Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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marge

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This is quite bizarre..
I don't understand what you're doing.
I'm taken aback by this apparent zombie like approach to sacred scriptures.
Should the Bible really be read like this? Should you realty be isolating words like that?
I don't think you know what you're doing. Its best to leave the Bible alone. It does not belong to you and is not for you to interpret.
God already gave Earthly Authorities the job of interpreting it. You people are too late in the game.
God gave all authority in heaven and on earth to Jesus, you must get your interpretation from Him alone.
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Clay wrote:
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This is quite bizarre..
I don't understand what you're doing.
I'm taken aback by this apparent zombie like approach to sacred scriptures.
Should the Bible really be read like this? Should you realty be isolating words like that?
I don't think you know what you're doing. Its best to leave the Bible alone. It does not belong to you and is not for you to interpret.
God already gave Earthly Authorities the job of interpreting it. You people are too late in the game.
he seems to be getting this false teaching a bout Shabat from this site, which is hiding it doctrinal theology, but it is clear that it is sda false techings.
http://1844rj.tripod.com/maranatha/id12.html
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I see YOU Preston have gone off the deep end, or is it a side-effect from the pharma meds you are likely taking.

Your out of control, may the Lord heal or rebuke you.
preston

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LTM, YOU ARE AN IDIOT PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
AT NO TIME HAVE I SAID THAT ABOUT YOU.
NOW READ MY LIPS.
AND CLAY IS HERE , HE WILL AGREE WITH ME.
ORVILLE SAID THAT HE PRAYED THAT GOD WOULD KILL ME.
now can you understand that?
AGAIN.
ORVILLE SAID THAT TO ME,
NOT YOU.
I ememer when you first come on here and ONE of the first things that I ever said to you was that your knowledge of the Queens English in "NIL AND VOID".
and I aint going back to find Orvilles post. if you are that stupid that you cant understand english, live with it.
and that IS WHY, ORVILLE HAS ATTACKED ME SO MUCH, THE DEMON THAT HE SAYS IS ME ACTUALLY CONTROLS HIM,
and it looks like it ahs a pretty good hold on you.
I NEVER APOLOGIZED FOR YOU TO HOJO, I did it because it was Gods will,
and I am glad that I did ,since you went and said the same thing again.
hopefully HOJO accepted my apology, and I believe that he did.
just because he defends His faith, doesnt mean that he is full of garbage. every person on here defends their faith or their lack of it, HOJO is no different, at least unlike jethro and mike, he has something and old LTM up in canada remains on the sideline as far as they are concerned.
as harsh as I have talked to people about their lies and deceitfulness, I dont assume that garbage is in their body,
WITH YOU THO, I AINT CERTAIN.
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Who's your Daddy???
Who's the head of your church???
Jesus Christ----plain and simple!!
preston

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marge wrote:
I see YOU Preston have gone off the deep end, or is it a side-effect from the pharma meds you are likely taking.
Your out of control, may the Lord heal or rebuke you.
lol. wanna tell me where I am out of control.

talk to your "big sister", she tried to say that I said that she wanted me dead or something.

she is on the meds that have deeply affected her,

I am doing fine, I very seldom have any apin withthe shingles.
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HOJO says he is not going to be judged by God! He is perfect.
unbelievable!
You continue to be "an expert" at twisting the TRUTH. Where and when did I say that I am not going to be judged by God! Yes---you are Michael---UNBELIEVABLE!!
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HOJO says he is not going to be judged by God! He is perfect.
unbelievable!
What I "did say" and you know (perfectly well) what I meant, is that I am not your judge, but that God is going to judge you (and me, as well) when we leave this earth.!!!! This is just more of your same--same---"manipulatio n" of words, ideas, phrases and sentences! No wonder you left the Catholic Church!!!
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YOUR POST IS SO SCREWED UP THAT i CANT RETURN A REPLY ANY OTHER WAY.

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PLEASE SHOW ME THE MESSAGE WERE I EVER SAID I WISH YOU DEAD PRESTON!!! I have never said that about anyone on here or in my life connections.
to say that about me is a lie Preston you are lying now yourself.

ME;

YOU ATTACKED ME YET SAID NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THEM ATTACKING ME FIRST.
I suppose that you think it is ok for {{{a false prophet like orville to wish me dead.}}} I mean that is godly talk, isnt it?
now put your glasses on and read that last sentance and I used quotation marks to help you see it better.
THIS ARGUMENT STARTED BECAUSE ORVILLE LIED ABOUT JESUS NOT PAYING ANY TAXES AND EVER SINCE HE HAS TAKEN EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO HINDER ME INCLUDING LYING CONSTANTLY,
AND I DEFEND MYSELF.
anyway live and learn. I am not like you, when i say something, I can prove it.
AGAIN FOR YOU TO READ.
I suppose that you think it is ok for {{{a false prophet like orville to wish me dead.}}} I mean that is godly talk, isnt it?
HOW IN THE WORLD COULD YOU OR ANYONE ELSE MISS THAT STATEMENT? IT WAS THE LAST ONE ON THAT POST
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What I "did say" and you know (perfectly well) what I meant, is that I am not your judge, but that God is going to judge you (and me, as well) when we leave this earth.!!!! This is just more of your same--same---"manipulatio n" of words, ideas, phrases and sentences! No wonder you left the Catholic Church!!!
I doubt if mike left willing, the stench that emits from him is evident even across the internet.and since he lives in canada, he cant take a bath until the next chinook

yet LTM remains silent about that person, oh well, she probably is his neighbor and has first hand knowledge about garbage, since they dump most of their garbage in Lake Erie .

and the US has to pay to clean it up
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<quoted text>you are very welcome HOJO.
when I cross over and it could be any day, I have used up my allotted time of 3 score and ten, I want to stand and say to my Savior that I have stood for what is right and His Truth.
I believe that anthony hit the nail on the head the other day when he asked me a question as to why the (so called ) protestants wish other chrsitians dead but the catholics never say things like that.
I gave him what I thought was an honest answer. "you were taught better, growing up in your church"
Thanks Preston! I was raised as Protestant, but (eventually) couldn't "stomach" the perverted anti-catholic lies, deceit and distorted condemning and judging of other Christians,--(especially Catholics)...... Understand, that not every Protestant is like that--but there are those "bible only" heretics (and they know who they are on this forum) that are so "insecure in their own faith" and have to criticize the salvation and faith of others (especially Catholics) in order to built up their own (re-liable, un-substantianted and unproven biblical doctrine that they so (unsuccessfully "push" on others!!
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<quoted text>he seems to be getting this false teaching a bout Shabat from this site, which is hiding it doctrinal theology, but it is clear that it is sda false techings.
http://1844rj.tripod.com/maranatha/id12.html
That's scary. I don't like insulting them, but if my kids ever ended it up in one of those id be knocking down the door.

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I don't think anyone ever believed Dec 25th was Jesus actual Birthday.
As for your other claims...
The Church had the authority to change the Sabbath, because Jesus gave them the Authority.
Sunday was set aside from the earliest possible beginnings of the Church. So people in various cults like SDAs, are in effect, changing what the Apostles clearly taught.
show me the passage where jesus gives his authority that defies his father, and grants a man made, man created position of a pagan christian church the right to change the sabbath. in the bible it states Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.gods law it can not be changed. For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.the position of pope was created by divinity,it was created by man,they have no authority to change or do anything.

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off to dinner, happy thanks giving all!!
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who="Proof that you are a liar. Topix rejected a word (not perverted word) that I copied from a CHRISTIAN DICTIONARY.
KayMarie
KM, I did see that word that you mentioned on those dictionaries that I copied.

unlike you, when I saw that word, i stopped for one reason, it didnt seem to agree with the other words being given,

but I could see just why topix would not let you use it.

you should have been as smart as me. I didnt try in the first place. common sense would have told you that it wasnt a nice application.

BUT IF YOU HAD ANY COMMON SESNSE, YOU WOULDNT HAVE SAID THAT JESUS WAS SPEAKING IN TONGUES, AFTER ALL, YOU GOT HIM BEHIND YOUR SKIRT AND SO YOU COULD HAVE ASKED HIM IF YOU SHOULD TRY AND POST THAT WORD.

I DONT HAVE 125 YEARS OF BIBLE STUDY BUT I GOT LOTS OF COMMON SENSE WHICH IS WHY I NEVER POSTED THAT WORD NOR TRIED, LIKE YOU.LOL
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AND JUST FOR THE RECORD. GONNA SNIP MOST OF IT JUST THE LAST IS IMPORTANT.

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who="preston" AS I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES, I HAVE FINGERS THAT ARE CROOKED DUE TO NERVE DAMAGE WHERE I GOT SHOT IN THE ARM AND THE ULNAR NERVE WAS ALMOST TORN IN TWO. SO I DO THE BEST THAT I CAN.
MY TYPING ISNT VERY GOOD AND I ADMIT IT.
BUT THAT DOESNT MAKE ME ALIAR,
but your husband is certainly the biggest liar on here. he falsely accuses me of many things and when he is proved to be aliar, he leaves for awhile and YOU come on.
tHE difference between me and him is that if I make a mistake, I admit it and correct it.
HE NEVER DOES ,SO SOMEDAY, THOSE SINS WILL FOLLOW HIM TO JUDGEMENT.
BTW, sometimes two letters will be side by side when they shouldnt and that is because my finges hit both keys at once.
I CANT HELP MY TYPING PROBLEMS BUT YOUR HUSBAND CAN HELP HIS LYING.
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KayMarie
sorry, but I dont make friends with teh devil and his followers.

like you ,who even tho you knew of my physical problems typing still chose to mock them.

SO KAY, THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES OF THE TYPE OF CHARACTER THAT YOU POSSESS. i WOULD SOONER SLEEP WITH A RATTLESNAKE THAN BE FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND HIM, TO BE HONEST.

JUST WHY DOES ANTHONY CALL YOU AND HIM ANANIAS AND SAPHRIRA? HE HAD TO HAVE A GOOD REASON. AND THO HE AND I HAVE DISAGREED FOR 4 YEARS, HE CALLS YOUR HUSBAND A COWARD AND SAYS THAT AT LEAST, I CORRECTLY USE THE SCRIPTURES TO BOLSTER MY POV.

and you are lying because almost everytime that mr fraud comes on here, his first few post that he makes will include one that attacks me, this has been his history.

SEE THIS;
{several times I have tried to reach out to him but was rebuffed,}

which that is okay, it makes this forum more interesting since I Preach the Truth on here and he lies constantly.
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I don't think anyone ever believed Dec 25th was Jesus actual Birthday.
As for your other claims...
The Church had the authority to change the Sabbath, because Jesus gave them the Authority.
Sunday was set aside from the earliest possible beginnings of the Church. So people in various cults like SDAs, are in effect, changing what the Apostles clearly taught.
Clay says......

The Church had the authority to change the Sabbath, because Jesus gave them the Authority.

Michael says.......where is it written that Jesus gave the church the authority to change the sabbath? What was the purpose to change the sabbath. Everyone seemed quite happy with the sabbath as it was. as everyone back in the day all back through the OT rested and worshipped on saturday.

The sabbath was changed because christianity took the JEW OUT OF JESUS.

Everything in a jewish way about this man was stripped away from him. Jesus has been made into FRANKEN-JESUS from bits and parts of western world culture including statues and pictures that depict him as a westerner not a middle easterner.

1) Jesus and the rest of the jews worshipped/rested on saturday.
2) Constantine a SUN-GOD worshipper was given the right to change the day of worship to SUN-DAY SUNDAY that to allow him to bring along his pagan tradition.

2) Jews pray with their hands by their sides or back and chant.
Christians changed that to praying with hands at the front and no chanting. Why? They don't want Jesus to be remembered as a Jew.

3) Jewish men wear hats (yamicas) worshipping
Catholic men NO hats allowed worshipping.

4) Jewish women NO HATS worshipping.
Catholic women DO WEAR hats worshipping.

Christianity has squeezed all the JEW out of Jesus and created a man that belongs to them and is not seen as a Jew anymore even though being born in Jerusulem to a jewish family/culture would make you always a Jew no matter if you changed your belief or not.

Its all obvious....

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YOUR POST IS SO SCREWED UP THAT i CANT RETURN A REPLY ANY OTHER WAY.
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PLEASE SHOW ME THE MESSAGE WERE I EVER SAID I WISH YOU DEAD PRESTON!!! I have never said that about anyone on here or in my life connections.
to say that about me is a lie Preston you are lying now yourself.
ME;
YOU ATTACKED ME YET SAID NOT ONE WORD ABOUT THEM ATTACKING ME FIRST.
I suppose that you think it is ok for {{{a false prophet like orville to wish me dead.}}} I mean that is godly talk, isnt it?
now put your glasses on and read that last sentance and I used quotation marks to help you see it better.
THIS ARGUMENT STARTED BECAUSE ORVILLE LIED ABOUT JESUS NOT PAYING ANY TAXES AND EVER SINCE HE HAS TAKEN EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO HINDER ME INCLUDING LYING CONSTANTLY,
AND I DEFEND MYSELF.
anyway live and learn. I am not like you, when i say something, I can prove it.
AGAIN FOR YOU TO READ.
I suppose that you think it is ok for {{{a false prophet like orville to wish me dead.}}} I mean that is godly talk, isnt it?
HOW IN THE WORLD COULD YOU OR ANYONE ELSE MISS THAT STATEMENT? IT WAS THE LAST ONE ON THAT POST
LTM, I WENT LOOKING FOR THE POST THAT WAS MADE BY orville AND YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU WERE NEVER MENTIONED, NOW LETS FIND OUT HOW MUCH OF GOD THAT YOU HAVE IN YOU

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Saturday Nov 10 <quoted text>I just petioned to Holy God to remove your evil irk from this earth.


and for this character, you broke your word and our covenant, but not only ours, but God also witnessed it.

you SOLD YOUR SOUL FOR A MORSEL OF GARBAGE.

Better is it that thou shouldest not vow, than that thou shouldest vow and not pay.

you might and will have your payday someday,and then you will find out, why Jesus appeared to me back in 1965,and why my grandfather came back to life to tell me that God had a job for me to do.

you touched and you will pay.

Saying, Touch not my anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
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<quoted text>you wer proven to be afake along time ago, and tho I dont reccomend it, all aperson ahs to do is google "yadahim" to find out what apervert taht you are.
also, he is lying, he is and does belong to the sda.
Christians dont celebrate Saturday as our Day of Rest. God gave that day for the Israelites as everybody knows.
Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, since He cried out on that Cross,
"IT IS FINISHED".
and on that Seventh Day, His work was done and He went back to His Father, back to His Day of Rest.


Back it with Scripture.
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Clay wrote:
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I don't think anyone ever believed Dec 25th was Jesus actual Birthday.
As for your other claims...
The Church had the authority to change the Sabbath, because Jesus gave them the Authority.
Sunday was set aside from the earliest possible beginnings of the Church. So people in various cults like SDAs, are in effect, changing what the Apostles clearly taught.
Clay says......

The Church had the authority to change the Sabbath, because Jesus gave them the Authority.
Sunday was set aside from the earliest possible beginnings of the Church. So people in various cults like SDAs, are in effect, changing what the Apostles clearly taught.

What a BS! weak knee excuse to change the jewish sabbath. Why change it at all Clay.

The apostles you say!! They were nothing but a bunch of sunday afternoon illiterate fisherman, and all of a sudden they jump 20 rungs up to be scripture writers. UNBELIEVABLE!

Constantine was the strong muslce and strong arm for the early catholic church, and Constantine strong armed his way into changing the sabbath to coincide with his own pagan beliefs. He worshipped the sun-god.....which he morphed into SUN-GOD....SUN-DAY......SUNDAY worship.

The catholic fathers went right along with that because they wanted to take any remnants of the JEW out of jesus and the laws of Moses.

The conflicting part of this is that the OT is all part of the scriptures, yet the catholic church changed what was written in the OT.

something is terribly wrong!

Thank Goodness I opted out of this nonsense...

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