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“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#162 Feb 20, 2013
Son of SickNTired wrote:
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You can pray in school.. And there are regulations written into the 2nd ammendment that are conveniently overlooked... As are the parts of the teachings of Christ that are usually overlooked by the likes of you.
Such as?

Since: Apr 12

Hunt Valley, MD

#163 Feb 20, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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Such as?
Like love your neighbor as yourself, helping the poor unconditionally, not judging others.. Those sort of things.. The stuff that seems to be ignored by most "Christians"..
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#164 Feb 20, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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If you want to call it that to absolve your conscience without taking responsibility for your actions....and your morality or lack of that has been shown to create the very problems your accusing me of supporting....
What do I have to trouble my conscience?

You want to encourage millions in Africa to die of AIDS, I want to encourage them to avoid the disease.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#165 Feb 20, 2013
Son of SickNTired wrote:
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Like love your neighbor as yourself, helping the poor unconditionally, not judging others.. Those sort of things.. The stuff that seems to be ignored by most "Christians"..
Yeah....love your neighbor as yourself....love does not treat others as sex objects....to have sex outside of marriage....

Helping the poor....of course....this does not include promoting their lifestyle that is leading them to diseases....

Judging others? Ah, what you mean is a bit different here....condemning others is not what we are supposed to do....but correcting them through His Word and in love....

Look, you have a kid that runs out in the street in traffic, you don't allow him to continue that behavior....you correct him....that is a "judgment" but you don't condemn him or her for it....you don't disown the child or anything....

To NOT say anything....to not correct....to allow the kid to continue that behavior would be unloving....

Even if you put a helmet on them or knee pads....to "protect" them....
Judge Dredd

Paris, France

#166 Feb 20, 2013
Some of those bell banging chicks were hot ! I'd have been delighted to bang their @$$.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#167 Feb 20, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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Yeah....love your neighbor as yourself....love does not treat others as sex objects....to have sex outside of marriage....
Helping the poor....of course....this does not include promoting their lifestyle that is leading them to diseases....
Judging others? Ah, what you mean is a bit different here....condemning others is not what we are supposed to do....but correcting them through His Word and in love....
Look, you have a kid that runs out in the street in traffic, you don't allow him to continue that behavior....you correct him....that is a "judgment" but you don't condemn him or her for it....you don't disown the child or anything....
To NOT say anything....to not correct....to allow the kid to continue that behavior would be unloving....
Even if you put a helmet on them or knee pads....to "protect" them....
So to you love is defined by whether you've signed a marriage certificate?

Does that mean Adam and Eve weren't in love? Even if god himself married them, there wouldn't be any witnesses.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#168 Feb 20, 2013
I can read wrote:
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So to you love is defined by whether you've signed a marriage certificate?
Does that mean Adam and Eve weren't in love? Even if god himself married them, there wouldn't be any witnesses.
A marriage certificate has nothing to do with it....

However love IS a choice....

1 Corinthians 13:1-13 - Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.

1 Corinthians 13:4-8 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away.

John 3:16 “For God so loved the world,that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Romans 5:8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Galatians 5:13 For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.

Matthew 5:43-48 “You have heard that it was said,‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#169 Feb 20, 2013
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.

Ephesians 5:25-27 {NIV}

How many men do this really?

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#170 Feb 20, 2013
Son of SickNTired wrote:
You can pray in school.. And there are regulations written into the 2nd ammendment that are conveniently overlooked... As are the parts of the teachings of Christ that are usually overlooked by the likes of you.[/quote]
[QUOTE who="Knightmare"] <quoted text>
Such as?
Such as the fact that Jesus taught his followers to be better Jews by obeying all of the Laws of Moses...
shedevil

Somerset, KY

#171 Feb 20, 2013
I can read wrote:
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The same way they trick children into being molested, they abuse their position of power.
That's still the stupidest sh*t I've heard.Yeah you might trick a kid into killing hisself but if you can trick a adult into it then that adult has a mind problem to begin with.No one could get me to kill myself unless I already wanted to and I don't and never will.
crucifix up the butt

Pittston, PA

#172 Feb 21, 2013
nuns and the pope love to handle those hairy bells. ring a ding ding hairy bells.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#173 Feb 22, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Such as the fact that Jesus taught his followers to be better Jews by obeying all of the Laws of Moses...
The law of God....not the law of Moses....and if you read further....Jesus taught that LOVE and grace and mercy and forgiveness fulfills the law....

He also died for us and rose because none of us are able to keep the law perfectly....it's all about forgiveness....

It was NEVER about how we could keep the law....it's impossible....He kept the law and keeps the law for us....and through Him we are made righteous....

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#174 Feb 22, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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The law of God....not the law of Moses....
Well, IF the Bible is in any way, shape or form "inspired", then the Laws of Moses ARE the Laws of God. If they are not the Laws of God, then NOTHING in the Bible is inspired,and the entire debate is moot.
Knightmare wrote:
and if you read further....Jesus taught that LOVE and grace and mercy and forgiveness fulfills the law....
And he wa mostly correct. As his teacher, Rabbi Hillel said: "Love God and love your neighbor. The rest is commentary". If you do those two commandments, all the rest fall into place.
Knightmare wrote:
He also died for us and rose because none of us are able to keep the law perfectly....
Except of course all those people in the Bible that were called righteous...

More to the point, Deuteronomy very clearly states that the Laws CAN be followed, because they were given to the children of Israel, they are not hidden away. See Deuteronomy 30

Deuteronomy 30:14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

(But read the entire passage in context.)
Knightmare wrote:
it's all about forgiveness....
And the Bible said that the only thing required for forgiveness of sins was a sincere prayer - that was always far more important than the blood sacrifices.
Knightmare wrote:
It was NEVER about how we could keep the law....it's impossible....
See above. Also note that the Bible is VERY clear, it REPEATEDLY states that the Commandments and Laws are to be followed for ever, without ever changing so much a a single letter. Leviticus says this, Deuteronomy says it over a dozen times, most of the prophets say it, Proverbs, even Jesus said it.

To claim that the children of Israel were deliberately given laws that they could not follow would be blasphemy, it is saying that the God of the Bible lied to Moses and His prophets.
Knightmare wrote:
He kept the law and keeps the law for us....and through Him we are made righteous....
But you cannot be righteous if you do not follow the law as best you are able.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#175 Feb 22, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Well, IF the Bible is in any way, shape or form "inspired", then the Laws of Moses ARE the Laws of God. If they are not the Laws of God, then NOTHING in the Bible is inspired,and the entire debate is moot.
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And he wa mostly correct. As his teacher, Rabbi Hillel said: "Love God and love your neighbor. The rest is commentary". If you do those two commandments, all the rest fall into place.
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Except of course all those people in the Bible that were called righteous...
More to the point, Deuteronomy very clearly states that the Laws CAN be followed, because they were given to the children of Israel, they are not hidden away. See Deuteronomy 30
Deuteronomy 30:14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
(But read the entire passage in context.)
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And the Bible said that the only thing required for forgiveness of sins was a sincere prayer - that was always far more important than the blood sacrifices.
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See above. Also note that the Bible is VERY clear, it REPEATEDLY states that the Commandments and Laws are to be followed for ever, without ever changing so much a a single letter. Leviticus says this, Deuteronomy says it over a dozen times, most of the prophets say it, Proverbs, even Jesus said it.
To claim that the children of Israel were deliberately given laws that they could not follow would be blasphemy, it is saying that the God of the Bible lied to Moses and His prophets.
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But you cannot be righteous if you do not follow the law as best you are able.
Yet the law was to be a mirror to show us how unrighteous we are....

Yes....we need to follow the law....but we are unable to keep it with perfection....and God will not accept anything less than perfection....

http://www.gotquestions.org/not-under-the-law...

The Law is the issue that has to be dealt with in order to bring us into a right relationship with God. "Know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified" (Galatians 2:16). This passage reveals that the Law cannot justify or make righteous any man in God’s sight, which is why God sent His Son to completely fulfil the requirements of the Law for all those who would ever believe in Him.

Christ Jesus redeemed us from the curse that has been brought through the law by becoming a curse for us (Galatians 3:13). He substituted Himself in our place and upon the cross took the punishment that is justly ours so that we are no longer under the curse of the Law. In doing so, He fulfilled and upheld the requirements of the Law. This does not mean that Christians are to be lawless, as some advocate today—a teaching called antinomianism. Rather, it means that we are free from the Mosaic Law and instead under the law of Christ, which is to love God with all of our being and to love our neighbors as we love ourselves.
sickofit

Owatonna, MN

#176 Feb 22, 2013
Good for them women. The body is awesome. Enjoy it. Religous freaks just want to control people lives.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#178 Feb 23, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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Yet the law was to be a mirror to show us how unrighteous we are....
Yes....we need to follow the law....but we are unable to keep it with perfection....and God will not accept anything less than perfection....
http://www.gotquestions.org/not-under-the-law...
The Law is the issue that has to be dealt with in order to bring us into a right relationship with God. "Know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified" (Galatians 2:16). This passage reveals that the Law cannot justify or make righteous any man in God’s sight, which is why God sent His Son to completely fulfil the requirements of the Law for all those who would ever believe in Him.
Christ Jesus redeemed us from the curse that has been brought through the law by becoming a curse for us (Galatians 3:13). He substituted Himself in our place and upon the cross took the punishment that is justly ours so that we are no longer under the curse of the Law. In doing so, He fulfilled and upheld the requirements of the Law. This does not mean that Christians are to be lawless, as some advocate today—a teaching called antinomianism. Rather, it means that we are free from the Mosaic Law and instead under the law of Christ, which is to love God with all of our being and to love our neighbors as we love ourselves.
Except that everything you wrote here is totally incontradiction with what the Bible says about the law.

Did you even bother to read the verses that I posted? Did you go and look them up and read them in context? There is NO ambiguity: Galatians is totally and completely WRONG in what it says about the Law. Believing Paul is guaranteed to lead you AWAY from the God of the Bible. There is no "law of Christ", the Bible clearly says tha the Laws of Moses were given to be followed for ever.

Well, by the children of Israel, anyway. The rest of us have our own Gods, with Their rules and commandments to follow.
shedevil

London, KY

#180 Feb 24, 2013
I'll go topless when all the men here go bottomless.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#181 Feb 25, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Except that everything you wrote here is totally incontradiction with what the Bible says about the law.
Did you even bother to read the verses that I posted? Did you go and look them up and read them in context? There is NO ambiguity: Galatians is totally and completely WRONG in what it says about the Law. Believing Paul is guaranteed to lead you AWAY from the God of the Bible. There is no "law of Christ", the Bible clearly says tha the Laws of Moses were given to be followed for ever.
Well, by the children of Israel, anyway. The rest of us have our own Gods, with Their rules and commandments to follow.
You're not reading the whole Bible in context....

Jesus IS our lamb of sacrifice that paid for all of mankinds sins....

Since: Apr 12

Hunt Valley, MD

#182 Feb 25, 2013
shedevil wrote:
I'll go topless when all the men here go bottomless.
done

Since: Apr 12

Hunt Valley, MD

#183 Feb 25, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
Ephesians 5:25-27 {NIV}
How many men do this really?
You sure are trying to convince yourself and us that you love your wife..

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