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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 658681 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at CBC News.

Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#404227 Nov 23, 2012
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi KM something else A POPE has removed from scriptures.
Wow
Really? How?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#404228 Nov 23, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Helpful reminder indeed. However this entails all sinners under the umbrella not just the homosexuals. We have adulterers, fornicator's, idolators, lairs, thief's, murderers, etc. that all fit the bill as well.
~~~

Amen

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#404229 Nov 23, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? How?
just because your pope says his piece.... it does not Change God's word...
It time you Roman Catholics learned the truth...

this is the danger of a dictator such as your pope...

___

Jesus said..

Mat_15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

Luk_6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#404230 Nov 23, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
Today's "News":
The Pope has issued a new book about Christmas. Seems that there WERE NO ANGELS SINGING ON THE NIGHT JESUS WAS BORN.(Took him 2,000 years to 'discover' that?) Besides THAT is one item that is recorded in scripture.
Talk about 'change'!
And there are other issues...don't recall all of the review. Find it in Breaking Christian News.
KayMarie
Back after your "Thanksgiving" break of stirring up trouble and right into it again eh Kay?

I can't find your article on BCN.

BTW, can you give me book, chapter and verse where the angels are singing at Jesus's birth?

Who's really adding to scripture Kay?
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#404231 Nov 23, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
just because your pope says his piece.... it does not Change God's word...
It time you Roman Catholics learned the truth...
this is the danger of a dictator such as your pope...
___
Jesus said..
Mat_15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
Luk_6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
Your wife is back on stirring up trouble again by shaking her finger at the pope.

I guess neither you nor Kay know scripture half as good as you think you do. Maybe you could provide the book, chapter and verse where the angels are "singing" at Jesus's birth?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#404232 Nov 23, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
just because your pope says his piece.... it does not Change God's word...
It time you Roman Catholics learned the truth...
this is the danger of a dictator such as your pope...
___
Jesus said..
Mat_15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
Luk_6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
Break out of the Bondage of any and all religion...

and establish you personal relationship with God through His Son Jesus Christ our personal Lord and Savior.

___

The Bible says...Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

___

Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven?(that is, to bring Christ down from above:)

Rom 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep?(that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#404233 Nov 23, 2012
Jasher continues the story of Abram: "And it was in the fifteenth year of Abram's dwelling in the
land of Canaan, which is the seventieth year of the life of Abram (the year 1986 B.C.), and the
Lord appeared to Abram in that year and he said to him, I am the Lord who brought thee out
from Ur Chasdim to give thee this land for an inheritance. Now therefore walk before me and be
perfect and keep my commandments ... And thou shalt come to thy fathers in peace and in
good age, and the fourth generation shall return here in this land and INHERIT IT
FOREVER" (Jasher 13:17-19).
Now notice carefully! God told Abram that He would give him the land from the river of Egypt,
the Nile, to the river Euphrates -- and he then told Abram that he would die, peaceably, and in a
good old age -- but notice now! Abram would RETURN in the fourth generation, and inherit the
land FOREVER! This is a prophecy for the FUTURE! In this instance, the fourth "generation"
means 4,000 years, for a full "generation" is a thousand years in fulfillment -- one "day" (II
Pet.3:8-10). Abram was born and lived circa 2,000 B.C. Four "generations" or four thousand
years from that time brings us to circa 2000 A.D.! This is one more astonishing evidence that we
are surely living in the generation of the END TIME!

http://www.parsontom.com/books/Book%20of%20Ja...
Pad

Fishers, IN

#404234 Nov 23, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes--the bible IS the word of God--however it is not the "only source of truth" that God chose to transmit His divine infallible word! It can't be because the bible "cannot interpret itself"! That why in I Tim 3:15, Paul calls the Church (not the bible) the pillar, the pinnacle foundation of the TRUTH. You keep arguing that the bible is the only and final authority. However, not only does the Bible "never say that", but the Bible tells us that the (Church) is the final authority. If you want to be faithful to the Bible, then you must be faithful and adhere to the words of Paul in Timothy and follow the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible (only) in Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church....... This is exactly why bible only Protestants have "accumulated" an inconsistent, contradicting, and conflicting "hodge-podge" of over 42,000+ Protestant denomination of confusion and chaos in their "self-interpretation, with their own self-appointed 42,000+ popes,(mis-interpreting the bible) that HAVE NEVER, nor WILL EVER agree on ANYTHING accept attacking and condemning Jesus Christs One True Apostolic Catholic Church
Here is why your post is half right hojo.For one the Evangelicals no matter how many names they go by,are solidly one in spirit and in truth.They all believe in the Trinity:Father-Son and Holy Spirit.They all believe that human beings are sinners in need of a Savior,and that the Lord Jesus Christ gave Himself as a ransom for many,on the Cross after brutallity by both the Jewish Sanhedrin and the Roman guard who scourged His Holy Body.

Christians have for centuries put their trust in the LORD,and served with great devotion and love the SON,Who is the epitome of Mercy and GRACE.

The Roman Catholic Church is just O n e church,or organization that serves the Living Christ,and although I believe hojo that the LORD uses all believers,He has some issues with Roman Catholicism,and one of those issues is the century old production of images(statues),the building of edifices that honor and glorify saints especially Mary the Mother of our Lord Jesus.

The RCC has broken the FIRST commandment and continues to do so,so as the only interpreters of the Holy Scriptures,that is with great doubt as they clearly do not understand the First Commandment,and sought to break it forcing many in the past to buy and venerate such things,which the LORD considers part of an Abominable assent from His Commandments.

Rosary beads clearly are also a pagan practice as they follow Eastern pagan religious practices as observed by both the Hindus and Buddhists.As a matter of fact many Catholics who are high in the eschelons of office and Church Society consider being aligned with Buddhism especially as adopting their practices which although may be useful,are all counterfeits of what God want to do with His people,not using pagan elements.

The Buddhists by the way had monasteries and such long before the RCC and Orthodox,that is something which a lot of people do not realize as being a similarity that aligns Catholics with Pagan non Christian ways,taking away the Jewish roots of our faith,and aleinating us far from our Judeo-Christian roots.

The Word of God is discerned and perpetuates spiritual discovery and truth,that alone makes the Word of God,something most precious to the Holy Spirit,and not lacking in the ability to direct and even govern Christian bodies,without the totalitarian efforts of a large religious institution.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#404235 Nov 23, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? How?
LOL...I know, the ignorance that spews from them daily is nothing short of a miracle in itself. I have not read the book, but articles that start with the man in a dress and a funny hat says blah blah are par for the course for those who claim they love the Lord like LTM and KM. Dispicable people without a single speck of truth in them.

Most Protestants have the misunderstanding that whatever a Pope says even if he prefaces it with an opinion is changing the gospel. lol Yet, their ministers very very often say in my opinion, you may disagree etc. Scholarly work is of no importance.

According to at least one protestan source albeit biased against the church the Pope was merely saying that he believed the Angels spoke not sang and that it was believed that their voices were like song. He did not say it never happened nor was it in the gospel. That would be a fair statement, but since I have not seen the exact quote forgive me for not trusting secular and protestant tabloids as we have seen them so accurate so often in here. ROTFL
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#404236 Nov 23, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I somewhat agree with your post. Christianity makes no sense (on the paper).
I mean, how did it survive? If you were Christian for the first 300 yrs, you were imprisoned. If you were a Bishop or Priest, you were killed. It makes no sense that this religion could have spread throughout the world when its origin is a poor homeless man with 12 followers. By all logic (on Paper) it should have ended when this man was put to death and His closest followers ran to the hills during His trial and crucifixion.
Who would ever believe this man was the Son of God? He had nothing (on paper) to offer anyone. No triumph. No land. No wealth. No freedom from Roman Empire. Yet, people believed Him?
And then, the brutal and evil Roman Empire, who'd been killing Christians for centuries, suddenly becomes Christians themselves?
Makes no sense.
The Church He started should have crumbled long ago as well. They are still very much hated. Every tyrant had the Vatican in their scopes and sought to topple it. Napoleon kidnapped the Pope and jailed him!
The sins of the members of the Catholic Church should have crumbled it too. Even the current abuse scandal cant bring it down!
A Pope a thousand yrs ago, had an affair and committed murder. Yet, even he could not bring down the Church!
The Protestant reformation offered a 'hands free' type Christianity, with no apparent authority - other than ones private interpretation of the Bible. Still, they could not topple the Catholic Church.
Ever heard the phrase it's Not Over Til the Paper Works Done.

LOL You are Clueless.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#404237 Nov 23, 2012
who="Anthony MN"
Back after your "Thanksgiving" break of stirring up trouble and right into it again eh Kay?
I can't find your article on BCN.
BTW, can you give me book, chapter and verse where the angels are singing at Jesus's birth?
Who's really adding to scripture Kay?

**********

Easy: Luk 2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
Luk 2:9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
Luk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
Luk 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Luk 2:12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
Luk 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
Luk 2:15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.

Note verse 13. Todays BCN.

Cute...you call me Sapphira, but "I" am making trouble?

KayMarie
ReginaM

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#404238 Nov 23, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Back after your "Thanksgiving" break of stirring up trouble and right into it again eh Kay?
I can't find your article on BCN.
BTW, can you give me book, chapter and verse where the angels are singing at Jesus's birth?
Who's really adding to scripture Kay?
Hey, Anthony! Looks like the Pope is more 'bible only' than they are. Who'da thunk it! I'm looking forward to reading his book.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family!
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#404239 Nov 23, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
Back after your "Thanksgiving" break of stirring up trouble and right into it again eh Kay?
I can't find your article on BCN.
BTW, can you give me book, chapter and verse where the angels are singing at Jesus's birth?
Who's really adding to scripture Kay?
**********
Easy: Luk 2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
Luk 2:9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
Luk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
Luk 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Luk 2:12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
Luk 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
Luk 2:15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.
Note verse 13. Todays BCN.
Cute...you call me Sapphira, but "I" am making trouble?
KayMarie
The pope said the angels were not singing. My bible doesn't say they were singing. Your KJV doesn't say they were singing.

Yes, Sapphira, you are stirring up trouble.
ReginaM

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#404240 Nov 23, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
Back after your "Thanksgiving" break of stirring up trouble and right into it again eh Kay?
I can't find your article on BCN.
BTW, can you give me book, chapter and verse where the angels are singing at Jesus's birth?
Who's really adding to scripture Kay?
**********
Easy: Luk 2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
Luk 2:9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
Luk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
Luk 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Luk 2:12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
Luk 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
Luk 2:15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.
Note verse 13. Todays BCN.
Cute...you call me Sapphira, but "I" am making trouble?
KayMarie
I don't see anything about singing here. Perhaps you misunderstood Anthony's request.

According to the pope's research, there is also no evidence in the Gospels that the cattle and other animals traditionally pictured gathered around the manger were actually present.
Pope debunks Christmas myths

He also debunks the claim that angels sang at the birth, a staple theme of Christmas carols.

The book, which is being published in multiple languages in time for Christmas, is the third in a series by the pontiff. The previous two volumes dealt with Jesus' adult life and his public ministry.

Alessandro Speciale, Vatican correspondent for the Religion News Service, told CNN the pope was not so much aiming to debunk myths as trying to show that the Jesus depicted in the Gospels is a real historical figure, who walked on earth and talked to people like anyone else.

But while the book points out that the Gospels do not support the presence of animals at Jesus' birth -- a detail apparently added in later centuries -- the pope does not suggest they should be thrown out of the Nativity scene, Speciale said.

"The pope is a traditional man and he doesn't want people at all to change their traditions," Speciale said.

The Vatican quotes Anthony Valle, a professor of theology, as saying the pope has been open to scientific inquiry in his own study of Jesus' life.

"The pope is not against the historical critical method at all, in fact, he uses it, he appreciates it," Valle said.

He sees the pope as using "both faith and reason" in his efforts to bring the life of Jesus closer.

Monsignor Philip Whitmore, who translated the book into English, said the pontiff used his writing to explore "the inner meaning of the infancy narratives, showing how they pick up on Old Testament themes and develop them in new and unexpected ways."

"The pope helps us to understand the world where Jesus was born. Caesar brought peace to the Roman Empire, but this tiny child brought something much more wonderful: God's peace, eternal life, an end to sin and death," Whitmore added.

"Anyone who's wondering why Christmas came to be such a great celebration in the West can find the answer right here. The pope explains how the birth of Jesus changed history forever."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/22/world/europe/va...
ReginaM

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#404241 Nov 23, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
Back after your "Thanksgiving" break of stirring up trouble and right into it again eh Kay?
I can't find your article on BCN.
BTW, can you give me book, chapter and verse where the angels are singing at Jesus's birth?
Who's really adding to scripture Kay?
**********
Easy: Luk 2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
Luk 2:9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
Luk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
Luk 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Luk 2:12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
Luk 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Luk 2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
Luk 2:15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.
Note verse 13. Todays BCN.
Cute...you call me Sapphira, but "I" am making trouble?
KayMarie
I don't see anything about singing here. Perhaps you misunderstood Anthony's request.

According to the pope's research, there is also no evidence in the Gospels that the cattle and other animals traditionally pictured gathered around the manger were actually present.
Pope debunks Christmas myths

He also debunks the claim that angels sang at the birth, a staple theme of Christmas carols.

The book, which is being published in multiple languages in time for Christmas, is the third in a series by the pontiff. The previous two volumes dealt with Jesus' adult life and his public ministry.

Alessandro Speciale, Vatican correspondent for the Religion News Service, told CNN the pope was not so much aiming to debunk myths as trying to show that the Jesus depicted in the Gospels is a real historical figure, who walked on earth and talked to people like anyone else.

But while the book points out that the Gospels do not support the presence of animals at Jesus' birth -- a detail apparently added in later centuries -- the pope does not suggest they should be thrown out of the Nativity scene, Speciale said.

"The pope is a traditional man and he doesn't want people at all to change their traditions," Speciale said.

The Vatican quotes Anthony Valle, a professor of theology, as saying the pope has been open to scientific inquiry in his own study of Jesus' life.

"The pope is not against the historical critical method at all, in fact, he uses it, he appreciates it," Valle said.

He sees the pope as using "both faith and reason" in his efforts to bring the life of Jesus closer.

Monsignor Philip Whitmore, who translated the book into English, said the pontiff used his writing to explore "the inner meaning of the infancy narratives, showing how they pick up on Old Testament themes and develop them in new and unexpected ways."

"The pope helps us to understand the world where Jesus was born. Caesar brought peace to the Roman Empire, but this tiny child brought something much more wonderful: God's peace, eternal life, an end to sin and death," Whitmore added.

"Anyone who's wondering why Christmas came to be such a great celebration in the West can find the answer right here. The pope explains how the birth of Jesus changed history forever."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/22/world/europe/va...
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#404242 Nov 23, 2012
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL...I know, the ignorance that spews from them daily is nothing short of a miracle in itself. I have not read the book, but articles that start with the man in a dress and a funny hat says blah blah are par for the course for those who claim they love the Lord like LTM and KM. Dispicable people without a single speck of truth in them.
Most Protestants have the misunderstanding that whatever a Pope says even if he prefaces it with an opinion is changing the gospel. lol Yet, their ministers very very often say in my opinion, you may disagree etc. Scholarly work is of no importance.
According to at least one protestan source albeit biased against the church the Pope was merely saying that he believed the Angels spoke not sang and that it was believed that their voices were like song. He did not say it never happened nor was it in the gospel. That would be a fair statement, but since I have not seen the exact quote forgive me for not trusting secular and protestant tabloids as we have seen them so accurate so often in here. ROTFL
I have no problem with "Hark the Herald". I love the idea that they were singing, but it's sad to see sola scriptura protestants blasting the pope when they're following an unbiblical tradition of their own. lol. Hope you have a blessed Advent.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#404243 Nov 23, 2012
who="Anthony MN"
The pope said the angels were not singing. My bible doesn't say they were singing. Your KJV doesn't say they were singing.
Yes, Sapphira, you are stirring up trouble.

**********

So, it says PRAISING. I did have the wrong paper, however. It was Zionica.

KayMarie
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#404244 Nov 23, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Anthony! Looks like the Pope is more 'bible only' than they are. Who'da thunk it! I'm looking forward to reading his book.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family!
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well Regina, I hope your were able to celebrate in comfort. I haven't read it yet either, we'll have to discuss it afterwards. Have a blessed Advent season.
preston

Athens, OH

#404245 Nov 23, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Back after your "Thanksgiving" break of stirring up trouble and right into it again eh Kay?
I can't find your article on BCN.
BTW, can you give me book, chapter and verse where the angels are singing at Jesus's birth?
Who's really adding to scripture Kay?
it didnt take him any time to start trouble again. his first post back was ana ttack on me becaise I checked out a profile and found this poster started trouble on different forums and of course mr fraud had to say something smar.

and LTM aint smart enough to realize that these two are only here to cause stife.

as evil as those two are, they should THANK God that he hasnt punished them for their inequity
Michael

Canada

#404246 Nov 23, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
All of Christianity for the first 1,800 yrs. Including Orthodox and Protestants understood Jesus had no blood siblings. If one were to put away their modern English Bible, and transform themselves into the time period of Jesus. And read scripture if THEIR language an culture, it becomes clear as can be.
Just another example of the Born Again movements undoing of sacred scripture based on their limited and ignorant understanding.
Also, what do you care? You're an Atheist.
Clay says......

........If one were to put away their modern English Bible, and transform themselves into the time period of Jesus. And read scripture if THEIR language an culture, it becomes clear as can be.

Michael says...How does it become clear Clay? Why put away your modern english bible? Is the bible wrong when it states..

1) "brothers of Jesus sons of Mary"

2) Is the bible wrong when Paul says "JAMES THE BROTHER OF THE LORD"

3) Is the bible wrong when it states Jesus FIRST born son of Mary. That means more children.

4) Is it wrong when it says is this not the son of the carpenter and all his brothers are with us.(lol)

5) Brothers are mentioned James, Joseph, Jose, Judas,

Catholics are caught up in this perpetual virginity of mary and the only way they try and save face is to state the BIBLE IS WRONG!
Thats not good!

excuses excuses excuses!

Clay says.....

All of Christianity for the first 1,800 yrs. Including Orthodox and Protestants understood Jesus had no blood siblings.

None of these people lived when Jesus supposedly lived. If Jesus lived his entire life a JEW wouldn't the Jews know best? They lived with him.(lol)

Catholics are hell bent on this perpetual virginity of Mary and are caught up and painted into a corner.

I have never seen so many twists and turns to make the story anyway you want it to turn out the way you want it.(lol)

BUSTED!





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