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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 670238 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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preston

Athens, OH

#403703 Nov 20, 2012
and I really didnt steal it, I was going to give it back, I just borrowed it for a few minutes

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#403704 Nov 20, 2012
Orville wrote:
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Yes, we can be decived as" 12And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart.
Jerhimiah 18.
James1:
14But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Robert- Yes, we were once in darkness. But fater our conversion by an act of Holy God-Spirit,
<< Romans 6 >>
King James Version
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1What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Romans 6.
Yes, I sin Robert. When I am tempted, when I am drawn away of my own lust, and enticed. 15Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Orville good friend

You write about conversion by the Holy Spirit. But you also write at the end that you sin....So that means to me, that conversion is a process. That we are not completely converted when the Holy Spirit is within us. That the heart grows softer when we follow the Holy Spirit, and harder when we do not. And we can be deceived enough so that we sin.

So there is a process of conversion which entails first of conviction, and then an act repenting, knowing it is a sorrowful thing we did when we sinned....
LTM

Geraldton, Canada

#403705 Nov 20, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
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Try telling that to my orthodox Jewish friends who came to my parents' funeral masses.
We have many Jewish converts to the faith.
Not all Jews rejected Jesus. the first church of Jesus was Jewish Regina. Even today there is a group who call thems selves Jews for Christ.
LTM

Geraldton, Canada

#403706 Nov 20, 2012
Michael wrote:
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You were once a protestant you told us, who was ejected from the church, thrown to the curb, dusted yourself off, walked down the street and there was a catholic church. YOu walked inside everyone there said "welcome aboard HOJO".........you are now one of us, and everyone lived happily ever after.
thats about it!
I bring the news we all need to know.
They saw an empty vessel and filled it up with garbage. He was hungry and swallow every rotten bite.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403707 Nov 20, 2012
Live Action wrote:
It Is The Demon's and evil spirits that try and filter through your mind.you must stop them by understanding
1# Understanding Yahweh Is Not A god.
2#keeping his feast and his sabbath.
Keeping the old testament.to the best of your ability And I do not care who you are and your life will change.for the better.
Scripture says that understanding only comes from the reverence of your heavenly father.
This means to do as he tells you.don't he haw around with it.
And you can not gain Understanding by worshiping a man made god...that's right this is what you sheeple don't get...... man changed his name and made the creator a god....the very thing he warns you not to worship gods and or god hell can't you see he don't even want to be in the same category as them.
rev 12/9 sure hits home....and can you not see everyone interpenetrating the scripture according to them. who has never once kept the sabbath his feast......NO UNDERSTANDING.
It is written:

Romans 11:21.

For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403708 Nov 20, 2012
Live Action wrote:
It Is The Demon's and evil spirits that try and filter through your mind.you must stop them by understanding
1# Understanding Yahweh Is Not A god.
2#keeping his feast and his sabbath.
Keeping the old testament.to the best of your ability And I do not care who you are and your life will change.for the better.
Scripture says that understanding only comes from the reverence of your heavenly father.
This means to do as he tells you.don't he haw around with it.
And you can not gain Understanding by worshiping a man made god...that's right this is what you sheeple don't get...... man changed his name and made the creator a god....the very thing he warns you not to worship gods and or god hell can't you see he don't even want to be in the same category as them.
rev 12/9 sure hits home....and can you not see everyone interpenetrating the scripture according to them. who has never once kept the sabbath his feast......NO UNDERSTANDING.
It Is Written:

Romans 11:21.

For if Yahweh spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

Remember Yahweh desired Mercy not Scarifice and Judgement.

We are still to keep the commandments of Yahweh. Does not Grace entail Mercy ? it is by the Blood of Christ that Jew and gentile alike are saved.

Good Post !!!
ReginaM

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#403709 Nov 20, 2012
LTM wrote:
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Not all Jews rejected Jesus. the first church of Jesus was Jewish Regina. Even today there is a group who call thems selves Jews for Christ.
Yes, we all know this...but we were talking about current day Jews, not the early church. You made a disparaging remark about Jewish converts to Catholicism. Instead of celebrating the fact that they came to embrace Christ in His church, you chose to say, and I quote, "That is too bad they traded the incorruptible God for that which is corrupted." I stand by my reply.
Orville

Baker City, OR

#403710 Nov 20, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>THANKS, I FORGOT MY PLACE.
you are a lifesaver, mr fraud might have given me a ticket.


You forgot nothing. You can see your words, know them, and plan them in advance. You lie so repetivley, you have only lost your conscience.

&fe ature=related Again.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#403711 Nov 20, 2012
ReginaM wrote:
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Yes, we all know this...but we were talking about current day Jews, not the early church. You made a disparaging remark about Jewish converts to Catholicism. Instead of celebrating the fact that they came to embrace Christ in His church, you chose to say, and I quote, "That is too bad they traded the incorruptible God for that which is corrupted." I stand by my reply.
FREAKSHOW...The Catholic Church is all Paganism. Babylon in the 3rd century had the exact same teachings. 2000 years before Christianity. Filth and garbage is the teachings of Catholicism. Watch the EXORCIST movie from 1973. FILTH and Demonism.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403712 Nov 20, 2012
Orville wrote:
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Stolen from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_shall_not_be...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =G--h5ZfWvugXX
I think we know he has been guilty of this all along even thow he accuses others of Plagiarizing if they forget to add the URL link etc.

Doesn't the NUT realise we are all reading from the same book so yes whe it comes to scripture our intepretations that are spiritually discerned are going to be the same. Some by those who it is not spiritually discerned and fall into a false doctirne as well.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#403713 Nov 20, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I DID NOT KNOW THE APOSTLE PETER'S LAST NAME...though he did pop-off a time or two...and once when he did....Jesus called Him satan...
I guess I am a lawless one....
I don't live under the Levitical law
I live under GRACE. I am a Gentile...
Jesus did not lie when he said...
Mat_10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
Luk_9:2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.
Luk_10:9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE COUNTERFEITS AND FALSE PROPHETS ...DO YOU THINK IT NEGATES THE POWER OF GOD...TO WORK THROUGH HIS SERVANTS...
DO YOU STOP DRINKING WATER JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE WELLS THAT ARE CONTAMINATED...
JESUS SAID...
Joh_7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
PEOPLE ARE JUST AS THIRSTY AND IN NEED OF HEALING AND MIRACLES TODAY AS THEY WERE WHEN JESUS WAS UPON THE EARTH...
IF YOU HAVE FOUND A GOOD EXCUSE TO BE POWERLESS AND ENDEMIC...DON'T USE IT.
Heb_13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Amen..So many people are confused about Gods Grace. They want to be a Jew and still live under the old laws. Its ALL about Jesus and what HE DID for us..Not what we can do for him. He is my redeemer. I am bought and paid for by the blood of Jesus Christ. Thanks for posting this
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403714 Nov 20, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Stolen from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_shall_not_be...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =m30mG3JKzA8XX&feature=fvw rel
I'd say That puts him right up there with Ellen G. White......LOL
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#403715 Nov 20, 2012
Romans 11:21-24

King James Version (KJV)


21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#403716 Nov 20, 2012
who="Robert F"
Orville good friend
You write about conversion by the Holy Spirit. But you also write at the end that you sin....So that means to me, that conversion is a process. That we are not completely converted when the Holy Spirit is within us. That the heart grows softer when we follow the Holy Spirit, and harder when we do not. And we can be deceived enough so that we sin.
So there is a process of conversion which entails first of conviction, and then an act repenting, knowing it is a sorrowful thing we did when we sinned....

**********

Robert...When a baby is born, it is a whole person...just not reached its full growth. Jesus said that "you MUST be born again (of the Spirit).
The baby Christian must feed, first on the milk of the Word, then, if it walks in faith, it will be able to handle meat.

Because our 'feelings' give way to greed, and other works of the flesh, repentance is necessary. Yes, the heart led by the Spirit becomes softer, sweeter, and the one that is rebellious may become very hard.

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#403717 Nov 20, 2012
Truth wrote:
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So you must believe that the seventy handed their powers on to others???
If you believe this, you have been deceived!!!
~~~

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN SUCCESSION OF ANY KIND PAPAL OR OTHERWISE..

BUT I believe God is the same now as he was then..

Evidently you believe Jesus never came forth from the dead
and the Power that was received at the feast Pentecost has fizzled out
or that He lied when He said...

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying,

--> All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Question if you believe that God is powerless today...

why do you bother.

with church?

Orville

Baker City, OR

#403718 Nov 20, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Orville good friend
You write about conversion by the Holy Spirit. But you also write at the end that you sin....So that means to me, that conversion is a process. That we are not completely converted when the Holy Spirit is within us. That the heart grows softer when we follow the Holy Spirit, and harder when we do not. And we can be deceived enough so that we sin.
So there is a process of conversion which entails first of conviction, and then an act repenting, knowing it is a sorrowful thing we did when we sinned....

I agree.
Orville

Baker City, OR

#403719 Nov 20, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>I'd say That puts him right up there with Ellen G. White......LOL


Rightfully so. Amen.
Clay

Denver, CO

#403720 Nov 20, 2012
Fr Robert Dye wrote:
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Y'know, I am not so sure I really mind that Michael wants to keep on this topic. In many ways, I think it could end up being very good for the Church.
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There are undoubtedly going to be many people who will leave the Church.
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First and foremost in the exodus will be the nominal Catholics. Easter and Christmas mass attendance, if that. No clear idea of what the Church teaches, because they never really cared to learn.
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If they can find a home elsewhere, well, God Bless 'Em!
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Think about it. Why are there those who stay, despite the news stories and the scandal, and the continual emphasis on the scandal, no matter how good a job any bishop does in the future?
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Why are there still men studying for the priesthood?
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(This second one blows my mind. I am continually amazed that there is ANYBODY willing to go to seminary, but there are still men applying with the diocese. Why? They *can't* be thinking it is any kind of path to automaticic authority and status, as was the case with some of the guys I encountered in seminary. Nowaday, i'm more likely to get a glare and a dirty look when I'm wearing my collar.
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And you KNOW that the family and friends of these guys are asking them WHY on earth they would ever want to be priests, since "everybody knows" about those priests ...
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And yet, there are still men applying.)
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Therre are still people entering the RCIA, investigating the Catholic Faith. This too blows my mind. These are intelligent people, and they still want to know what we teach, and why.
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I can only see it as the work of the HS, although I know many on this board will disagree.
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People who are staying Catholic are doing so because they KNOW what it is they are doing, and see the importance of the faith in Jesus Christ being proclaimed by the Church. Men who are truly committed to God's call are still answering.
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The other thing that makes me wonder is why none of the Protestants seem to be asking the obvious question: Why, EXACTLY, did this scandal happen in the CC? Many of them were so convinced that the Church is satanic, or at the very least, a pet project of Satan... which I would think would make them wonder, just a little, what the explanation for the scandal would be.
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You'd think Satan would attack something that was truly of God, and try to undermine it. But no, he attacks what people like "Just-a-Christian" and Marge seem to think was something key to his plans to undermine the True Faith.
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Odd ...
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Rob
A couple things here Fr Rob..
I understand what you're saying about cultural Catholics leaving. Normally I could care less if an adult who's a half hearted Catholic in the first place, leaves. Groups like "Catholics for choice" and such need to get the heck out of the Church.

However, my heart aches for their children, who will not have much of a choice, and therefore will be deprived of the fullness of Christianity- especially the Eucharist.

I do find it amazing that the seminary here in the Twin Cities is full (again). The RCIA class is full too (again). Many of these new Catholics are bright converts.. Former Evangelicals who just want truth. Their respective churches can't get it for them. That's the honest to God answer that I hear. The internet can be an amazing tool for folks who want to search and verify whether or not their pastors are speaking truth..
I don't necessarily have a problem with the Church exchanging casual Catholics for convert Catholics. The new members are full of zeal and devotion to the Gospel and Jesus Christ.

And these new Priest are different too. They are brave, strong willed, and not shy to stand up and proclaim their faith.
I believe the Holy Spirit is picking the best of the best right now for the Priesthood. God knows we need it more than ever.
Orville

Baker City, OR

#403721 Nov 20, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>I think we know he has been guilty of this all along even thow he accuses others of Plagiarizing if they forget to add the URL link etc.
Doesn't the NUT realise we are all reading from the same book so yes whe it comes to scripture our intepretations that are spiritually discerned are going to be the same. Some by those who it is not spiritually discerned and fall into a false doctirne as well.


7TH,
He knows very, very well. He enjoys the "act", imagery.
Orville

Baker City, OR

#403722 Nov 20, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>I think we know he has been guilty of this all along even thow he accuses others of Plagiarizing if they forget to add the URL link etc.
Doesn't the NUT realise we are all reading from the same book so yes whe it comes to scripture our intepretations that are spiritually discerned are going to be the same. Some by those who it is not spiritually discerned and fall into a false doctirne as well.


Notice he is hunkered down.

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