Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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preston

Waverly, OH

#404009 Nov 22, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't celebrate holidays? What is your wife suppose to do if she wants to celebrate the holidays? Is she suppose to watch football with you or read?
I feel sorry for your kids. No turkey dinner, no pumpkin pie because you want to read and humbug the holidays.
In Canada its not even our thanksgiving but I am watching the Macy thanksgiving parade today.
I will bet when its your BIRTHDAY you don't read. You expect everyone to buy YOU presents, but when it comes to holidays that all americans celebrate you have an angst against it.
How american is that?
gobble gobble gobble!!
my birthday was just afew days ago, no presents(dont accept them, since I can and do buy anything that I want and I dont want much).

and since you brought it up, my wife worked over 12 hours last nigth so she will be sleeping most of the day before she goes back to work at 6:30
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#404010 Nov 22, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
What was ONCE UNDERSTOOD IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AS THE WILL OF GOD...cost the lives of millions of true Christians and it is still on their (blood guilty) hands.
If you still hold to that ...WOULD YOU NOT REPEAT THE SAME HORRIFIC THINGS THAT WERE DONE IN THE Crusades and the inquisition.?..
Are you saying the Holy spirit brought on the holocaust of the Roman Catholic Church?
Suppose you tell those that were tortured and flayed put ON THE WRACK, RAPED,MURDERED and burned at the stake
that your Church is the "ONE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH.." is still teaching the same demonic conjecture...and willing to follow it's old ways...
your rational is scary.
~~~~
1Co 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
1Co 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
1Co 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
Hmmm, I just don't see your personal take on history as being fact. Could you show me where I could read about the millions of people the Catholic Church murdered?
Or are you just going to keep lying?
preston

Waverly, OH

#404011 Nov 22, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't matter how tough you are. There is always someone tougher.
Too bad for your health, you shouldn't be criticizing others maybe thats why God has punished you.
God givith and God taketh away......right?
I must be doing something right!
there isnt an honest bone in your body, is there?

the conversation about health has been orville mocking my health.

and yeah, I have met many MEN(that leaves you out) that could and did whip me. no biggie.

but they fought a man that had usage of both arms, not like now with me only having one good arm(per se).

BTW, are you bored or something. I am supposed to be on your IGNORE LIST.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#404012 Nov 22, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
What was ONCE UNDERSTOOD IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH AS THE WILL OF GOD...cost the lives of millions of true Christians and it is still on their (blood guilty) hands.
If you still hold to that ...WOULD YOU NOT REPEAT THE SAME HORRIFIC THINGS THAT WERE DONE IN THE Crusades and the inquisition.?..
Are you saying the Holy spirit brought on the holocaust of the Roman Catholic Church?
Suppose you tell those that were tortured and flayed put ON THE WRACK, RAPED,MURDERED and burned at the stake
that your Church is the "ONE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH.." is still teaching the same demonic conjecture...and willing to follow it's old ways...
your rational is scary.
~~~~
1Co 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
1Co 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
1Co 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
BTW, I wasn't talking about the Catholic Church in my earlier post. I was talking about the Bible. You changed the meanings of scripture. Why? Was the Holy Spirit wrong before?
preston

Waverly, OH

#404013 Nov 22, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
You just need to lighten up a little and not take life so seriously. Night time TV hosts and comics make fun of religious beliefs all the time. People laugh when its not THEIR RELIGION that is being mocked, but when it is their religion they get all upset.
Relax and everything will be fine. I truly believe that Confrint. and KayMarie are good people. They might not like my way of thinking but I don't believe they are hateful towards me.
Get back on track.......and take care of your health, and don't take my sense of humor too seriously.
GOOD PEOPLE DONT SIN AND LIE, WHICH IS WHAT GOD TEACHES US.

just because they meet your Criteria , doesnt mean they Meet His
preston

Waverly, OH

#404014 Nov 22, 2012
FOR YOU MIKE, EVEN THEY KNOW.

http://www.gqkidz.org/Bible-people-lie.html
Live Action

Edmond, OK

#404015 Nov 22, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>
Because of her traditions that is why the Bible refers to her the RCC as the Harlot and her daughters (protestant church's keeping her traditions) That is why It Is Written "Come Out Of Her My People"
Are you one of Gods people HOJO ?
I do so believe the part about come out of her....

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#404016 Nov 22, 2012
All yall go to he11! Leave the Catholic Church alone and we wont post sh!t about your church, deal?
Sickened by the Borgias

UK

#404017 Nov 22, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW, I wasn't talking about the Catholic Church in my earlier post. I was talking about the Bible. You changed the meanings of scripture. Why? Was the Holy Spirit wrong before?

C - Contaminated
L - Lascivious
A - Asinine
Y - Yob

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#404019 Nov 22, 2012
who="Clay"
Are you saying, Kay, that you worship the Bible?
Are you calling Paul's letters to the Church @ Corinth, JESUS?
That is insanity.
You people have done so much damage to sacred scripture its sickening.

**********

I said "BIBLE", Clay, not "Pauline Epistles". However, the CC claims to have given us the Bible. If they didn't approve Paul, WHY did they include him???

Peter, who is supposed to be your leader, said that all scripture was given by God, written as He inspired it. Peter said that, Our BELOVED brother, Paul...wrote of many things HARD TO UNDERSTAND which unstable souls wrest (twist) TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.

Peter spoke honorably of Paul. I don't trust those who discredit either of them.

I worship God/Jesus, Who IS the Word of God. What He says, not what somebody SAYS that He says... I don't know whether is it still their stand, but at one time they told their people that reading the Word was dangerous; only the priest could interpret it.

Read your Bible, Clay. Let IT be your guide. Scripture says that ALL the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are in HIM (the Word). It reveals things past our knowledge. The meaning of ten names in one chapter of the Old Testament reveal the gospel story before Jesus is mentioned. Our knowledge/understanding is imperfect, but He brings us to understanding if we seek Him.

Ask
Seek See the 'ASK'
Knock

KayMarie
Live Action

Edmond, OK

#404020 Nov 22, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Live Action" With another Pagan holiday around the corner one the cerebrates. the murder of over 12 million natives.It is a time to give thanks.well everyday is time to give thanks.Sheeple are pagan and don't even know it.
no where in the scripture does it ever mention a holiday. it does tell you to keep his feast days and his sabbath.only a very few do.
we have been lied to by the roman catholick church every church for that matter.the world is sick along with the people I give thanks for the creator Yahweh for the understanding he gave me and for letting me see how evil the world really is........May father Yahweh give each and everyone of you the understanding you need and the ability to see what this church has done to the world.they have defiled the scripture added to and took away and just left many things out....And yet the united states sends out army's to change religion.to push a man made god on the world.
If the roman catholick church is the woman the beast then the united states is the evil beastly system being the hand of rome.
And the message will be preached to to world and then the end will come.
one last thing the fish comes from the god of dagon the pope wears it and it is on many cars and trucks and many business cards.how brain washed is the world.
**********
Thanksgiving is a PAGAN holiday? You don't sound very thankful...so I guess that explains it.
The closer I get to God, the more He shows me the greatness of His world and people. If all you see is evil, you need a new picture. The evil will pass away.
God promoted no holidays? Do you know what 'holiday'(HOLY DAY) means?
Doesn't the Bible say that the 'unthankful' will not enter heaven?
KayMarie
brainwashed much...
Live Action

Edmond, OK

#404021 Nov 22, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text> I agree. It was mans laws the mosanic laws that was nailed to the cross that God desired mercy on and not sacrifice of ox, bulls, goats, sheep, doves etc.
Grace by no means is a liscense to sin. I believe when we are changed in the twinkling of an eye is when Gods new covenant that Christ is the mediator of and shed his blood for is implemented and God puts his commandments in out hearts to were we keep them and sin no more. We are raised incorruptable at that time. Yes you are correct we will be keeping them in heaven.
Yahweh Bless.
with out question you have understanding more so than anyone on this thread.not because you sometimes you agree with me.but because you have common since.Yahweh bless.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#404022 Nov 22, 2012
The Eucharist

Isaiah 62:8-9

The Lord has sworn by His right hand and mighty arm "I will not again give you grain to be food for your enemies, and foreigners shall not drink your wine for which you have labored; But those who garner it shall eat it and praise the Lord, and those who gather it shall drink it in the courts of my sanctuary"

Revelation 2:17
"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the Churches. To Him who conquers, I will give him some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone which no one knows accept him who receives it"

Mathew 26:26-28
Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread and blessed and broke it, and gave it to His disciples and said "Take this all of you and eat of it, for this IS MY BODY. And He took a chalice, when He had given thanks, He gave it to them saying "Drink of it all of you, for THIS IS MY BLOOD, which will be poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins".
Live Action

Edmond, OK

#404023 Nov 22, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Not sure Thanksgiving was gleaned from any Pagan Holiday. Is it a man made Holiday yes but not in connection to paganism. It is good to be Thankful to Christ for supplying our needs and blessing in this life.
Bless
Just my thoughts.
It is great to be thankful but i give thanks everyday and as for thanks giving it reminds me of the 12 million natives that were killed.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#404024 Nov 22, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
KayMarie good friend
Nicely said....
You wrote, "We try to follow lots of 'rules';"
I would add, that when we try to live up to rules of doing good, we get tangled up....
Gal 5:22-23
the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."
There is first of all love, but then a sense of joy, and not of drudgery or a heavy heart in doing God's Will.
This is why angels fly...(smile)
Robert F, first thank you for your responses to me awhile back,concerning charismatic gifts and so on.Those things are of God,and some times we best leave them alone right? But you have come such a long way.I remember when you were contemplating becoming a Muslim.Well now you are a staunch and serious minded Christian,walking in the knowledge you received so freely from the Holy Spirit of Promise.Praise God for every blessing,every revelation of truth,and every moment we have with Him who is above all.

I am excited for you Robert F. and I surely hope someday God will let us cross paths when we enter into that great and glorious Kingdom.Our titles and affiliations will be a thing of the past,we will be known as He is known,before the Wonderful Lord we longed for and will be with someday.

May God richly bless you! Christmas is around the corner,and I want to give you a tip of a very beautiful Romanian Christmas song it is called "DIN RAIUL CEL LUMINOS" sung by Ghita Munteanu,look it up in youtube.com , it is something worth listening to.

I hope that your Thanksgiving was good,and that your family is doing well.

a friend in Christ. DAN.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#404025 Nov 22, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Clay"
Are you saying, Kay, that you worship the Bible?
Are you calling Paul's letters to the Church @ Corinth, JESUS?
That is insanity.
You people have done so much damage to sacred scripture its sickening.
**********
I said "BIBLE", Clay, not "Pauline Epistles". However, the CC claims to have given us the Bible. If they didn't approve Paul, WHY did they include him???
Peter, who is supposed to be your leader, said that all scripture was given by God, written as He inspired it. Peter said that, Our BELOVED brother, Paul...wrote of many things HARD TO UNDERSTAND which unstable souls wrest (twist) TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
Peter spoke honorably of Paul. I don't trust those who discredit either of them.
I worship God/Jesus, Who IS the Word of God. What He says, not what somebody SAYS that He says... I don't know whether is it still their stand, but at one time they told their people that reading the Word was dangerous; only the priest could interpret it.
Read your Bible, Clay. Let IT be your guide. Scripture says that ALL the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are in HIM (the Word). It reveals things past our knowledge. The meaning of ten names in one chapter of the Old Testament reveal the gospel story before Jesus is mentioned. Our knowledge/understanding is imperfect, but He brings us to understanding if we seek Him.
Ask
Seek See the 'ASK'
Knock
KayMarie
I did read my Bible. A lot!

I don't come to the same conclusions about scripture as you.

Hey, are you cooking a turkey today? Or you guys going someplace else? Either way, have a happy Thanksgiving!
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#404026 Nov 22, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats what its all about.......divide yourself from others.
You're just mad because your wife is going to make you sit at the childrens table again! for thanksgiving.
I can just hear him now. Lord Bless this food thou hast prepared for me in the prescense of mine enemy.

You do know Preston blames everything on his wife and it is her FAULT !!!!

Poor Woman.
Michael

Hamilton, Canada

#404028 Nov 22, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>what you just gave me is proof on one thing.
THAT YOU ARE A LIAR, NUFF SAID.
REEMMER THAT ONE WORD HAT YOU WER GOING TO DO COCNCERNING ME.
"
IGNORED"
WRONG PRESTON!!

I posted IGNORED! to you in my post just 2.5 hrs ago. Read post #403,970.

I had to relinquish the IGNORE sign because I couldn't help myself. You are so easy to make fun of.


Its only a lie if you believe its a lie. It wasn't a lie.

Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#404029 Nov 22, 2012
Live Action wrote:
<quoted text>It is great to be thankful but i give thanks everyday and as for thanks giving it reminds me of the 12 million natives that were killed.
Are you Native? I am part. My Grandma was Ojibway. My Dad half. Me a quarter.
Anyway, Natives killed each other long before the Europeans stepped foot here. Tribes hated each other more than they hated the white man.
Read about the Iroquois from present day New York. They were notorious for capturing area lands from other Natives; enslaving and/or killing them. These guys would have eventually took over all of America doing God knows what to other tribes.

And today? Don't think for a second that the Ojibway and Souix here in MN have a friendly rivalry. They hate each other still.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#404030 Nov 22, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
Preston says.......if i am this evil, why is God helping me out SO MUCH?
Michael says......I don't even go to church, and my health is perfect and that of a 30 year old stallion. Too bad for you and your poor health. I have healthy children, grand children, 2 collector cars, money in my investments and life couldn' be better at age 63.
Why do 30,000 children starve to death everyday in our world? Why is God helping you and not them?
Why do 10,000 americans suffer and die in vehicle accidents every year? Why is God helping you and not them?
Why do thousands of pain suffering people die of cancer, lukemia, heart disease every year? Why is God not helping them but has time to help you with your trivial problems?
Its all in your head, and I just gave you the proof above.
UNBELIEVABLE!
Michael it is kind of like having with a special needs or mentaly challenged child or family member. When we have the love of Christ in us we reach out and help those with the most need. It does not mean we love our other children less because we choose to spend our time where we are most needed to help the less fortunate through this life.

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