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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 675489 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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44GVN

Saint Louis, MO

#403724 Nov 20, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>there is no hypocrisy in any person that stands against a sinful nature.
so your words makes no sense to anyone.lol
Theake perfect sense to any one who has sense. That is why you don't get it.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#403725 Nov 20, 2012
Grace is God's unmerited favor - His goodness toward those who have no claim on, nor reason to expect, divine favor. The principal manifestation of God's grace has heen in the form of a gift. We think the apostle meant that salvation is "the gift of God," or, as emphatically put in the Greek, "of God is it the gift." Salvation is not our achievement, but it is a gift from God. That truth is made stronger by contrast. It is 'not of ourselves' and "not of works." Salvation is indeed the most extraordinary expression of God's grace.

Salvation is of divine origin. But it is not anything that God was bound to arrange by the necessity of His nature. It is the result of His gracious will. Had it not been for His good pleasure, salvation would never have come. "By grace are ye saved." The Greek grammar denotes not the act of being saved, but the fact of having been saved. God's grace rather than human merit is the source of the whole arrangement. We are saved gratuitously. Salvation is a gift; it is not earned.

http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/fbf/grace.html

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#403726 Nov 20, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>

Next you write, "...Spirit [Self], and you will learn to understand that which is within us, that will bring any salvation."
This is where it breaks down. Christianity believes the person of Jesus is our salvation. You believe in learning to understand what is within us brings salvation.
No, Christianity believes in a portion of Jesus. If you were to believe in all of his teachings, then you will believe what Jesus believes, and use what he believes [as you stated - "believes the person of Jesus is our salvation]. What is the difference if I believe in his teachings, or in the person?

BTW - Jesus taught to look within in many more ways than what is written in GoThomas and other non-canonical texts.
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>This second part is difficult. Just knowing and understanding(to some degree) the sayings of Jesus is not salvation. They tend to promote peace, kindness, love, which many welcome, including you(by your own words). And so you are committed to them.(To me that is a good thing as well.) But it falls short.

If "God" and Jesus wanted those attributes, and I've done these things without panning to any religious organization, why do you believe I could not achieve salvation, or in your words "fall short."

Who are you to tell me what "God" claims I fall short to?
- There's that arrogance factor again.
- Rob!!!???

[QUOTE who="Robert F"]<quoted text>Seeing(Repenting)knowl edge and understanding(cause feeling good) are only half of the picture. The other half is faith. Faith in Jesus as a person makes one a Christian. You are taking the easy part of peace, kindness, and love, and leaving out the struggle, fighting..., and eventual victory in Christ.
Oh I see, you claim to now know what makes a so-called "Christian", "Christian". And 'faith in Jesus' is the only factor?
- Well, I have to disagree, because there has been many posts - in this forum alone - that shows the many characteristics of being a "Christian" - and this is just one.
- I do have 'faith in Jesus'. Faith that his message of morals, that which you have stated above, is true. If I live by them, and they are true to me, then your classification of me has just changed. We already know that I am part of the Church, in which you seem to reject as well. Now you say I don't believe in Jesus. You are becoming quite judgmental in your supposition.

Bara Dada, "Jesus is ideal and wonderful, but you Christians -- you are not like him."
Source - Jones, E. Stanley. The Christ of the Indian Road, New York: The Abingdon Press,1925.(Page 114)"

One can agree with Jesus, as long as other people don't interfere with his message.
springLoaded

AOL

#403727 Nov 20, 2012
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**END TIME WARS, ISRAEL & ANTICHRIST (*News )



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preston

Athens, OH

#403728 Nov 20, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>THANKS, I FORGOT MY PLACE.
you are a lifesaver, mr fraud might have given me a ticket.
usually I wait until I post the last thing from a source before I put the link and since you beat me to it, I guess that I was through, you party pooper.

but those verses that I used and statements are different than what you did the other night when YOU copied some guys statement of affirmation.

since you began it with the words "I affirm", which would lead a normal thinking person to believe that it is your statement.

you try your best to "one up me", but you always fail.

BTW, how is your prayer life coming?

been praying anyone dead latley?
preston

Athens, OH

#403729 Nov 20, 2012
44GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Theake perfect sense to any one who has sense. That is why you don't get it.
considering that I was the person that formed that post, chances are real good that I knew what I was saying when I said it.

and chances are that some people will not have a clue to the originality of many statements made by people much smarter than people like you who possess an IQ lower than prosimians
Clay

Denver, CO

#403730 Nov 20, 2012
Question of the day:
Who started the Catholic Church?

Every Protestant, evangelical, SDA, Jehovah's, Mormon, sect can be traced to a single person.

But the Catholic Church does not have an apparent founder.
It has long been said by desperate Protestants that the Roman Emperor Constantine founded it. But there is absolutely zero evidence that this man could have.
So He is ruled out.
So who did?
The answer is that the Catholic Church can trace their lineage to Jesus Christ and what He said to Peter that day: "Peter, you are the Rock upon which I'll build MY CHURCH, And the gates of Hell shall not prevail"
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#403731 Nov 20, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no sense of humor!
I have asked you 100 times. Give me examples of what I posted that you claim is not true?
You never do.
BUSTED!
Michael---you have posted "nothing but" overblown and exaggerated" (National Inquirer) type articles (ALL with anti-catholic "spin") to them. The "truth" to you is (again) "nothing but" lies to ALL OF US -- Catholics on this forum--who "actually" KNOW THE TRUTH!! You have so much anti-catholic hostility, hate and vengence in your life, that your mind, heart and soul has been "corrupted" with BUSTED and UNBELIEVABLE deception,--------- deceiving yourself as you "desperately and unsuccessfully" attempt to deceive others!!
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403732 Nov 20, 2012
Isaiah 8

16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar

spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people

seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this

word, it is because there is no light in them.

21 And they shall pass through it, hardly bestead and hungry: and it shall

come to pass, that when they shall be hungry, they shall fret themselves,

and curse their king and their God, and look upward.

22 And they shall look unto the earth; and behold trouble and darkness,

dimness of anguish; and they shall be driven to darkness.

Revelation 3

10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee

from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try

them that dwell upon the earth.

11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man

take thy crown.

12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and

he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and

the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down

out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the

churches.

Revelation 14:12

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the

commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

1 John 2:3 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands.

Revelation 2:13I know where you live--where Satan has his throne. Yet you

remain true to my name. You did not renounce your faith in me, even in the

days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city--

where Satan lives.

Revelation 12:17Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to

make war against the rest of her offspring--those who obey God's

commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus.

Revelation 13:10If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will

go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be

killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of

the saints.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#403733 Nov 20, 2012
Michael wrote:
<quoted text>

http://webspace.webring.com/people/up/pharsea...
This is the trend of our society. Millions of catholics have done what I have done. Walked away. Remember you walked away from your original belief.
This is just more of your anti-catholic distorted BS Michael!! Read the TRUTH about the Catholic Church and its growth:
Catholic Church shows Robust Growth
www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/catholic_chur... ....
Catholic Church Membership Growing
findarticles.com/P/articles/mi_gn4179/1s_2009...
Catholic Church the fastest growing
monkallover.blogspot.com/2007/03/catholic-chu...
US Catholic Church Growing
vivechristusrex2000blogspot.com/2010/02/us-ca...
Catholic Church still growing--mainlines declining
religion.lohudblogs.com/.../catholic-church-s...

Sure--I walked away from my original Protestant bible only Church, but I still worship there "once in a while" and visit my bible only Christian friends. We share our faith-and respect each others beliefs----even though we may disagree on doctrinal issues. HOWEVER----I DO NOT respect bible only anti-Catholic "bashers" and "heretics" on this forum like you, confrinting, Orville, 4GVN,justachristian1, OLDJG and the rest of the bible only "bashing buffoon" who attack my personal faith (the faith of Regina, Anthony, Clay and other Catholics ------AND my own personal salvation and relationship in Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#403734 Nov 20, 2012
Clay wrote:
Question of the day:
Who started the Catholic Church?
Every Protestant, evangelical, SDA, Jehovah's, Mormon, sect can be traced to a single person.
But the Catholic Church does not have an apparent founder.
It has long been said by desperate Protestants that the Roman Emperor Constantine founded it. But there is absolutely zero evidence that this man could have.
So He is ruled out.
So who did?
The answer is that the Catholic Church can trace their lineage to Jesus Christ and what He said to Peter that day: "Peter, you are the Rock upon which I'll build MY CHURCH, And the gates of Hell shall not prevail"
I agree! In fact, ALL of the religions (including others) not listed are "in reality" considered to be CULTS---which by the definition of a cult---- is a religion, founded and established by an individual person beginning with Luther and the Lutheran Church! ALL 42,000+!!!!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#403735 Nov 20, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
THE BIBLE SAYS
==>NOT TO KEEP COMPANY WITH A RAILER..
MY WIFE ANDI HAVE BEEN AND ARE NOW BEING RAILED UPON F CONTINUOUSLY HERE IN THIS FORUM
NOTE
1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you
not to keep company,
if any man that is called a brother
be a fornicator,
or covetous,
or an idolater, or a RAILER,
or a drunkard, or an extortioner;
with such an one no not to eat.
(CAPITALIZED WORDS INSERTED MINE)
Confrinting----YOU are the "railer" on this forum---"railing, condemning and judging the faith and salvation of other Christians, especially Catholics. I respect your wife KAYMARIE!
(Again) she is the "only TRUE Christian" in your family!!!
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403736 Nov 20, 2012
Short Video but worth watching.

Incredible Facts of The Bible (HD)

&fe ature=related
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403737 Nov 20, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree! In fact, ALL of the religions (including others) not listed are "in reality" considered to be CULTS---which by the definition of a cult---- is a religion, founded and established by an individual person beginning with Luther and the Lutheran Church! ALL 42,000+!!!!
Because of her traditions that is why the Bible refers to her the RCC as the Harlot and her daughters (protestant church's keeping her traditions) That is why It Is Written "Come Out Of Her My People"

Are you one of Gods people HOJO ?
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403738 Nov 20, 2012
Hidden Message in Genesis. WOW!

&fe ature=related
Orville

Baker City, OR

#403739 Nov 20, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>lol, two good living , god fearing people do not lie. where have you been all of your life?
I just posted her lie about jesus speaking in tongues. I cant make that up, it is on topix forever


What post? Where is the link?

You did show anything. Again.
Orville

Baker City, OR

#403740 Nov 20, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
OOPs You just lied Preston Topix will not last FOREVER read your Bible........It's all there for everyone to SEE.



Preston is an avalanche of uncontrollable LIES....
Every link has the entire LIE made by Preston. Brace, in typical Roman-Coyote fashion, Preston will immediate befig the diversion game....


WANNA TELL ME WHERE i WAS CORRECT{ED} AND ON WHAT.

should have been CORRECTED, instead of the word CORRECT

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TV910R5...
++++++++++
OK Preston let's start here:

Here Preston states he did not make the statement he very clearly did make:

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/pope-benedict -...
|#400801

it is to bad and pathetic that over 70% of those who considered themselves to be Christians, voted for him.

++++++++++
Physical PROBLEMS?

You stated you were healed. Not once, but twice !!!!:

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/pope-benedict -...
|#400728

And here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/pope-benedict -...
++++++++

NEXT:
Preston states Mormons are the "other sheep". Preston champions them. yet just a few hours later, he condemns Mormons:

The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ
Yes!

The Book of Mormon people were Jesus' other sheep...

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/pope-benedict -...

YET Preston then states, in the same day, a few hours later, the opposite....
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/pope-benedict -...

++++++
I am like John the Baptist.

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/pope-benedict -...
+++++

Preston is like "JOSHUA"....
Joshua seemed to think just exactly as I do...

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/pope-benedict -...

++++++
USES KARMA as a reference:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TV910R5...
+++++
Preston speaks to himself....
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/pope-benedict -...

+++++++

Confrinting also bust Preston:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TV910R5...
++++++++++


Makes an insane claim that the OT was written in some unknown "tounge" called Hebrew:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/catholic/...
++++++++++

7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403741 Nov 20, 2012
You won't believe whats at the center of the Bible

&fe ature=related
Orville

Baker City, OR

#403742 Nov 20, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Confrinting----YOU are the "railer" on this forum---"railing, condemning and judging the faith and salvation of other Christians, especially Catholics. I respect your wife KAYMARIE!
(Again) she is the "only TRUE Christian" in your family!!!


What do you know about "Christian"?

Nothing. Your a Roman. like your buddy Coyote-Preston.
Orville

Baker City, OR

#403743 Nov 20, 2012
Clay wrote:
Question of the day:
Who started the Catholic Church?
Every Protestant, evangelical, SDA, Jehovah's, Mormon, sect can be traced to a single person.
But the Catholic Church does not have an apparent founder.
It has long been said by desperate Protestants that the Roman Emperor Constantine founded it. But there is absolutely zero evidence that this man could have.
So He is ruled out.
So who did?
The answer is that the Catholic Church can trace their lineage to Jesus Christ and what He said to Peter that day: "Peter, you are the Rock upon which I'll build MY CHURCH, And the gates of Hell shall not prevail"


Question of a lifetime: Why did you believe in a religion that has no validity. Not in Scripture, nor Biblical history?

If so, prove it Clay.

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