Catholic Organist says he lost his job because he is gay

Sep 24, 2013 Full story: 11Alive 36

Nick Johns is a gifted musician. As a cradle Catholic who was the son of a deacon and an altar boy himself, Johns grew up with a love for the organ that was so strong, he pursued a degree in it at Georgia State University.

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Since: Mar 09

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#1 Sep 24, 2013
They don't want you in their club.

Get over it.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#3 Sep 24, 2013
Mr. Johns doesn't appear to have been forced out of his job because he was gay.
It appears that he was forced out as he took public positions counter to the teachings of his employer.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

33.00, -111.51

#4 Sep 24, 2013
I'll never understand why so many LGBT people want to be Catholic.
Garvin

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#6 Sep 24, 2013
"Johns grew up with a love for the organ"

THAT'S THE PROBLEM!

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

33.00, -111.51

#9 Sep 24, 2013
Garvin wrote:
"Johns grew up with a love for the organ"
THAT'S THE PROBLEM!
LOL

Very good !

:)

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#10 Sep 24, 2013
Garvin wrote:
"Johns grew up with a love for the organ"
THAT'S THE PROBLEM!
You seem to have grown up a pathological liar. THAT'S THE PROBLEM!

I don't get it that you claim to be from Holland or Sweden all the time, which are the two most liberal and gay friendly countries in THE WORLD. Why can't you lie more convincingly and say you're from Nigeria or Iran, two hate filled countries that despise gays. It would be much more believable, if any of your lies can be believed.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#11 Sep 24, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
Very good !
:)
Great...now you're agreeing with the haters who laugh at you behind your back. Great job, self loathing one.

Why are you so DOWN on your own kind? What's wrong with you? You're worse than the haters, at least they are consistent and up front with their hate. You hate being gay. Your self loathing collaborating with them brings us all down.
Qwerty26

Rehoboth Beach, DE

#12 Sep 24, 2013
Q. What's better than roses on a piano?

A. Tulips on your organ.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

33.00, -111.51

#13 Sep 24, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Great...now you're agreeing with the haters who laugh at you behind your back. Great job, self loathing one.
Why are you so DOWN on your own kind? What's wrong with you? You're worse than the haters, at least they are consistent and up front with their hate. You hate being gay. Your self loathing collaborating with them brings us all down.
It was a funny joke. Lighten up. If you cant laugh at yourself, YOU are the one with the problem.

Since: Aug 11

Scotts Valley, CA

#15 Sep 24, 2013
Their loss. The guys a great musician. Narrow minded people always lose.
Keyboard Spider

Alpharetta, GA

#16 Sep 24, 2013
Garvin wrote:
"Johns grew up with a love for the organ"
THAT'S THE PROBLEM!
I personally own two; and they are both paid for in full
.
Do you have a problem with that; sugarbritches?

“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#17 Sep 24, 2013
Dan wrote:
Mr. Johns doesn't appear to have been forced out of his job because he was gay.
It appears that he was forced out as he took public positions counter to the teachings of his employer.
Do you think an employer should have the right to dictate your behaviour outside of work hours?

I think what I say or do when I'm not at work is none of my employer's business.
Keyboard Spider

Alpharetta, GA

#18 Sep 24, 2013
Nick Johns was born with the same sexual orientation his mother was born with; attracted to men
.
So the church's psychotic homophobes should be kicking all the women out of their church for the same reason; including their own mothers
.
The remaining church members will look like this:
http://m0.i.pbase.com/o6/04/318004/1/73285000...
.
That will be one sexy catholic church; won't it!!!
.
Shame on them
Dan

Omaha, NE

#19 Sep 24, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
Their loss. The guys a great musician. Narrow minded people always lose.
Mr. Johns does seem to be a very talented musician.

He did, however, make his own choice to publicly dissent from the teachings of his employer.

You seem to state here that the employer's action here was "narrow minded". That's an odd statement.

Had they not paid Mr. Johns for his services as contracted, would you label any actions Mr. Johns would take in his contractual interests as "narrow minded"?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#20 Sep 24, 2013
KirkW wrote:
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Do you think an employer should have the right to dictate your behaviour outside of work hours?
I think what I say or do when I'm not at work is none of my employer's business.
Please.

People get hired and/or fired all the time due to FB and social media.

Keep thinking that. If you work at XYZ Widgets, watch what happens if you post "XYZ Widgets sucks" or some such on FB.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#21 Sep 24, 2013
Keyboard Spider wrote:
Nick Johns was born with the same sexual orientation his mother was born with; attracted to men
.
So the church's psychotic homophobes should be kicking all the women out of their church for the same reason; including their own mothers
.
The remaining church members will look like this:
http://m0.i.pbase.com/o6/04/318004/1/73285000...
.
That will be one sexy catholic church; won't it!!!
.
Shame on them
Yeah.

Shame on them for not treating Johns differently than other employees.

“Some people are gay - get over”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#22 Sep 24, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Please.
People get hired and/or fired all the time due to FB and social media.
Keep thinking that. If you work at XYZ Widgets, watch what happens if you post "XYZ Widgets sucks" or some such on FB.
Just because something happens doesn't mean it should. I asked if you think it was acceptable for that to happen.

His FB page was private at his employer's request and yet that was the used against him.

Just because employer's "do this all the time" doesn't make it legally correct.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#23 Sep 24, 2013
KirkW wrote:
<quoted text>
Just because something happens doesn't mean it should. I asked if you think it was acceptable for that to happen.
His FB page was private at his employer's request and yet that was the used against him.
Just because employer's "do this all the time" doesn't make it legally correct.
I'm not sure if it matters if you or I find it acceptable or not.

They guy gave cause and they termed him. I mean, that's what happens.

Keyboard Spider

Alpharetta, GA

#24 Sep 24, 2013
Dan wrote:
Mr. Johns does seem to be a very talented musician.
He did, however, make his own choice to publicly dissent from the teachings of his employer.
He had only one choice
.
That choice was not to lie; But to tell the truth
.
**********
1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other Gods before me
.
2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
.
3. Thou shalt keep holy the sabbath day
.
4. Honor thy father and thy mother
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5. Thou shalt not kill
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6. Thou shalt not commit adultery
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7. Thou shalt not steal
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8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
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9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife
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10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods
**********
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Johns chose to tell the truth and the Red Man with a Pointy Tail took control of the remainder of the 'church'
.
Perhaps the time has come for the 'church' to trade in its candles for blowtorches
http://timelifeblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/...

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

33.00, -111.51

#25 Sep 24, 2013
Did you know that Catholic gays are called "organists" ?

as in "Are you a Protestant ?" "Nope I I'm an Organist !"

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