervert taht you are.
also, he is lying, he is and does belong to the sda.
Christians dont celebrate Saturday as our Day of Rest. God gave that day for the Israelites as everybody knows.
Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, since He cried out on that Cross,
"IT IS FINISHED".
and on that Seventh Day, His work was done and He went back to His Father, back to His Day of Rest.
preston

I kind of disagree with you here. It is our sense of "weekend", which is the problem.

On Good Friday, Jesus declared, It is finished. Yes....This is the 6th day of creation.

On Holy Saturday, he was dead, and buried....The work was finished. It was a time of rest in a sense, for the old creation....The seventh day....

On Resurrection Sunday, he was resurrected, and the new creation began. And this was of bodily form.

The problem is our secularization of the "weekend". Actually Saturday is the 7th day. And Sunday is either the 8th day, or the 1st day of a new week. This is what we are a part of, the New Creation, and it is perpetual....

But as you say he entered back into his rest. And we also when we become Christians enter it also....
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7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Here Get to studying:
Symbols In Bible Prophecy
http://www.teachinghearts.org/dre00symbols.ht...
You see what you wanna see.. And people get a thrill off Apocalyptic talk.
When I was a kid (in Catholic school) my friends and I would read Revelation all the time. We would bring it down to the lunch room and go over that stuff. Then, we'd compare it to the Metallica and Slayer songs we were listening to. Like "The Four Horsemen"
It was a cheap thrill.

You risk your soul adding things to Revelation. You're only fooling yourself if you think your justified teaching what you think the Angel told John.
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I never touched you Preston, nor spoke against your anointing from God.
I did speak against you make mean and nasty remakes againsts Gods chosen.
Are you a prophet Preston, I have known lots of men who have made claims like this, that didn't stop them from doing mean things Remember King David. He was a man after Gods own heart Preston.
I am done with you Preston, your still whipping that dead horse.
Say what you will I will not answer or respond to your post again.
BTW, can i believe your last statement. I mean several times, you have said that you were leaving this forum for good and and it wouldnt take very long when you were right back here.YOU DO KNOW THAT IS CALLED LYING ,DONT YOU?

and then you made a covenant with me(and it only concerned you and I not insulting each other)and it lasted for just a few weeks.

you are just a very unstable person.

you say one thing ,then turn around and say something else.

you are a menace to not only yourself but to others.you need to find a doctor and be admitted and get help, you need it.
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<quoted text>loved the FACT that you have been lying about your affilation with the satanic cult of ellen white.LOL.
lying all of this time and LTM calls you one of gods chosen.
from your link.
{Ellen White says in RH, January 11,1887 par. 15}
Already the restraining Spirit of God is being withdrawn from the earth. Hurricanes, storms, tempests, fire and flood, disasters by sea and land, follow each other in quick succession. Science seeks to explain all these.
more from this link that shows it is sda baloney.
Movements towards Sunday Law - Adventist Online
www.adventistonline.com/forum/topics/movement... ... ones who are bringing wrath upon the world. This falsehood is Satan’s device that he may ensnare the unwary.—The Southern Watchman, June 28, 1904.–{ChS 155.2
When I have borrowed links from baptist , Catholic, J.W. etc it did not make me one nor doe si tnow. There is truth mixed with lie in almost all denominations that streamed down from the RCC traditions.

I googled bible symbols and their meanings that just happened to be the first with a list to copy and paste from. No big deal. Get a Life you Satanic Troll.
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preston
I kind of disagree with you here. It is our sense of "weekend", which is the problem.
On Good Friday, Jesus declared, It is finished. Yes....This is the 6th day of creation.
On Holy Saturday, he was dead, and buried....The work was finished. It was a time of rest in a sense, for the old creation....The seventh day....
On Resurrection Sunday, he was resurrected, and the new creation began. And this was of bodily form.
The problem is our secularization of the "weekend". Actually Saturday is the 7th day. And Sunday is either the 8th day, or the 1st day of a new week. This is what we are a part of, the New Creation, and it is perpetual....
But as you say he entered back into his rest. And we also when we become Christians enter it also....
I agree, as Christians,we enter into His rest with Him.

it makes no difference as to whether we consider Sunday as the 1st day or the 8th(I have heard of that before). the fact remains that His work was totally finished on Sunday. His death is very important to us but His Resurection is what puts Him above any other important person that has ever lived.

if he only died, then His work was uncompleted, we need that Resurection, to complete the Mission and work that His father gave Him
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Michael wrote:
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Clay says......
The Church had the authority to change the Sabbath, because Jesus gave them the Authority.
Sunday was set aside from the earliest possible beginnings of the Church. So people in various cults like SDAs, are in effect, changing what the Apostles clearly taught.
What a BS! weak knee excuse to change the jewish sabbath. Why change it at all Clay.
The apostles you say!! They were nothing but a bunch of sunday afternoon illiterate fisherman, and all of a sudden they jump 20 rungs up to be scripture writers. UNBELIEVABLE!
Constantine was the strong muslce and strong arm for the early catholic church, and Constantine strong armed his way into changing the sabbath to coincide with his own pagan beliefs. He worshipped the sun-god.....which he morphed into SUN-GOD....SUN-DAY......SUNDAY worship.
The catholic fathers went right along with that because they wanted to take any remnants of the JEW out of jesus and the laws of Moses.
The conflicting part of this is that the OT is all part of the scriptures, yet the catholic church changed what was written in the OT.
something is terribly wrong!
Thank Goodness I opted out of this nonsense...
I don't know what to say Mike. I already told you Christians observed Sunday 200 yrs BEFORE Constantine was even born.
You're just repeating the core Protestant lie that Constantine was responsible for Catholicism.
They need that lie so they can have an excuse to exist.
Like them, you also need that lie so you can feel justified. I expect you and them to ignore every fact presented about Constantine, because you people must submit to total ignorance to survive.
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with this post, you can se why the sda cultist doesnt like me.lol

Seventh-day Adventists Falsely Claim They are the Only True Church



The key to the preceding quote I gave you is question #13, which mandates that a person joining the SDA Church MUST (without exception) believe that “the Seventh-day Adventist Church is the remnant church of Bible prophecy.” This means that all other religions, including Baptist and Presbyterian, are viewed as being of the Devil by SDAs. SDAs arrogantly, and sinfully, teach that their organization is the only True Church, and that everyone else is following the Devil.

I can proudly say that I am a Baptist; but there’s no such thing as “The Baptist Church.” Jesus never founded a “Baptist Church.” Jesus is the foundation of the Church, period (1st Corinthians 3:11). Thus, there are numerous denominations which teach the Word of God faithfully concerning the plan of salvation. The mighty evangelist, Billy Sunday, was a Presbyterian minister. The mighty pastor, Dwight Moody, was a Baptist. Many godly pastors are non-denominational. They are all a part of the Body of Christ. For any religious group, such as the SDAs or Jehovah’s Witnesses to claim that they are the only True Church is unbiblical and a false teaching.



Interesting, from looking at the “Fundamental Beliefs of Seventh-day Adventists”(outlined on pages 7-17 in the SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH MANUAL), Baptists and SDAs align almost identically doctrinally concerning the Godhead, the Deity of Jesus Christ, Jesus’ Shed Blood, the Virgin Birth, et cetera. In fact, some writers such as Walter Martin have made the fatal mistake of identifying the SDAs as a Christian cult. My friend, there is NO such thing as a “Christian cult.” SDA is a demonic cult, as you will learn in the next section.


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Satan is a Beautiful liar



SDA is an extremely dangerous religion because it appears as being a genuine New Testament Church; but it is not in any way. I have been contacted by several SDAs over the past few years, in response to my online writings, who allege that I don’t understand their religion, and claim that SDA is Christ’s genuine Church. I do understand their religion, and it is of the Devil.



As much as SDAs attempt to deny it, their religion is rooted in self-righteousness. SDAs hold to a particular doctrine, which is exclusive only to their religion, which they refer to as “Investigative Judgment.” The following information is again quoted directly from SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH MANUAL...



“There is a sanctuary in heaven, the true tabernacle which the Lord set up and not man. In it Christ ministers on our behalf, making available to believers the benefits of His atoning sacrifice offered once for all on the cross. He was inaugurated as our great High Priest and began His intercessory ministry at the time of His ascension. In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry. It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin, typified by the cleansing of the ancient Hebrew sanctuary on the Day of Atonement…



The investigative judgment reveals to heavenly intelligences who among the dead are asleep in Christ and therefore, in Him, are deemed worthy to have part in the first resurrection. It also makes manifest who among the living are abiding in Christ, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and in Him, therefore, are ready for translation into His everlasting Kingdom. This judgment vindicates the justice of God in saving those who believe in Jesus. It declares that those who have remained loyal to God shall receive the Kingdom. The completion of this ministry of Christ will mark the close of human probation before the Second Advent.”



SOURCE: SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH MANUAL, pg. 15,16; ISBN 0-8280-1076-5; Revised 1995, 15th Edition; Review and Herald Publishing Association, Hagerstown, Maryland 21740

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I could literally write an entire book on the lies and false doctrines contained just in these two preceding paragraphs I’ve quoted to you. Wow, what a bunch of damnable heresies! Let’s take a closer look these SDA teachings and compare them to what the Word of God teaches. In John 5:39 Jesus commanded for us to… SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES!!! Let’s do so now.



The first thing I want to point out, which SDAs won’t, is that their religion DIDN’T exist until a wayward Baptist preacher by the name of Miller prophesied that the Lord would return in 1844, but He didn’t. 10,000 followers of Miller had sold their homes, given away all their earthly possessions, and were utterly disappointed when Jesus didn’t return in 1844. To save face, someone suggested that perhaps Miller had misunderstood the Bible, and the expected event had instead taken place in heaven. This is what they settled upon. Thus, a new religion was birthed and given the name in 1860 of Seventh-day Adventism.

There is absolutely nothing in the Bible to support such a bizarre claim by SDAs. By manipulating numbers and dates in the Bible, one can predict just about anything. Jehovah’s Witnesses have their own little cute way of ripping apart the Bible to make their false doctrines fit. SDAs have done the same thing, i.e., they have corrupted the Word of God in order to accommodate their false teachings.

It is very important to realize that SDA did not exist prior to Miller’s failed prophecy. If, as SDAs claim, the Bible teaches that the Lord would return in 1844, then why did only Miller and his followers believe this? The very manner in which the SDA religion came into existence is irrefutable proof that they are a manmade false religion.

Page 15 of the SDA Church Manual states:“In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry.” There is absolutely nothing in the Word of God teaching such nonsense. You can search the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and you won’t find anything about a “second phase” of Jesus’ atonement ministry. Even more bizarre is the ridiculous claim that the second phase began in 1844. Why hasn’t anyone, from any other religion, interpreted the Bible in such a way? It is only SDAs who make such bizarre claims, because their founders were made the laughing stock of an entire nation when Jesus failed to return in 1844.

Page 15 of the SDA Church Manual states:“It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin…” SDAs are liars. 1st John 1:7 states:“But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” It is Jesus’ precious blood that washes away our sins, and nothing else. SDAs teach that Jesus’ blood sacrifice is insufficient by itself to pay for our sins; teaching instead that a separate work which Christ began in the year 1844 A.D. is absolutely essential to one’s salvation. This bizarre doctrine is nowhere taught in the Bible.

Page 15 and 16 of the SDA Church Manual states:“The investigative judgment reveals to heavenly intelligences who among the dead are asleep in Christ and therefore, in Him, are deemed worthy to have part in the first resurrection. It also makes manifest who among the living are abiding in Christ, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and in Him, therefore, are ready for translation into His everlasting Kingdom.” This plainly teaches works salvation. No one is worthy of salvation. SDAs teach that in order to enter into God’s everlasting Kingdom, the prerequisites of abiding in Christ and keeping God’s commandments must first be met. This is self-righteousness and a sure road to Hell.
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Page 16 further states:“This judgment vindicates the justice of God in saving those who believe in Jesus. It declares that those who have remained loyal to God shall receive the Kingdom.” In other words, by our good works we prove that we are worthy of the salvation which was freely given in Christ. But what about those believers who commit horrible sins, deliberately disobey the commandments of God, fail to remain loyal, and follow Christ afar off? You see, SDA only works for those who are self-righteous. According to SDA doctrine, a person who lives in sin and fails to abide in Christ cannot go to Heaven. Clearly, the life one lives is a part of saving faith in the SDA religion.
Seventh-day Adventists Call God a Liar
The mythical doctrine of “Investigative Judgment” is based upon the idea of Christ analyzing each person’s life and trying to determine who is “worthy” to enter the Kingdom of God. In sharp contrast, the Word of God makes a PROMISE to every repentant sinner who calls upon the name of the Lord…“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved”(Romans 10:13). Whereas the Word of God promises salvation to anyone who trusts upon the name of Jesus for salvation; SDA teaches that there is NO guarantee of salvation until Christ’s work of Investigative Judgment is complete. SDAs are calling God a liar. Whereas 1st John 5:13 says that believers can “KNOW” they have eternal life; SDAs teach that only Christ knows who is truly worthy to enter the Kingdom.
In the Bible, salvation is based upon God’s unconditional love for sinful mankind (Romans 5:8), which caused Him to send His only begotten Son into the world to pay for our sins (John 3:16); but in SDA, salvation is based upon our loyalty to God, our faithfulness to keep God’s commandments, whether or not we abide in Christ, and then of course, our faith. SDAs speak double-talk. They profess to trust completely in Jesus Christ for salvation; while simultaneously claiming that one’s loyalty to God is a critical factor in salvation.
This is very similar to the damnable Calvinist doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints, which teaches that those who are genuinely saved will continue in the faith. Thus, in effect, holy living is required to keep one’s salvation. The problem with such sanctimonious thinking is that it ignores the Biblical reality of babes of Christ (i.e., immature believers) and backslidden believers. The Bible is filled with examples of believers who committed horrible sins, failed to remain loyal to God, failed to keep God’s commandments, failed to abide in Christ; yet, they were saved as by fire (1st Corinthians 3:15). Thank God, our salvation is not dependent upon anything we can do; but rather, upon what Jesus did at Calvary. Our part is simply to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31). Salvation is of God; not man. Eternal life is a “free gift” from God (Romans 5:15; 6:23; Revelation 22:17). Salvation is receiving; not giving.
God has promised to save anyone who believes on the Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 10:13). SDAs are liars to teach a conditional type of salvation based upon one’s loyalty to God. Such doctrine is self-righteousness, which God condemns (Romans 10:3,4).
Ellen G. White and Freemasonry
Photo to Right: Founder of 7th Day Adventism, Ellen G. White's Tomb Stone. Notice the Illuminati symbol. Obelisks represent Freemasonry, clearly evidenced by the Washington Monument. George Washington was a 33rd Degree Freemason.
Ellen G. White (November 26, 1827 — July 16, 1915) is only vaguely mentioned in the preface of the SDA Church Manual. Without prophetess Ellen G. White there would be no SDA Church; however, SDAs seek to avoid the issue because Ellen G. White’s life was saturated with damnable New Age heresies and bizarre experiences. SDAs revere White’s writings as being equally inspired with the Bible.
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<quoted text>God never said that I would be liked in fact just the opposite.
he said the World hated me first, so it will hate you too.
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
john 15:18.
I wonder what kind of reception that you would receive if I posted some posts about you on another forum when you use the nick of yadahim?
you make charles manson look like a prison superindent
post what you would like fred....you are still worshiping a man made god.....and to be honest i'm not to even talk with a god worshiper....you are way behind.post away......

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