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Yes, we can be decived as" 12And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart.
14But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Robert- Yes, we were once in darkness. But fater our conversion by an act of Holy God-Spirit,
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1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Yes, I sin Robert. When I am tempted, when I am drawn away of my own lust, and enticed. 15Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
You write about conversion by the Holy Spirit. But you also write at the end that you sin....So that means to me, that conversion is a process. That we are not completely converted when the Holy Spirit is within us. That the heart grows softer when we follow the Holy Spirit, and harder when we do not. And we can be deceived enough so that we sin.
So there is a process of conversion which entails first of conviction, and then an act repenting, knowing it is a sorrowful thing we did when we sinned....