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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 658504 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#403780 Nov 21, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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THE POWER OF SELF..
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Jer 17:10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
THE POWER OF GOD...
Isa 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
maybe if you stay out of the Jewish texts and stay within what Jesus says.

And you aren't even Jewish.

Tsk - tsk.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#403781 Nov 21, 2012
Clay wrote:
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If a person is keeping a body count, they would see that Stalin, Hitler and Mao take the blue ribbon in killings. It could be argued that these men killed on behalf of Atheism too- or at least, Atheistic ideals.
Busted!!
~~~
Yep.... they almost murdered as many as the Roman Catholic Church did in the Crusades and the inquisition...Right?

The only difference is that Stalin, Hitler and Mao did not do it at the promptings of those that supposed to be representing Christ...In Rome ..

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#403782 Nov 21, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>What about your friend Apostle Preston who saw Jesus over Vietnam while in a Airplane. He say's he is am Apostle..........LOL
What ever he said he saw...is between him and God...

I aint going to touch that subject, and put it between him and me.
Clay

Denver, CO

#403783 Nov 21, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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Yep.... they almost murdered as many as the Roman Catholic Church did in the Crusades and the inquisition...Right?
The only difference is that Stalin, Hitler and Mao did not do it at the promptings of those that supposed to be representing Christ...In Rome ..
It would be a good idea for you (being a supposed person called by God) to research an learn about the Crusades and Inquisition. Right now you risk baring false witness. And worse, teaching the children in you Pentecostal compound lies.
Your elders lied to you guys about these events, as well as Constantines role because they feared you all knowing the truth. Now you, carry this lie on.
Michael

Canada

#403784 Nov 21, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I only care about Jesus because He promises me something??
I understand in the Atheist world its all about me me me. You only view the world as far as your personal satisfaction can allow you.
In Christianity its not about me me me at all.
I happen to love Jesus Christ and I believe through the Eucharist and Gospel I've come to know Him.
Heck, I feel like I know Him better than I know members of my own family. That's the truth.
CLAY says.......Heck, I feel like I know Him better than I know members of my own family.



Religion will teach you CLAY to fear standing up for yourself. When you practice faith instead of conscious living, you live under a cloak of fear. You fear offending God. You fear missing mass on sunday. You fear your own fear! You lose control of your own creative freedom.

I stand up for myself, and not afraid to claim I am an independant thinker. But you have allowed religion to erode your own self-trust by explaining why you're unable to successfully manage life on YOUR OWN terms.

Live in fear the rest of your life and just hope it will turn out OK in the end.

You are a perfect match for religion, if you're afraid or unwilling to assume total responsibility for your own life.



“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#403785 Nov 21, 2012
who="New Age Spiritual Leader"
No religion is needed.
We can show love, be in love, voice our love, and love getting love.
All to do with what we do and how we act toward others.
No religion is required.
Why do you think a religion is required to achieve this level of humanity?
Can't do it on your own? Do yo need help? Are you unsure?
Maybe you should speak with the the many others on this forum - as it appears they can't seem to do these simple actions either.
The power of Self - acknowledge it.

**********

You haven't proved that YOU can "show love, be in love, voice your love", or even love getting love.

KayMarie

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#403786 Nov 21, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="New Age Spiritual Leader"
No religion is needed.
We can show love, be in love, voice our love, and love getting love.
All to do with what we do and how we act toward others.
No religion is required.
Why do you think a religion is required to achieve this level of humanity?
Can't do it on your own? Do yo need help? Are you unsure?
Maybe you should speak with the the many others on this forum - as it appears they can't seem to do these simple actions either.
The power of Self - acknowledge it.
**********
You haven't proved that YOU can "show love, be in love, voice your love", or even love getting love.
KayMarie
I don't need to. I believe like you believe only "God" needs to be "proved" - as "He" is the supposed being that will judge me.

You have no say in it, even though you think your voice will affect it.

Why don't you believe Jesus?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#403787 Nov 21, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="New Age Spiritual Leader"
No religion is needed.
We can show love, be in love, voice our love, and love getting love.
All to do with what we do and how we act toward others.
No religion is required.
Why do you think a religion is required to achieve this level of humanity?
Can't do it on your own? Do yo need help? Are you unsure?
Maybe you should speak with the the many others on this forum - as it appears they can't seem to do these simple actions either.
The power of Self - acknowledge it.
**********
You haven't proved that YOU can "show love, be in love, voice your love", or even love getting love.
KayMarie
BTW - you seemed to not answer these questions either.

Care to give them a whirl?

Why do you think a religion is required to achieve this level of humanity?
Can't do it on your own? Do yo need help? Are you unsure?
preston

Athens, OH

#403788 Nov 21, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Pay no attention to my wife and myself...Our rantings are just an occupational hazard.
He only proves that God doesn't agree with what my wife and I are posting,
To him it is a plus, a good sign that we are wrong ...with our post..LOL
__
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thank you mr fraud, for one of the few times, your post is accurate and believable
Clay

Denver, CO

#403789 Nov 21, 2012
Michael wrote:
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CLAY says.......Heck, I feel like I know Him better than I know members of my own family.
Religion will teach you CLAY to fear standing up for yourself. When you practice faith instead of conscious living, you live under a cloak of fear. You fear offending God. You fear missing mass on sunday. You fear your own fear! You lose control of your own creative freedom.
I stand up for myself, and not afraid to claim I am an independant thinker. But you have allowed religion to erode your own self-trust by explaining why you're unable to successfully manage life on YOUR OWN terms.
Live in fear the rest of your life and just hope it will turn out OK in the end.
You are a perfect match for religion, if you're afraid or unwilling to assume total responsibility for your own life.
Now that you explained to me why I believe what I do, I think I understand! Lol.

Guess what mike, I march to the beat of my own drum. I don't have to be a Christian. I WANT to be a Christian. I don't have te be Catholic nor follow Catholic teachings. I WANT to be a Catholic and go to Mass.
I'm sorry you grew up thinking you were forced into it. Eventually, you made your own decision anyway. Right? Now you feel you must trash this Church every chance you get to satisfy your own personal vendetta. That's the impression I get from you.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#403790 Nov 21, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
maybe if you stay out of the Jewish texts and stay within what Jesus says.
And you aren't even Jewish.
Tsk - tsk.
~~~

How do you know I am not a Jew...You don't know me personally..

One thing for sure I don't suffer from ego mania.

If man himself could have saved man kind then Jesus died in vain.

With out Christ a man is like one stuck in quicksand and attempting to pull himself out by his boot straps.
Michael

Canada

#403791 Nov 21, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Its funny how you and other Atheist spend a great deal of time picking apart the thought of a God.
But when you guys offer an alternative theory on how we got here, you sound more absurd then any religion.
Tell us Michael, did a comet collide with Earth and lightning sparked a lifeform? Eventually evolving to present day Michaels?
Did Aliens from another galaxy plant DNA on this Earth to kick start life?
Lol the last one is my favorite, because its not too far from what Christians believe. Only the 'Alien' would be God.
Face it, its not the thought of a God that bugs you. Its the thought of this God controlling your fate; demanding for you to abide by a set of rules. Reminding you of right and wrong. Asking to be loved and worshipped. That is why you and Atheist have a problem with God. You wanna dictate your own life and do whatever you want without being held accountable when you die.
I have never been in jail. Never done illegal drugs, never abused alcohol, never divorced, obey the laws of our land, treat everyone with respect.........How many catholics/christians can claim all these things? NOT MANY!

BUSTED!

Explain to me how you got here?

Explain HOW god created the universe?

Explain where God was and what was his purpose before the universe was created?

Explain how god created the heavens and earth?

You can say he created everything but when it comes to how it was created the most important aspect you say what?

You follow a book as your reference source. A book written by men you know nothing about in a personal way.

Everything you say about God is what ONLY OTHER men have stated. If the men today operating the catholic church have been criticized for their indescretions/scandals/lies/de ceit etc. how the hell can you verify what was written in the distant past by people with the exact same agenda?

Believe what you want. If there is a loving God he created us to be independant thinkers, otherwise why wouldn't he have just done away with followers of all other beliefs and made the world catholic.

preston

Athens, OH

#403792 Nov 21, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? Where is the evidence?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bK-Dqj4fHmMXX&feature=fvw p&NR=1
guess that her post about Jesus speaking in tongues went over your haad, just like you saying that Jesus never paid any taxes
Clay

Denver, CO

#403793 Nov 21, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
It would be a good idea for you (being a supposed person called by God) to research an learn about the Crusades and Inquisition. Right now you risk baring false witness. And worse, teaching the children in you Pentecostal compound lies.
Your elders lied to you guys about these events, as well as Constantines role because they feared you all knowing the truth. Now you, carry this lie on.
And Confront, if I found out the Catholic Church has lied to me at anytime in history about the faith, i would leave it today. I promise I would stop attending Church at this moment.
The truth is, you and every other non Catholic ( although you undoubtedly experience Gods love and mercy too) need to accept lies in order for your faith to function.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#403794 Nov 21, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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How do you know I am not a Jew...You don't know me personally..
One thing for sure I don't suffer from ego mania.
If man himself could have saved man kind then Jesus died in vain.
With out Christ a man is like one stuck in quicksand and attempting to pull himself out by his boot straps.
Because you've stated you were a pastor in a Christian Church.

Have you been lying?

"If man himself could have saved man kind then Jesus died in vain."
- if man could understand that Jesus died to show that we live on through a spiritual form, instead of thinking his death was for some other purpose [the forgiveness of sins], then you would be believing and understanding what Jesus actually taught.

"With out Christ a man is like one stuck in quicksand and attempting to pull himself out by his boot straps."
- untrue and very speculative for someone who doesn't know how to take responsibility for themself.
Michael

Canada

#403795 Nov 21, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You were a former Catholic, yet you believe the Church 'exists' because we all read stories with characters in it. Thus we believe..
Then after you're done with your rant, you shout "busted".
Lol. Interesting that people tell us Catholics what we believe; why we believe; and who we believe.
Then they yell 'busted', as if they unlocked a secret of our faith....based on what they think we believe..
Believe what you want. You and other religious people are always telling non religious people that you have all the answers,you have the only key to the kingdom of heaven, we are wrong because you're book says so. but whenever anyone questions you about you're belief, you get your back up and very defensive. Why?

read slowly......if everyone agreed with your theology, this forum would have ended almost 5 years ago. The debate continues, and arguments are made from different sides. Don't you like discussions. Don't you like a challenge?

Interesting, there are almost as many former catholics on this forum than church attending catholics. Kind of mirrors whats going on in the world outside the forum wouldn't ya say?.





preston

Athens, OH

#403796 Nov 21, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
We might disagree on some theology but you are both good people.
No one should be subject to personal attacks as you have.
just to help you mike,

for several years, the first, second or third post that mr fraud would make after coming on line would be an ad hominem attack of me unti I no longer take it any more.

now if you dont appreciate that, that suits me to a tee, it hasnt taken very long for people to figure you out.

you are a disgruntled old man who has no friends so you spend your time on here going from one person to the other attacking them

just happens to be my turn this week.and let me clue you in, I am not like Hojo. you push me, old man and I will push back much harder than you ever knew from someone.

AS THE BIG FRAUD AND HIS WIFE HAVE FOUND OUT,LOL

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#403797 Nov 21, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
It would be a good idea for you (being a supposed person called by God) to research an learn about the Crusades and Inquisition. Right now you risk baring false witness. And worse, teaching the children in you Pentecostal compound lies.
Your elders lied to you guys about these events, as well as Constantines role because they feared you all knowing the truth. Now you, carry this lie on.
~~~

YOU DENY THE HOLOCAUST OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC YOUR PAGAN RELIGIOUS SOCIETY AGAINS TRUE CHRISTIANS...RIGHT ?

Do you also deny the Jewish Holocaust OF World War two..

Constantine is not consistent with the Bible Truths...

and neither are you consistent with WORLD HISTORY...

You evidently live in a state of denial...of GOD'S WORD AND WORLD

HISTORY...
Clay

Denver, CO

#403798 Nov 21, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW - you seemed to not answer these questions either.
Care to give them a whirl?
Why do you think a religion is required to achieve this level of humanity?
Can't do it on your own? Do yo need help? Are you unsure?
You can't do it on your own.
Is that really what you're trying to convince everybody? Dude, you already relied on others to bring you the gospel.
I suppose you could write your own bible and create your own religion. But if that is not Gods will for the New Ager... You're in a world of hurt shall you steer others down a false path.
Be careful..be very very careful. You best hope you are correct.
Michael

Canada

#403799 Nov 21, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
And Confront, if I found out the Catholic Church has lied to me at anytime in history about the faith, i would leave it today. I promise I would stop attending Church at this moment.
The truth is, you and every other non Catholic ( although you undoubtedly experience Gods love and mercy too) need to accept lies in order for your faith to function.
Clay says........

.........And Confront, if I found out the Catholic Church has lied to me at anytime in history about the faith,

OK! Do you believe this below from the bible?

1) Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives; and the one who seeks, finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.(Matthew 7:7-8 NAB)

2) And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain,`Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS

3) And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it.(John 14:13-14 NAB

FALLACY!

Christians say, Atheists have no morals. All one has to do is take a look at the American prison system. Nearly 77% of violent criminals are Christian and NO, most of these Christians did not convert after conviction, they were Christian at the time of the crime. The greatest genocides in human history stemmed from the Christian faith. If you examine secular societies in comparison to religious societies; secular societies will consistently have less crime, unemployment, corruption and more freedom, share of wealth and a higher standard of living. Nearly EVERY single advancement towards morality (I.E: ceasing native genocide, freeing the slaves and womenÂ’s suffrage) was OPPOSED by the church and Christian organizations.

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