Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#404076 Nov 22, 2012
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey hojo, did you get the memo? We're totally toning it down on this board and going to always try to show love when sharing a thought or a truth from God hopefully:)
Good point!! Thanks Marge!! A happy and blessed Thanksgiving to you and your family!!

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#404077 Nov 22, 2012
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!!!

I am thankful for God's love,Mercy and Grace.
marge

Ames, IA

#404078 Nov 22, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes--the bible IS the word of God--however it is not the "only source of truth" that God chose to transmit His divine infallible word! It can't be because the bible "cannot interpret itself"! That why in I Tim 3:15, Paul calls the Church (not the bible) the pillar, the pinnacle foundation of the TRUTH. You keep arguing that the bible is the only and final authority. However, not only does the Bible "never say that", but the Bible tells us that the (Church) is the final authority. If you want to be faithful to the Bible, then you must be faithful and adhere to the words of Paul in Timothy and follow the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible (only) in Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church....... This is exactly why bible only Protestants have "accumulated" an inconsistent, contradicting, and conflicting "hodge-podge" of over 42,000+ Protestant denomination of confusion and chaos in their "self-interpretation, with their own self-appointed 42,000+ popes,(mis-interpreting the bible) that HAVE NEVER, nor WILL EVER agree on ANYTHING accept attacking and condemning Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church
Who's your Daddy???

Who's the head of your church???
marge

Ames, IA

#404079 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>THE PURPOSE of his reply to me was that mrs fraud lied and said that teh words of Jesus spoken on the crosss were tongues and she used other examples in the OT and at that time, the Holy Ghost was not yet given(John 7:39).
when a person has to resort to lying or deceitfulness, they lack a very important proponet of Christianity
This does not answer my question.
Clay

United States

#404080 Nov 22, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Most peole realize in other scripture the WOMAN is deifibes as a Church. In Revealtions tghere is two women One the true church the other a false chuch that commits spiritual fornication. Idescribes her to a tee and their is no other church but the RCC that fits this description. You need to let the Bible (Gods Bible) interpret itself and you will maybe be able to see for yourself.
It is by Gods word and his intepretations that we know horns are kingdoms, two candle sticks / witnesses are the old and new testaments that are a light unto the word etc.
The Bible intereprets itself period. All we are to do is watch and see who/what fits.
That's ridiculous. Show me where the Books of the Bible make such a claim?
How can you possibly teach such a thing?

Also, why on Earth would the Roman Catholic Church put Revelation in the Bible if John was describing THEM!
Do you see how illogical you are?
Do you see how you're adding to Johns book by teaching something that God does not want you to?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#404081 Nov 22, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
True, Christians in the 2nd century chose Dec 25 because the Pagans in their land were already celebrating the Sun god day. The empire was already full of festivities so Christians counter acted against the Pagans by quietly celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ at Christ's Mass.
ok so you admit the 25th is not jesus' true birth date,(historians put it around sept.) and they changed the sabbath without true devine authority,so the c.c. could not be the church of which crists speaks of or rather does not speak of,"MY CHURCH"does not translate into catholic church,or any other church.and as stated in my other post,if god is the creator of the universe his church would not be confined to one planet,it would not be a building but a universal spiritual church.it's the only thing that makes sense.gods/jesus' church would be perfect an we know for a fact there is no such thing of a perfect church on earth.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#404082 Nov 22, 2012
Live Action wrote:
<quoted text>seems everyone hates everyone....
Hi Live Action just to let you know the TRUTH I do not follow Ellen Whote nor do I belong to the SDA Church. I believe Gods people are dispersed throughout all denominations and are to read and cling to his written word only and pray for guidance from the Holy Spirit. So you know that prestons is a liar and the truth is not in him.
I was baptised in the Baptist Church for those who do not know.
Dad's side of the people within three generations where Baptist and Pentecotals and moms within three generations was Baptist and Church of Christ.

Live Action wrote:

<quoted text>with out question you have understanding more so than anyone on this thread.not because you sometimes you agree with me.but because you have common since.Yahweh bless.

Preston wrote:
not to bust your bubble, "knowhim: but this guy follows ellen white, a false prophetess, so dont be fooled by him.he aint what you think that he is.

his chuch condemms every person to hell that dont follow ellen white
Live Action

Edmond, OK

#404083 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
AND YADAHIM,(I did emember who you were)
several years ago, I made you look like the idiot that you are.
you knew me then as "Christian Rabbi"
made me look like a idiot with the understanding you have i dought it but if thats what gets you off so be it you are on the right thread....
Pope Bendadick

West Mifflin, PA

#404084 Nov 22, 2012
The Vatican is just a hotbed for child molesters.
I wonder how many of those computers in the Vatican are filled with kiddie porn.
But keep giving to the Catholic church for lawyer fees to hide these monsters.
Live Action

Edmond, OK

#404085 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
this is from another forum.
can topix police of America help stop yadahim ?????
and yadahim, since you like Hebrew so well, what am I saying?
Baroukh Ata Hachem Elohenou Melekh Aolam, Acher Kidιchanou Bιmitsvotav Vιtsivanou Al Nιtilat Yadahim
without google of course.
does it upset you that i expose your devil worshiping roman catholick church and that i know the real fathers name Yahweh and that you are still worshiping a man made god.you seem a bit full of envy.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#404086 Nov 22, 2012
Full of Love wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!!!
I am thankful for God's love,Mercy and Grace.
Happy Thanksgivings FOL I can only image what its like in the Smoky's

Since: Nov 08

usa

#404087 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
Here are some men and women who mocked God :
John Lennon (Singer):
Some years before, during his interview with an American Magazine, he said:“Christianity will end, it will disappear. I do not have to argue about that. I am certain. Jesus was ok, but his subjects were too simple, Today we are more famous than Him”(1966).
Lennon, after saying that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus Christ, was shot six times.
Tancredo Neves (President of Brazil ):
During the Presidential campaign, he said if he got 500,000 votes from his party, not even God would remove him from Presidency.
Sure he got the votes, but he got sick a day before being made President, then he died .
Cazuza (Bi-sexual Brazilian composer, singer and poet):
During A show in Canecio (Rio de Janeiro ), while smoking his cigarette, he puffed out some smoke into the air and said:“God, that’s for you.”
He died at the age of 32 of AIDS in a horrible manner.
Bon Scott (Singer)
The ex-vocalist of the AC/DC. On one of his 1979 songs he sang:“Don’t stop me, I’m going down all the way, down the highway to hell”.
On the 19th of February 1980, Bon Scott was found dead, he had been choked by his own vomit.
Today we are more famous than Him”(1966).
JETHRO:lennon never said this,it was taken out of context,i've seen the interview he stated it is like we are as famous as jesus,he ment no disrepect,the media ran with it and blew it out of proportion.he was not for what he said his shooter was so into his music he became lennon in his mind,and to complete that thought the real john lennon had to go....as for the others i don't know much about them.
Live Action

Edmond, OK

#404088 Nov 22, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Live Action just to let you know the TRUTH I do not follow Ellen Whote nor do I belong to the SDA Church. I believe Gods people are dispersed throughout all denominations and are to read and cling to his written word only and pray for guidance from the Holy Spirit. So you know that prestons is a liar and the truth is not in him.
I was baptised in the Baptist Church for those who do not know.
Dad's side of the people within three generations where Baptist and Pentecotals and moms within three generations was Baptist and Church of Christ.
Live Action wrote:
<quoted text>with out question you have understanding more so than anyone on this thread.not because you sometimes you agree with me.but because you have common since.Yahweh bless.
Preston wrote:
not to bust your bubble, "knowhim: but this guy follows ellen white, a false prophetess, so dont be fooled by him.he aint what you think that he is.
his chuch condemms every person to hell that dont follow ellen white
I can sure see he is not right.we will always be attacked because we speak of truth.through understanding that was gave to us.....because of the lives we live.righteousness begot s righteousness and the same with evil I have seen it many times that if you run with the crowd you are accepted if you turn from the world you are hated for his names sake.I wen through a divorce be cause of my religion lost everything and to this day i am still persecuted.but By following my father Yahweh I am so very blessed i have no wants or needs but only for the father to give me more understanding.their are two reasons the world will end. righteousness and evil.good and bad....and right now evil is winning..

Since: Nov 08

usa

#404089 Nov 22, 2012
Salt Lick Girl wrote:
Naturally I am Catholic and the Pope only says what God tells him thru prayer.
so god told the pope to make sure no one finds out about the child abuse? and that we are laundering money for the mafia? we are selling pieces of wood and falsly claiming that it's from jesus' cross? god told the pope to carry out the crusades and wipe out all his children who defy the church? this all came from a god that suppose to love his children?(all of us).i doubt it very very much.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#404090 Nov 22, 2012
Salt Lick Girl wrote:
Naturally I am Catholic and the Pope only says what God tells him thru prayer.
in essence,it's ok for the pope to lie to people? but if you or I lie it's a sin? obviously you have never read the true history of the church have you? you have a pope that is a criminal,would god really allow that?
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#404091 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>sorry, but your words fall on deaf ears.
when I am attacked by someone who wishes me DEAD, THAT AINT A CHRISTIAN.
AND THE WORDS THAT YOU SAID TO HOJO ARE NOT CHRIST LIKE EITHER.
I bit my tongue and didnt say something when you wrote what you did,to HOJO, and I should have.
I thought my word to you was more imporant than speaking out against the filth that you spewed.
and I found out that it wasnt. I am to stand for God and let the chips fall where they may.
pehaps you paid no attention to reggie when she said that you had crosssed the line in a previous post, and i kept silent over that too.
issues have never been the cause of me standing as i do. when a person lies and mrs fraud did as I showed you, then a Chrisitan MUST take a stand, AND YOU DIDNT SO THAT LETS YOU OUT.
Scriptures on "Lying"
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Do not lie. Do not deceive one another.(Leviticus 19:11)
No one who practices deceit will dwell in my house; no one who speaks falsely will stand in my presence.
(Psalm 101:7)
The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in men who are truthful.(Proverbs 12:22)
You destroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and deceitful men the LORD abhors.(Psalm 5:6)
Better to be poor than a liar.(Proverbs 19:22)
He whose tongue is deceitful falls into trouble.
(Proverbs 17:20)
O Lord, do not your eyes look for truth?(Jeremiah 5:3)
Truthful lips endure forever, but a lying tongue lasts only a moment.(Proverbs 12:19)
An honest answer is like a kiss on the lips.
(Proverbs 24:26)
The righteous hate what is false, but the wicked bring shame and disgrace.(Proverbs 13:5)
The integrity of the upright guides them, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity.
(Proverbs 11:3)
I hate and abhor falsehood but I love your law.
(Psalm 119:163)
A lying tongue hates those it hurts, and a flattering mouth works ruin.(Proverbs 26:28)
Friend deceives friend, and no one speaks the truth. They have taught their tongues to lie; they weary themselves with sinning.(Jeremiah 9:5)
You love evil rather than good, falsehood rather than speaking the truth.(Psalm 52:3)
Like a club or a sword or a sharp arrow is the man who gives false testimony against his neighbor.
(Proverbs 25:18)
Like a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows is a man who deceives his neighbor and says, "I was only joking!" (Proverbs 26:18-19)
Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one body.(Ephesians 4:25)
You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.(Deuteronomy 5:20)
Keep falsehood and lies far from me.(Proverbs 30:7-8)
Keep me from deceitful ways; be gracious to me through your law.(Psalm 119:29)
Whoever of you loves life and desires to see many good days, keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking lies.(Psalm 34:12-13)
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.(Matthew 12:37)
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PLEASE SHOW ME THE MESSAGE WERE I EVER SAID I WISH YOU DEAD PRESTON!!! I have never said that about anyone on here or in my life connections.
to say that about me is a lie Preston you are lying now yourself.

You and Confrinting and Orville have been back and forth about lies etc, how can I comment on them one way or the other my opinions would not matter. You all have history long before I knew you from here.
Please don't try to pull me into your arguements with them.
It has nothing to do with me.
For a grown man you really are very immature Preston, you give out a lot on critism but can't take any.
And please stop apologizing for me,.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#404092 Nov 22, 2012
Clay wrote:
That's ridiculous. Show me where the Books of the Bible make such a claim?
How can you possibly teach such a thing?
Also, why on Earth would the Roman Catholic Church put Revelation in the Bible if John was describing THEM!
Do you see how illogical you are?
Do you see how you're adding to Johns book by teaching something that God does not want you to?
Animals and their Parts
• Horse = Strength and Power in Battle Job 39:19, Psalms 147:10, Proverbs 21:31
• Dragon = Satan or his agency Isaiah 27:1;30:6, Psalm 74:13-14; Rev. 12:7-9; Ezekiel 29:3; Jeremiah 51:34
• Beast = Kingdom/government/political power Daniel 7:17, 23
• Lamb = Jesus/sacrifice John 1:29; 1 Corinthians 5:7
• Lion = Jesus/Powerful King i.e. Babylon Rev. 5:4-9, Jer. 50:43-44, Dan. 7:4,17,23
• Bear = Destructive Power / Medo Persia Proverbs 28:15, 2 Kings 2:23-24, Daniel 7:5
• Leopard = Greece Daniel 7:6
• Serpent = Satan Revelation 12:9; 20:2
• Tongue = Language / Speech Exodus 4:10
• Wolf = Disguised Enemies Matthew 7:15
• Dove = Holy Spirit Mark 1:10
• Ram = Medo Persia Daniel 8:20
• Goat = Greece Daniel 8:21
• Horn = King or kingdom Daniel 7:24; 8:5, 21, 22; Zechariah 1:18, 19; Revelation 17:12
• Wings = Speed / Protection / Deliverance Deuteronomy 28:49, Matthew 23:37
Colors
• White = Purity Revelation 19:8
• Blue = Law Numbers 15:38-41
• Purple = Royalty Mark 15:17, Judges 8:26
• Red/Scarlet = Sin/corruption Isaiah 1:18; Nahum 2:3; Revelation 17:1-4
Metals, Elements, and Natural Objects
• Gold = Pure Character Precious and Rare Isaiah 13:12
• Silver = Pure Words & Understanding Proverbs 2:4, 3:13-14, 10:20, 25:11, Psalms 12:6
• Brass, Tin, Iron, Lead, Silver dross = Impure Character Ezekiel 22:20-21
• Water = Holy Spirit / Everlasting Life John 7:39, 4:14, Rev. 22:17, Eph. 5:26
• Waters = Inhabited area/people, nations Revelation 17:15
• Fire = Holy Spirit Luke 3:16
• Tree = Cross; People / Nation Deut. 21:22-23, Psalm 92:12, 37:35,
• Seed = Descendants / Jesus Romans 9:8, Galatians 3:16
• Fruit = Works / Actions Galatians 5:22
• Fig Tree = A Nation that should bear fruit Luke 13:6-9
• Vineyard = Church that should bear fruit Luke 20:9-16
• Field = World Matthew 13:38, John 4:35
• Harvest = End of World Matthew 13:39
• Reapers = Angels Matthew 13:39
• Thorns / Thorny Ground = Cares of this life Mark 4:18-19
• Stars=Angels/messengers = Revelation 1:16, 20; 12:4, 7-9; Job 38:7
• Jordan = death Romans 6:4, Deuteronomy 4:22
• Mountains = Political or religio-political powers Isaiah 2:2, 3; Jeremiah 17:3; 31:23; 51:24, 25; Ezekiel 17:22, 23; Daniel 2:35, 44, 45
• Rock = Jesus/truth 1 Corinthians 10:4; Isaiah 8:13, 14; Romans 9:33; Matthew 7:24
• Sun = Jesus/the gospel Psalm 84:11; Malachi 4:2; Matthew 17:2; John 8:12; 9:5
• Winds=Strife/commotion/"w inds of war"Jeremiah 25:31-33; 49:36, 37; 4:11-13; Zechariah 7:14
Miscellaneous Objects
• Lamp = Word of God Psalm 119:105
• Oil = Holy Spirit Zechariah 4:2-6; Revelation 4:5
• Sword = Word of God Ephesians 6:17; Hebrews 4:12
• Bread = Word of God John 6:35, 51, 52, 63
• Wine=blood/covenant/doctrines Luke 5:37
• Honey = happy life Ezekiel 20:6, Deuteronomy 8:8-9
• Clothing = Character Isaiah 64:6, Isaiah 59:6
• Crown = A Glorious Ruler or Rulership Proverbs 16:31, Isaiah 28:5, Isaiah 62:3
• Ring = Authority Genesis 41:42-43, Esther 3:10-11
continued
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#404093 Nov 22, 2012
continued to clay

• Angel = Messenger Daniel 8:16; 9:21; Luke 1:19, 26; Hebrews 1:14
• Babylon = apostasy/confusion/rebellion Gen. 10:8-10; 11:6-9; Rev. 18:2, 3; 17:1-5
• Mark = Sign or seal of approval or disapproval Ezekiel 9:4; Romans 4:11; Revelation 13:17; 14:9-11; 7:2, 3
• Seal = Sign or mark of approval or disapproval Romans 4:11; Revelation 7:2, 3
• White Robes=Victory/righteousness Revelation 19:8; 3:5; 7:14
• Jar / Vessel=Person ,Jeremiah 18:1-4, 2 Corinthians 4:7
• Time = 360 Day Daniel 4:16, 23, 25, 32; 7:25; Daniel 11:13 margin
• Times = 720 Days Daniel 7:25, Revelation 12:6,14, 13:5
• Day = Literal year Ezekiel 4:6; Numbers 14:34
• Trumpet = loud warning of God's approach Exodus 19:16-17, Joshua 6:4-5.
. Ships= Commerce,trade,economics Psalms 107:23,Proverbs 31:14,Isaiah 60:9
Actions, Activities, and Physical States
• Healing = Salvation Luke 5:23-24
• Leprosy / Sickness = Sin Luke 5:23-24
• Famine = Dearth of Truth Amos 8:11
People and Body Parts
• Woman, Pure = True Church Jeremiah 6:2; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:23-27
• Woman, Corrupt = Apostate church -Ezekiel 16:15-58; 23:2-21; Hos. 2:5; 3:1; Rev. 14:4
• Thief = Suddenness of Jesus' coming 1 Thessalonians 5:2-4; 2 Peter 3:10
• Hand = Deeds / Works / Actions Ecclesiastes 9:10, Isaiah 59:6
• Forehead = Mind Deuteronomy 6:6-8, Romans 7:25; Ezekiel 3:8, 9
• Feet = Your Walk / Direction Genesis 19:2, Psalm 119:105
• Eyes = Spiritual Discernment Matthew 13:10-17, 1 John 2:11
• Skin = Christ's righteousness Exodus 12:5, 1 Peter 1:19, Isaiah 1:4-6
• Harlot = Apostate church/religion Isaiah 1:21-27; Jeremiah 3:1-3; 6-9
• Heads = Major powers/rulers/governments Revelation 17:3, 9, 10
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Clay

United States

#404094 Nov 22, 2012
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>ok so you admit the 25th is not jesus' true birth date,(historians put it around sept.) and they changed the sabbath without true devine authority,so the c.c. could not be the church of which crists speaks of or rather does not speak of,"MY CHURCH"does not translate into catholic church,or any other church.and as stated in my other post,if god is the creator of the universe his church would not be confined to one planet,it would not be a building but a universal spiritual church.it's the only thing that makes sense.gods/jesus' church would be perfect an we know for a fact there is no such thing of a perfect church on earth.
I don't think anyone ever believed Dec 25th was Jesus actual Birthday.

As for your other claims...
The Church had the authority to change the Sabbath, because Jesus gave them the Authority.
Sunday was set aside from the earliest possible beginnings of the Church. So people in various cults like SDAs, are in effect, changing what the Apostles clearly taught.
preston

Waverly, OH

#404095 Nov 22, 2012
Live Action wrote:
<quoted text>I can sure see he is not right.we will always be attacked because we speak of truth.through understanding that was gave to us.....because of the lives we live.righteousness begot s righteousness and the same with evil I have seen it many times that if you run with the crowd you are accepted if you turn from the world you are hated for his names sake.I wen through a divorce be cause of my religion lost everything and to this day i am still persecuted.but By following my father Yahweh I am so very blessed i have no wants or needs but only for the father to give me more understanding.their are two reasons the world will end. righteousness and evil.good and bad....and right now evil is winning..
you wer proven to be afake along time ago, and tho I dont reccomend it, all aperson ahs to do is google "yadahim" to find out what apervert taht you are.

also, he is lying, he is and does belong to the sda.

Christians dont celebrate Saturday as our Day of Rest. God gave that day for the Israelites as everybody knows.

Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, since He cried out on that Cross,

"IT IS FINISHED".

and on that Seventh Day, His work was done and He went back to His Father, back to His Day of Rest.

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