Pope warns church must find balance between rules and mercy or "fall like a house of cards"

Sep 19, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Nanaimo Daily News

Pope Francis is warning that the Catholic Church's moral edifice might "fall like a house of cards" if it doesn't balance its divisive rules about abortion, gays and contraception with the greater need to make the church a merciful, more welcoming place for all.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Peoples Bushes, Arizona

#1 Sep 19, 2013
I hope it falls like a house of cards and everyone becomes Protestants as God intended !

:)

(Jesus was a Lutheran, remember !)

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#2 Sep 19, 2013
The more I hear from this Pope the more I hope he take a baseball bat to most of the US Bishops and Cardinals until they get with his program. He's a gust of fresh air that is badly needed in todays world.
Sgt Common Sense

Denver, CO

#3 Sep 19, 2013
TomInElPaso wrote:
The more I hear from this Pope the more I hope he take a baseball bat to most of the US Bishops and Cardinals until they get with his program. He's a gust of fresh air that is badly needed in todays world.
Agree, would like to hear some of our consevative Christians in the US talking his way.

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#4 Sep 19, 2013
TomInElPaso wrote:
The more I hear from this Pope the more I hope he take a baseball bat to most of the US Bishops and Cardinals until they get with his program. He's a gust of fresh air that is badly needed in todays world.
He's actively countering, in word and action, the emergence of Orthodoxy as an influence.
St Reformed

Stillwater, OK

#5 Sep 19, 2013
Good for Pope Francis.
Read his words carefully: He is not saying that Church teaching will suddenly endorse abortion, gay marriage, etc. He is saying all people deserve God's mercy, not only the pronouncement of the Law from Scripture.
Jesus did not endorse adultery when he refused to judge the adultress in the Gospel of John. He merely commanded her to "Go and sin no more."
Will Francis be another John XXIII? One can always hope, but they lived in different eras.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Peoples Bushes, Arizona

#6 Sep 19, 2013
St Reformed wrote:
Good for Pope Francis.
Read his words carefully: He is not saying that Church teaching will suddenly endorse abortion, gay marriage, etc. He is saying all people deserve God's mercy, not only the pronouncement of the Law from Scripture.
Jesus did not endorse adultery when he refused to judge the adultress in the Gospel of John. He merely commanded her to "Go and sin no more."
Will Francis be another John XXIII? One can always hope, but they lived in different eras.
I rather he become another Martin Luther and boldly proclaim as Luther did that "The Roman Catholic Church is Evil ! PURE EVIL !"

:)
Dan

Omaha, NE

#7 Sep 20, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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I rather he become another Martin Luther and boldly proclaim as Luther did that "The Roman Catholic Church is Evil ! PURE EVIL !"
:)
If he became Lutheran, at least he wouldn't have to worry about people picking his statements apart-no one pays attention to the Lutheran church except Lutherans.
Realpeople

Ashburn, VA

#8 Sep 20, 2013
He is correct. The catholic church has too many man made up rules. Their main problem.
Realpeople

Ashburn, VA

#9 Sep 20, 2013
All of catholic dogma....man made up rules need to be 86'ed.
Realpeople

Ashburn, VA

#10 Sep 20, 2013
The catholic church needs to fall and everyone follow the teachings of JESUS CHRIST and the bible.

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#11 Sep 20, 2013
Realpeople wrote:
The catholic church needs to fall and everyone follow the teachings of JESUS CHRIST and the bible.
Biblicism is a self-refuting tautology, and a heresy based upon non-scriptural traditions and questionable sources.
Realpeople

Ashburn, VA

#12 Sep 23, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Biblicism is a self-refuting tautology, and a heresy based upon non-scriptural traditions and questionable sources.
You are wrong....GOD wrote the bible and it is the truth.

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#13 Sep 23, 2013
Realpeople wrote:
<quoted text>You are wrong....GOD wrote the bible and it is the truth.
Did he use a #2 pencil or a Bic pen?
Realpeople

Ashburn, VA

#14 Sep 25, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Did he use a #2 pencil or a Bic pen?
He spoke the word and the disciples wrote it with coal.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#15 Sep 25, 2013
Realpeople wrote:
The catholic church needs to fall and everyone follow the teachings of JESUS CHRIST and the bible.
There are hundreds of different copyrighted variations of 'the bible'; which is exactly the reason for all this brouhaha
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Which one are you beating today?
Realpeople

Ashburn, VA

#16 Sep 25, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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There are hundreds of different copyrighted variations of 'the bible'; which is exactly the reason for all this brouhaha
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Which one are you beating today?
GOD's word is no other place than then bible. NOt the catholic man made up bible though.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#17 Sep 25, 2013
Realpeople wrote:
<quoted text>GOD's word is no other place than then bible. NOt the catholic man made up bible though.
So you're beating a protestant 'bible' today
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Look to see who the copyright holder is and that will tell you who wrote it

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#18 Sep 25, 2013
Realpeople wrote:
<quoted text>GOD's word is no other place than then bible. NOt the catholic man made up bible though.
DO you know how the various books in the ANTHOLOGY called "the bible" came to be written (and by whom) and compiled (by whom)?

The tradition (of men) that "the bible" anthology is a coherent and cohesive single work is called "Biblicism". There are two related heresies, "Inerrency" and "Sola Scriptura". These heresies are themselves mere non-scriptural traditions (of men), which are also based upon unfounded premises, contradicted by the historical record, and are rife with the "circular reasoning fallacy". They are also self-refuting.

The writings are all valuable, each in their own way, but to conflate them all into a single work is to discredit the individual witness of the various writers, redactors and compilers.

We can go into it, if you wish.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Peoples Bushes, Arizona

#19 Sep 25, 2013
snyper wrote:
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DO you know how the various books in the ANTHOLOGY called "the bible" came to be written (and by whom) and compiled (by whom)?
The tradition (of men) that "the bible" anthology is a coherent and cohesive single work is called "Biblicism". There are two related heresies, "Inerrency" and "Sola Scriptura". These heresies are themselves mere non-scriptural traditions (of men), which are also based upon unfounded premises, contradicted by the historical record, and are rife with the "circular reasoning fallacy". They are also self-refuting.
The writings are all valuable, each in their own way, but to conflate them all into a single work is to discredit the individual witness of the various writers, redactors and compilers.
We can go into it, if you wish.
Although I'm a church-going Lutheran, I've never believed in Luther's "Sola Scriptura". And the Roman Catholic bibles include books, and verses, which Protestants do not include in their bibles as they do not consider them worthy of inclusion (for various reasons).

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#20 Sep 25, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Although I'm a church-going Lutheran, I've never believed in Luther's "Sola Scriptura". And the Roman Catholic bibles include books, and verses, which Protestants do not include in their bibles as they do not consider them worthy of inclusion (for various reasons).
They are clearly labeled "apocrypha".

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