No, Christianity believes in a portion of Jesus. If you were to believe in all of his teachings, then you will believe what Jesus believes, and use what he believes [as you stated - "believes the person of Jesus is our salvation]. What is the difference if I believe in his teachings, or in the person?<quoted text>
Next you write, "...Spirit [Self], and you will learn to understand that which is within us, that will bring any salvation."
This is where it breaks down. Christianity believes the person of Jesus is our salvation. You believe in learning to understand what is within us brings salvation.
BTW - Jesus taught to look within in many more ways than what is written in GoThomas and other non-canonical texts.
Oh I see, you claim to now know what makes a so-called "Christian", "Christian". And 'faith in Jesus' is the only factor?<quoted text>This second part is difficult. Just knowing and understanding(to some degree) the sayings of Jesus is not salvation. They tend to promote peace, kindness, love, which many welcome, including you(by your own words). And so you are committed to them.(To me that is a good thing as well.) But it falls short.
If "God" and Jesus wanted those attributes, and I've done these things without panning to any religious organization, why do you believe I could not achieve salvation, or in your words "fall short."
Who are you to tell me what "God" claims I fall short to?
- There's that arrogance factor again.
[QUOTE who="Robert F"]<quoted text>Seeing(Repenting)knowl edge and understanding(cause feeling good) are only half of the picture. The other half is faith. Faith in Jesus as a person makes one a Christian. You are taking the easy part of peace, kindness, and love, and leaving out the struggle, fighting..., and eventual victory in Christ.
- Well, I have to disagree, because there has been many posts - in this forum alone - that shows the many characteristics of being a "Christian" - and this is just one.
- I do have 'faith in Jesus'. Faith that his message of morals, that which you have stated above, is true. If I live by them, and they are true to me, then your classification of me has just changed. We already know that I am part of the Church, in which you seem to reject as well. Now you say I don't believe in Jesus. You are becoming quite judgmental in your supposition.
Bara Dada, "Jesus is ideal and wonderful, but you Christians -- you are not like him."
Source - Jones, E. Stanley. The Christ of the Indian Road, New York: The Abingdon Press,1925.(Page 114)"
One can agree with Jesus, as long as other people don't interfere with his message.