Topless women activists bang Notre Dame bell in anti-pope protest in Paris cathedral

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Topless women activists have pounded a huge church bell in Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris to "celebrate" the pope's resignation.
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“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#61 Feb 12, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Fetuses don't have a voice. The decision is the mother's, not yours, I repeat.
Slaves didn't have a voice at one time and were considered property....

Unborn babies are living human persons....

They DO need a voice....

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#62 Feb 12, 2013
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
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Thanks to catholic vermin like you thousands of women died from 'illegal' abortions. Fortunately the death rate has all but disappeared no thanks to you and you ignorant ilk! Glad the moron in the vatican is retiring. He can sit around and remember his days in the Hitler Youth!
First, I'm not catholic....read the profile....
Second: http://www.pregnantpause.org/safe/deaths.htm
Pro-abortion groups frequently say that before abortion was legalized, thousands of women died every year from "dangerous back-alley abortions". In the 60's, the National Association to Reform Abortion Laws (now the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League) routinely claimed that "5,000 to 10,000" women died every year from illegal abortions.
That claim is a little hard to believe. About 50,000 women of child-bearing age die each year -- from all causes combined. To suggest that 10,000 of these deaths were from illegal abortion would make that the cause of one out of every five deaths, or 20%! This would have made illegal abortion the leading cause of death among women in that age group.
The pro-abortionists will then point to government statistics that show very few women dying from abortion after it was legalized -- dozens per year. This is an an argument for "safe, legal abortion".(Safe for the mother, of course; abortion is never safe for the baby.)
But even a casual look at the numbers shows that the same statistics they use to prove that abortion is safe today, also prove that it was just about as safe before legalization. There has been a slight downward trend for decades, and legalization in 1973 barely caused a blip in that trend.(Improved medical tecniques probably account for this steady fall.)
When this is pointed out, the pro-abortionists reply that the statistics are inaccurate, that the number of abortion-related deaths before 1973 was grossly under-reported. But if they doubt the statistics for abortion deaths for years before 1973, how can they then triumphantly embrace the statistics after 1973? They were collected by the same people using essentially the same methods. There is no reason to believe they suddenly became dramatically more accurate in 1973. This theory is especially implausible when you note that the numbers for 1972 and 1973 are extremely close to each other. It defies probability to say that a wildly inaccurate number in 1972 would just happen to differ by only 19 cases from a precisely correct number in 1973.
In fact, they are probably correct when they say that abortion-related deaths were under-reported before 1973. It is just that they were still under-reported after 1973. Abortion deaths may be erroneously reported as being due to some other cause for a variety of reasons. If the abortionist is also the doctor who fills out the death certificate, he has a strong incentive not to blame it on a botched operation performed by himself. As one government statistician put it, "That's like turning yourself in for a tax audit." Or whether it is the abortionist or someone else, he may shade the truth to avoid embarrassing the dead woman's family.
This is just speculation, but there is reason to believe it is true.
In 1977 an Ohio doctor noted that while the official statistics showed no abortion-related deaths in Ohio that year, he personally knew of two. If one doctor knew of two cases, how many were there really?
Abortion was legalized in California in 1967. According to an article in the Los Angeles Times in 1972, official records showed just four abortion-related deaths from 1967 to 1972. Yet a reporter for that paper uncovered three deaths in Los Angeles in just one month in 1972.

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Since: Jan 12

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#63 Feb 12, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Fetsues are developing people.
Pretty heartless, prof.
They're NOT people, though, that's my point. They're just cells at the point when most abortions take place. Forcing women to bear children they don't want is pretty heartless, too, but I don't see you admitting to it.

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#64 Feb 12, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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First, I'm not catholic....read the profile....
Second: http://www.pregnantpause.org/safe/deaths.htm
Pro-abortion groups frequently say that before abortion was legalized, thousands of women died every year from "dangerous back-alley abortions". In the 60's, the National Association to Reform Abortion Laws (now the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League) routinely claimed that "5,000 to 10,000" women died every year from illegal abortions.
That claim is a little hard to believe. About 50,000 women of child-bearing age die each year -- from all causes combined. To suggest that 10,000 of these deaths were from illegal abortion would make that the cause of one out of every five deaths, or 20%!....EDITED....
Just one example of your biased argumentation here, since you choose the larger figure you claim that NARAL had cited - 10,000. A number of 5,000 would only be 10%, which is certainly plausible. Even if it's 1%, or 500, that figure represented an unnecessary number of often cruel and painful deaths.

Calling abortion rights groups "pro-abortion groups" is also dishonest, since they almost without exception support CHOICE, not forced abortions.

FWIW

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#65 Feb 12, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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Just one example of your biased argumentation here, since you choose the larger figure you claim that NARAL had cited - 10,000. A number of 5,000 would only be 10%, which is certainly plausible. Even if it's 1%, or 500, that figure represented an unnecessary number of often cruel and painful deaths.
Calling abortion rights groups "pro-abortion groups" is also dishonest, since they almost without exception support CHOICE, not forced abortions.
FWIW
Really? Why was Planned Parenthood started? Margaret Sanger and population control...."culling the herd" so to speak....Hitler-lite....

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#66 Feb 12, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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They're NOT people, though, that's my point. They're just cells at the point when most abortions take place. Forcing women to bear children they don't want is pretty heartless, too, but I don't see you admitting to it.
Really?

Again....slaves were just property....cells just put together....
sickofit

Faribault, MN

#67 Feb 12, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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No....I'm saying everyone, including christians pray on their own time....
I mean seriously....there is appropriate times....
Then why did you complain about no prayer in schools??? Anyone can pray in school to themself on there time.....
shedevil

London, KY

#68 Feb 12, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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They're NOT people, though, that's my point. They're just cells at the point when most abortions take place. Forcing women to bear children they don't want is pretty heartless, too, but I don't see you admitting to it.
IF she didn't want a baby she should have used protection so should the man.They is to much protection to keep from it so women do not have that as a excuse now.Only woman that should be able to have a abortion is to save her life or cause of rape.A woman who could lay down let a doctor kill her unborn baby should die on the table with the baby.The baby didn't ask her to get prego so who's fighting for his or her right to life.Partial abortion is cruel.watch this video if anyone who is for this does not have http://youtu.be/2uCaqMY1jJI a heart.
shedevil

London, KY

#69 Feb 12, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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Really?
Again....slaves were just property....cells just put together....
http://youtu.be/PM8h6LQscCw watch this tell me if that's just a cell to you.No human is property black or white or Mexican or Chinese.we are all gods people.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#70 Feb 12, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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Pro-lifer....
You happen to be an anti-2nd amendment person?
http://www.pregnantpause.org/safe/bcancer2.ht...
Dr. Janet Daling is a cancer researcher at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center and the University of Washington. On 2 November 1994 Dr. Daling and fellow reseachers published an article in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute (pp. 1584-1592) concerning induced abortion and breast cancer risk for premenopausal women. Some key findings:
Women under age 18 who had an induced abortion have an increased breast cancer risk of 150%.
Women of age 30 and above who aborted a FIRST pregnancy increase their breast cancer risk by 110%.
Overall, women who have an induced abortion have an increased breast cancer risk of 50%.
Dr. Janet Daling is self-described as 'pro-choice'.
The Journal of the National Medical Association is a publication by black medical professionals concerned with black health problems. In the December 1993 issue JNMA published the results of a Howard University study. Key finding:
Black women of age 50 and above who had at least 1 induced abortion have an increased breast cancer risk of 370%.
In September 1995 Louisiana became the first U.S. state to require abortion clinics to inform potential patients that induced abortions may increase breast cancer risk. In no other state (or in Canada) are women warned that there is even a possibility of a link between abortion and cancer.
You complain about other people using biased websites to back up their points but then do the exact same thing back?

Is there a 'christian' on earth who isn't a hypocrite?
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#71 Feb 12, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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Slaves didn't have a voice at one time and were considered property....
Unborn babies are living human persons....
They DO need a voice....
How about all those AIDS victims in Africa who caught the disease after catholic missionaries deliberately taught them that condoms would do nothing to help stop the spread of the disease?

Do they get a voice?

How about the 10 million or so sperm who die every time you jack off?

A voice for them also?
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#72 Feb 12, 2013
shedevil wrote:
<quoted text>IF she didn't want a baby she should have used protection so should the man.They is to much protection to keep from it so women do not have that as a excuse now.Only woman that should be able to have a abortion is to save her life or cause of rape.A woman who could lay down let a doctor kill her unborn baby should die on the table with the baby.The baby didn't ask her to get prego so who's fighting for his or her right to life.Partial abortion is cruel.watch this video if anyone who is for this does not have http://youtu.be/2uCaqMY1jJI a heart.
Perhaps you should finish high school before deciding who gets to live and who gets to die.

Or if you can't finish, then at least start.
pope caught with bj

Kingston, PA

#73 Feb 13, 2013
the pope resigned cause he likes to bang the bells of little boys.

hail mary, with vatican nuns making believe they are little boys, for the cardinals to bang them up their butts while jacking off crucifixs.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#74 Feb 13, 2013
shedevil wrote:
<quoted text> http://youtu.be/PM8h6LQscCw watch this tell me if that's just a cell to you.No human is property black or white or Mexican or Chinese.we are all gods people.
Agreed....I'm trying to make a point with those that say that an unborn baby is just cells put together....

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#75 Feb 13, 2013
I can read wrote:
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How about all those AIDS victims in Africa who caught the disease after catholic missionaries deliberately taught them that condoms would do nothing to help stop the spread of the disease?
Do they get a voice?
How about the 10 million or so sperm who die every time you jack off?
A voice for them also?
Um....condoms DON'T stop AIDS....hello!!!!

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#76 Feb 13, 2013
I can read wrote:
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You complain about other people using biased websites to back up their points but then do the exact same thing back?
Is there a 'christian' on earth who isn't a hypocrite?
What?
pope caught with bj

Kingston, PA

#77 Feb 13, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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Um....condoms DON'T stop AIDS....hello!!!!
the cardinals who do nuns up the butt in the vatican use condoms so that they dont spread the anal herpes most nuns have.

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Since: Jan 12

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#78 Feb 13, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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Really? Why was Planned Parenthood started? Margaret Sanger and population control...."culling the herd" so to speak....Hitler-lite....
Irrelevant to my post. Get back on track if you want to discuss.

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Since: Jan 12

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#79 Feb 13, 2013
Knightmare wrote:
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Really?
Again....slaves were just property....cells just put together....
More offtopic irrelevancies...you don't rebut very well. If anyone's being made a "slave" here it would be the women you want to force to have unwanted children, though.

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Since: Jan 12

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#80 Feb 13, 2013
shedevil wrote:
<quoted text>IF she didn't want a baby she should have used protection so should the man.They is to much protection to keep from it so women do not have that as a excuse now.Only woman that should be able to have a abortion is to save her life or cause of rape.A woman who could lay down let a doctor kill her unborn baby should die on the table with the baby.The baby didn't ask her to get prego so who's fighting for his or her right to life.Partial abortion is cruel.watch this video if anyone who is for this does not have http://youtu.be/2uCaqMY1jJI a heart.
Not talking about "partial abortion," not concerned about what you think women OUGHT to do. I'm talking about the right of a woman to decide whether or not to have a kid, or abort an unwanted pregnancy.

You're mental, basically. Pretty much a typical anti-choice fanatic.

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