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ltm

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#404053 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
when I need prayer,I go to those people who can approach the throne of Grace, not hypocrites, like you LTM
which is why God has touched this old body several times(that orville has mocked btw).
and when I had to go, God had already went ahead of me.
Tommy had already had a vision of me having that blockage and it being removed by God.
bub stopped by the other day and told me that God had sent him to Pray for my shingles(at no time did I ask one person of this forum to pray for me about them)and NOW THE PAIN HAS LESSENED TREMENDOUSLY.
if i am this evil, why is God helping me out SO MUCH?
and why are you sufferring so much?LTM and why is mrs fraud having to go back so often. when God healed my heart, I havent been back to the doctor since.
Preston, I am very glad you were healed,I don't think you are evil either.
I do think you have issues Preston, because unless people agree with you according to you they are stupid idiots, or lairs. No one agrees with everyone on all issues, because everyone is different and have their own thoughts and feelings about things.
Men and woman are different our emotions work different Preston.
Your Knowledge on the Bible is wonderful , but on the name calling and you bring up issues that have been discussed many times over is what I don't agree with Preston, its like beating a dead horse again and again.
preston

Waverly, OH

#404054 Nov 22, 2012
just a warning, dont google his name or you will be sorry, filth is what you will find. I leanred that some time ago,

he is worse that Orville ever thought about being.

in fact orville is a saint compared to him
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404055 Nov 22, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Michael you have added so much to this forum,a lot of challenging on our mindsets which can become complacent at times,but nevertheless we need to be alerted to our apathy at times,and people like you Michael stir us to sobriety.I hope you enjoy your sons this thanksgiving,eat wisely,and watch the football games,there are three that I know of.I am glad it is not the BEARS,because they are doing so poorly this season.
Even the Packers are having a rough time.But enjoy your time with the family!
DAN.
Thanks Dan!

I will be watching football. I have two adult sons and one adult daughter. I get all the stations you guys get. The closet american team to us are the Bills. We know how they have started off poorly.

Our canadian football league final comes up this sunday in Toronto East versus West. The Grey Cup......100th anniversary.

Our thanksgiving was back in October, but I could sure go for some turkey/stuffing today.(lol)

Happy thanksgiving to you and your family.

ps I will rack my brain to see what controversial topics I can bring up for the rest of the week that will stir the pot up.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#404056 Nov 22, 2012
Doctor REALITY wrote:
The only 'TRUE' church is each and every member of the body of Christ who has trusted in Him,and Him alone,for forgivness of their sins and salvation of their souls!!!
A powerful truth that every believer needs to ponder on,rather than just to quickly agree with.There is much to be said about that wonderful born-again experience Jesus spoke of in the third chapter of John.If Nicodemus a Pharisee,and a priest in the Jewish court needed it,so do I.Jesus never tells us we need something just to give us a burden that we cannot carry,but He gives us that which we can bear.Being born of His spirit enters our life into His,and we need to meditate on that.

We are the church,it is not a building. We agree on this one reality.God bless you and yours this holiday,and eat healthy!
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404057 Nov 22, 2012
ltm wrote:
<quoted text>
Preston, I am very glad you were healed,I don't think you are evil either.
I do think you have issues Preston, because unless people agree with you according to you they are stupid idiots, or lairs. No one agrees with everyone on all issues, because everyone is different and have their own thoughts and feelings about things.
Men and woman are different our emotions work different Preston.
Your Knowledge on the Bible is wonderful , but on the name calling and you bring up issues that have been discussed many times over is what I don't agree with Preston, its like beating a dead horse again and again.
Exactly what I was going to post.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#404058 Nov 22, 2012
4GVN wrote:
LTM,looks like it s your turn. The nut case has got to b attackng someone.........It is his 'CHRISTIAN' duty. What a pathetic excuse for a christian, let alone a 'preacher'.
Hope you and your family will be happy and enjoy that wonderful meal together.We all have our HOPE in Christ and looking forward to His Coming. I have to work today,but a free meal is there,and a sensible one,we will not be able to gorge. Take care! DAN.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#404059 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>HOJO, I want to apologize for the words that LTM said to you. those words came from her heart but they never came in the form of a righteous person debating their faith.
hopefully she will come to the realization that she was wrong, but with the crowd that is now backing her, I sincerely doubt it.
Thanks preston!! A happy and blessed Thanksgiving, this day,to you and your family.
HoJO, I don't want you to think that Preston speaks for me in anyway and when he apologizes for me it really isn't heart felt on his part.
I do hope you have a great Thanksgiving, but only the true word of God is going to satisfy the hunger in your soul.
The catholic church is feed you a water down doctrine it is a tradition the catholic church made up and it is garbage and you are devouring every bite of it.
I will not apologize for saying that because it is true.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404060 Nov 22, 2012
Live Action wrote:
<quoted text>seems everyone hates everyone....
Were all just play acting. At the end of the day we all go out for a beer with each other.

Do you not believe me?(lol)

preston

Waverly, OH

#404061 Nov 22, 2012
ltm wrote:
<quoted text>
Preston, I am very glad you were healed,I don't think you are evil either.
I do think you have issues Preston, because unless people agree with you according to you they are stupid idiots, or lairs. No one agrees with everyone on all issues, because everyone is different and have their own thoughts and feelings about things.
Men and woman are different our emotions work different Preston.
Your Knowledge on the Bible is wonderful , but on the name calling and you bring up issues that have been discussed many times over is what I don't agree with Preston, its like beating a dead horse again and again.
sorry, but your words fall on deaf ears.

when I am attacked by someone who wishes me DEAD, THAT AINT A CHRISTIAN.

AND THE WORDS THAT YOU SAID TO HOJO ARE NOT CHRIST LIKE EITHER.

I bit my tongue and didnt say something when you wrote what you did,to HOJO, and I should have.

I thought my word to you was more imporant than speaking out against the filth that you spewed.

and I found out that it wasnt. I am to stand for God and let the chips fall where they may.

pehaps you paid no attention to reggie when she said that you had crosssed the line in a previous post, and i kept silent over that too.

issues have never been the cause of me standing as i do. when a person lies and mrs fraud did as I showed you, then a Chrisitan MUST take a stand, AND YOU DIDNT SO THAT LETS YOU OUT.

Scriptures on "Lying"
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Communication
Slander
Truth
Do not lie. Do not deceive one another.(Leviticus 19:11)
No one who practices deceit will dwell in my house; no one who speaks falsely will stand in my presence.
(Psalm 101:7)
The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in men who are truthful.(Proverbs 12:22)
You destroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and deceitful men the LORD abhors.(Psalm 5:6)
Better to be poor than a liar.(Proverbs 19:22)
He whose tongue is deceitful falls into trouble.
(Proverbs 17:20)
O Lord, do not your eyes look for truth?(Jeremiah 5:3)
Truthful lips endure forever, but a lying tongue lasts only a moment.(Proverbs 12:19)
An honest answer is like a kiss on the lips.
(Proverbs 24:26)
The righteous hate what is false, but the wicked bring shame and disgrace.(Proverbs 13:5)
The integrity of the upright guides them, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity.
(Proverbs 11:3)
I hate and abhor falsehood but I love your law.
(Psalm 119:163)
A lying tongue hates those it hurts, and a flattering mouth works ruin.(Proverbs 26:28)
Friend deceives friend, and no one speaks the truth. They have taught their tongues to lie; they weary themselves with sinning.(Jeremiah 9:5)
You love evil rather than good, falsehood rather than speaking the truth.(Psalm 52:3)
Like a club or a sword or a sharp arrow is the man who gives false testimony against his neighbor.
(Proverbs 25:18)
Like a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows is a man who deceives his neighbor and says, "I was only joking!" (Proverbs 26:18-19)
Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one body.(Ephesians 4:25)
You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.(Deuteronomy 5:20)
Keep falsehood and lies far from me.(Proverbs 30:7-8)
Keep me from deceitful ways; be gracious to me through your law.(Psalm 119:29)
Whoever of you loves life and desires to see many good days, keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking lies.(Psalm 34:12-13)
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.(Matthew 12:37)
**Copyright, 2002, Brian Campbell (Permission is granted to copy for personal use only.)

preston

Waverly, OH

#404062 Nov 22, 2012
Scriptures on "Lying"
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See Also:

Communication
Slander
Truth
Do not lie. Do not deceive one another.(Leviticus 19:11)
No one who practices deceit will dwell in my house; no one who speaks falsely will stand in my presence.
(Psalm 101:7)
The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in men who are truthful.(Proverbs 12:22)
You destroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and deceitful men the LORD abhors.(Psalm 5:6)
Better to be poor than a liar.(Proverbs 19:22)
He whose tongue is deceitful falls into trouble.
(Proverbs 17:20)
O Lord, do not your eyes look for truth?(Jeremiah 5:3)
Truthful lips endure forever, but a lying tongue lasts only a moment.(Proverbs 12:19)
An honest answer is like a kiss on the lips.
(Proverbs 24:26)
The righteous hate what is false, but the wicked bring shame and disgrace.(Proverbs 13:5)
The integrity of the upright guides them, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity.
(Proverbs 11:3)
I hate and abhor falsehood but I love your law.
(Psalm 119:163)
A lying tongue hates those it hurts, and a flattering mouth works ruin.(Proverbs 26:28)
Friend deceives friend, and no one speaks the truth. They have taught their tongues to lie; they weary themselves with sinning.(Jeremiah 9:5)
You love evil rather than good, falsehood rather than speaking the truth.(Psalm 52:3)
Like a club or a sword or a sharp arrow is the man who gives false testimony against his neighbor.
(Proverbs 25:18)
Like a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows is a man who deceives his neighbor and says, "I was only joking!" (Proverbs 26:18-19)
Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one body.(Ephesians 4:25)
You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.(Deuteronomy 5:20)
Keep falsehood and lies far from me.(Proverbs 30:7-8)
Keep me from deceitful ways; be gracious to me through your law.(Psalm 119:29)
Whoever of you loves life and desires to see many good days, keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking lies.(Psalm 34:12-13)
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.(Matthew 12:37)
**Copyright, 2002, Brian Campbell (Permission is granted to copy for personal use only.)

Pad

Rockford, IL

#404063 Nov 22, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks Dan!
I will be watching football. I have two adult sons and one adult daughter. I get all the stations you guys get. The closet american team to us are the Bills. We know how they have started off poorly.
Our canadian football league final comes up this sunday in Toronto East versus West. The Grey Cup......100th anniversary.
Our thanksgiving was back in October, but I could sure go for some turkey/stuffing today.(lol)
Happy thanksgiving to you and your family.
ps I will rack my brain to see what controversial topics I can bring up for the rest of the week that will stir the pot up.
I'm sure you will.LOL.
Interesting that the Canadians celebrate TG in October,I didn't know that.

If you ever watch EWTN,on JOURNEY HOME with Marcus Brodi,he interviews a very intelligent young man named BRAD SWEET from Nova Scotia,he is a priest.The young priest has had a wonderful career in your Canadian Navy,until he decided to become a priest.You can watch it on youtube.com as well just put in Journey Home EWTN.

Take Care!
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404064 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>sorry, but your words fall on deaf ears.
when I am attacked by someone who wishes me DEAD, THAT AINT A CHRISTIAN.
AND THE WORDS THAT YOU SAID TO HOJO ARE NOT CHRIST LIKE EITHER.
I bit my tongue and didnt say something when you wrote what you did,to HOJO, and I should have.
I thought my word to you was more imporant than speaking out against the filth that you spewed.
and I found out that it wasnt. I am to stand for God and let the chips fall where they may.
pehaps you paid no attention to reggie when she said that you had crosssed the line in a previous post, and i kept silent over that too.
issues have never been the cause of me standing as i do. when a person lies and mrs fraud did as I showed you, then a Chrisitan MUST take a stand, AND YOU DIDNT SO THAT LETS YOU OUT.
Scriptures on "Lying"
Email This Page To A Friend
See Also:
Communication
Slander
Truth
Do not lie. Do not deceive one another.(Leviticus 19:11)
No one who practices deceit will dwell in my house; no one who speaks falsely will stand in my presence.
(Psalm 101:7)
The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in men who are truthful.(Proverbs 12:22)
You destroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and deceitful men the LORD abhors.(Psalm 5:6)
Better to be poor than a liar.(Proverbs 19:22)
He whose tongue is deceitful falls into trouble.
(Proverbs 17:20)
O Lord, do not your eyes look for truth?(Jeremiah 5:3)
Truthful lips endure forever, but a lying tongue lasts only a moment.(Proverbs 12:19)
An honest answer is like a kiss on the lips.
(Proverbs 24:26)
The righteous hate what is false, but the wicked bring shame and disgrace.(Proverbs 13:5)
The integrity of the upright guides them, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity.
(Proverbs 11:3)
I hate and abhor falsehood but I love your law.
(Psalm 119:163)
A lying tongue hates those it hurts, and a flattering mouth works ruin.(Proverbs 26:28)
Friend deceives friend, and no one speaks the truth. They have taught their tongues to lie; they weary themselves with sinning.(Jeremiah 9:5)
You love evil rather than good, falsehood rather than speaking the truth.(Psalm 52:3)
Like a club or a sword or a sharp arrow is the man who gives false testimony against his neighbor.
(Proverbs 25:18)
Like a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows is a man who deceives his neighbor and says, "I was only joking!" (Proverbs 26:18-19)
Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one body.(Ephesians 4:25)
You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.(Deuteronomy 5:20)
Keep falsehood and lies far from me.(Proverbs 30:7-8)
Keep me from deceitful ways; be gracious to me through your law.(Psalm 119:29)
Whoever of you loves life and desires to see many good days, keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking lies.(Psalm 34:12-13)
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.(Matthew 12:37)
**Copyright, 2002, Brian Campbell (Permission is granted to copy for personal use only.)
Preston says to LTM.....sorry, but your words fall on deaf ears.

Michael says....no they didn't. I heard them!
preston

Waverly, OH

#404065 Nov 22, 2012
LTM wrote:
preston wrote:
<quoted text>HOJO, I want to apologize for the words that LTM said to you. those words came from her heart but they never came in the form of a righteous person debating their faith.
hopefully she will come to the realization that she was wrong, but with the crowd that is now backing her, I sincerely doubt it.
Thanks preston!! A happy and blessed Thanksgiving, this day,to you and your family.
HoJO, I don't want you to think that Preston speaks for me in anyway and when he apologizes for me it really isn't heart felt on his part.
I do hope you have a great Thanksgiving, but only the true word of God is going to satisfy the hunger in your soul.
The catholic church is feed you a water down doctrine it is a tradition the catholic church made up and it is garbage and you are devouring every bite of it.
I will not apologize for saying that because it is true.
i WOULD NEVER PRESUME TO SPEAK FOR YOU.

I am much to intelligent to lower myself to your level.

I apologized to HOJO because I felt that is what God would have me to do, since you havent nor did you in this reply.

it was filthy and I dont know just how a person would apologize for what you said,

but you should at least try.I am cetain that he would like that gesture.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#404066 Nov 22, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Its all baloney, and I will prove it. If God is not happy with me and the protestants than I ask God right now, to strike us dead right this minute!
57, 58, 59 , 1.00 were all still here! Sorry
Busted!
Dangerous talk Michael.
marge

Ames, IA

#404067 Nov 22, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>I did read your responses to my post about Jesus and the unknown tongues.I do not consider the Aramaic or Hebrew spoken from the Cross to be unknown tongues,so with that I will agree with you.Hope you and your family will be happy together and enjoy this holiday. DAN.
I don't consider them unknown tongues either but none the less 'tongues' as the language is not understood by all. I thought we'd agreed that was what the gifts of tongues were, understanding other languages.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404068 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>sorry, but your words fall on deaf ears.
when I am attacked by someone who wishes me DEAD, THAT AINT A CHRISTIAN.
AND THE WORDS THAT YOU SAID TO HOJO ARE NOT CHRIST LIKE EITHER.
I bit my tongue and didnt say something when you wrote what you did,to HOJO, and I should have.
I thought my word to you was more imporant than speaking out against the filth that you spewed.
and I found out that it wasnt. I am to stand for God and let the chips fall where they may.
pehaps you paid no attention to reggie when she said that you had crosssed the line in a previous post, and i kept silent over that too.
issues have never been the cause of me standing as i do. when a person lies and mrs fraud did as I showed you, then a Chrisitan MUST take a stand, AND YOU DIDNT SO THAT LETS YOU OUT.
Scriptures on "Lying"
Email This Page To A Friend
See Also:
Communication
Slander
Truth
Do not lie. Do not deceive one another.(Leviticus 19:11)
No one who practices deceit will dwell in my house; no one who speaks falsely will stand in my presence.
(Psalm 101:7)
The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in men who are truthful.(Proverbs 12:22)
You destroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and deceitful men the LORD abhors.(Psalm 5:6)
Better to be poor than a liar.(Proverbs 19:22)
He whose tongue is deceitful falls into trouble.
(Proverbs 17:20)
O Lord, do not your eyes look for truth?(Jeremiah 5:3)
Truthful lips endure forever, but a lying tongue lasts only a moment.(Proverbs 12:19)
An honest answer is like a kiss on the lips.
(Proverbs 24:26)
The righteous hate what is false, but the wicked bring shame and disgrace.(Proverbs 13:5)
The integrity of the upright guides them, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity.
(Proverbs 11:3)
I hate and abhor falsehood but I love your law.
(Psalm 119:163)
A lying tongue hates those it hurts, and a flattering mouth works ruin.(Proverbs 26:28)
Friend deceives friend, and no one speaks the truth. They have taught their tongues to lie; they weary themselves with sinning.(Jeremiah 9:5)
You love evil rather than good, falsehood rather than speaking the truth.(Psalm 52:3)
Like a club or a sword or a sharp arrow is the man who gives false testimony against his neighbor.
(Proverbs 25:18)
Like a madman shooting firebrands or deadly arrows is a man who deceives his neighbor and says, "I was only joking!" (Proverbs 26:18-19)
Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one body.(Ephesians 4:25)
You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.(Deuteronomy 5:20)
Keep falsehood and lies far from me.(Proverbs 30:7-8)
Keep me from deceitful ways; be gracious to me through your law.(Psalm 119:29)
Whoever of you loves life and desires to see many good days, keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking lies.(Psalm 34:12-13)
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.(Matthew 12:37)
**Copyright, 2002, Brian Campbell (Permission is granted to copy for personal use only.)
Preston.

People in america should be able to worship or not worship anyway they want to.

You and all other religious people should be JOYFUL in celebrating the fact that you live in a secular society that ALLOWS everyone to practice THEIR religion in peace without fearing the imposition of someone else's beliefs upon them as would happen in a one religion theocracy country. You Preston are free to practice your faith anyway you like, and so is everyone else.
preston

Waverly, OH

#404069 Nov 22, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>I did read your responses to my post about Jesus and the unknown tongues.I do not consider the Aramaic or Hebrew spoken from the Cross to be unknown tongues,so with that I will agree with you.Hope you and your family will be happy together and enjoy this holiday. DAN.
Lying Spirits
October 23rd, 2012 | Author: Ron
“You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.”(Jn. 8:44)

When a lie is removed, the enemy loses the power of persuasion! Satan cannot stand in truth, because there is no truth in him. His pursuit is to kill, because he is a murderer; to steal, because he is a thief and to destroy, because he is the father of lies. No question God’s Truth matters. In fact, truth is our foundation… we must be people who embrace the truth, speak the truth and guard the truth.

Our Spiritual Gardens:

A lie does not tell itself or grow by itself. It uses the soil of the human heart. Lies are like weeds growing in the midst of other plants in the garden, but they steal resources, drain energy and choke out good growth. Also, like weeds, a good gardener(WHICH IS JUST WHAT I DID WHEN SHE LIED AND MOCKED THE WORDS OF JESUS WHILE HE WAS SUFFERING ON THE CROSS) will pull them out as quickly as they are spotted. We must be like Christ and learn to discern a lie quickly, or else it will begin to rule the garden. It will try to ”father” us.

Context:

Truth has a context and that context is Christ and Scripture. Truth is reality from God’s perspective. Perhaps that is the first and easiest contrast to draw between truth and lies. No liar wants you to put things in context or dig around at the original source! Anyone can quote a Bible verse to prove their point; but the devil, the “father” of lies aims to deceive. The devil did this with Christ by pulling truth out of context (Mt. 4:1-11)(SEE THIS MRS FRAUD).

Yet, fully equipped in the truth, Jesus boldly stated,“It is written!” Only the Words of Truth bring freedom from satanic lies. The Bible speaks of itself when it says, its alive and active like a two-edged sword that cuts between soul and spirit. Its a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the human heart (Heb. 4:12). The more we rely on the Word of Truth, the more clarity we have and the more confident we become.

Lies are Counterfeits:
preston

Waverly, OH

#404070 Nov 22, 2012
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't consider them unknown tongues either but none the less 'tongues' as the language is not understood by all. I thought we'd agreed that was what the gifts of tongues were, understanding other languages.
THE PURPOSE of his reply to me was that mrs fraud lied and said that teh words of Jesus spoken on the crosss were tongues and she used other examples in the OT and at that time, the Holy Ghost was not yet given(John 7:39).

when a person has to resort to lying or deceitfulness, they lack a very important proponet of Christianity
preston

Waverly, OH

#404071 Nov 22, 2012
and LTM, I dont usually get icons that are favorable to me but your post to me was marked by several people as being very negative towards me.lol
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404072 Nov 22, 2012
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
Dangerous talk Michael.
I live a dangerous life. What can I say.



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