Pope resigns: An atheist's reflections

Feb 11, 2013 Full story: Examiner.com 326

On Feb. 11, Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger , announced his retirement. He is the first pope in 600 years to resign from the position.

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jesus licks hairy balls

Pittston, PA

#46 Feb 14, 2013
nobody in the vatican believes in god----they only believe in molesting little boys.

and the nuns only get together in the vatican to have sex with other nuns.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#47 Feb 14, 2013
You write that like it's a bad thing.
jesus licks hairy balls wrote:
and the nuns only get together in the vatican to have sex with other nuns.
Siro

Australia

#48 Feb 14, 2013
hurr, hurr, hurr.....
what a pair of morons you are

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#49 Feb 14, 2013
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Hi there BOQF! I still find it interesting that Ratz got all his cardinals in place and loose ends tied and sealed right after the butler got into his secret documents and info
from his diary. I think his resignation due to health is used to deflect from the usual Vatican dirty laundry.
Likely this is correct-- we do know that Ratz was the author-in-chief of "How To Hide Pedophile Priests from the Law", the official Genuine Catholic™ dogma on the process.

Once that came into the light of day, you'd have thunk that catholics the world over, would have risen up and demanded his removal-- preferably by permanent means (as in poison, the Traditional ending of the popes in the past).

The fact that they did not? Makes them complacent in the coverup.

... meh.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#50 Feb 14, 2013
Siro wrote:
hurr, hurr, hurr.....
what a pair of morons you are
Oh look!

The Genuine Catholic™ pope-licker speaks.

How quaint.
Amused

Bridgewater, MA

#51 Feb 14, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Catholic, much?
LOL!
Little by little, your True Believer™ status comes out.
Now, we see you are a catholic as well.
How do you support an organization that systematically hides child-rapers?
Why would you be surprised? His obsession with gay slurs tells us he's so far in the closet he can see Narnia.
Amused

Bridgewater, MA

#52 Feb 14, 2013
Why would anyone care? Whoever the pope is, it'll just be more of the same cult nonsense. Plus ca change, plus c'est le meme chose.

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#53 Feb 15, 2013
Pope Allegedly Sought Immunity For Abuse Crimes Just Before Resigning

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/14/pope-...

"We knew something had to be up with the resignation of Pope Benedict. After all, Popes don’t just resign; in fact, this is the first time a Pope has resigned in 600 years. Therefore, the hoopla surrounding this is more than understandable. However, as per usual with the Catholic Church, there seems to be a catch, and, lo and behold, it likely surrounds the infamous abuse scandals that have plagued the church’s image for so long.

It seems that with his resignation announced, the Pope, whose given name is Joseph Ratzinger, has a meeting with the Italian President, Giorgio Napolitano on February 23 to beg for immunity against prosecution for allegations of child sex crimes. Apparently, this hastily arranged meeting, and likely the resignation as well, are the result of a supposed note received by the Vatican from an undisclosed European government that stated that there are plans to issue a warrant for the Pope’s arrest. This letter was allegedly received on February 4, and Ratzinger resigned a week later. Now, there’s no way people can ignore how fishy this is. The first Pope to resign in 600 years does so after panicking about an impending arrest and in the midst of a hastily arranged meeting begging for protection from the Italian government? How they will keep people from connecting the two is beyond me. Chances are, the world will be popping popcorn and steadily watching.

Well, for once, the guy might not get off easy. The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and state calls upon the Italian President to deny help to Ratzinger, and to “not collude in criminality. Let’s just hope that Napolitano does not cave. However, there may be another avenue to make sure the Pope is brought to justice if the Italian President does cave.

It seems that in addition to these alleged attempts by this European government to prosecute, a New York based organization, The Centre for Constitutional Rights, has accused the Pope and his Cardinals of possible crimes against humanity for sheltering pedophile priests. The non-profit legal group has requested an ICC inquiry on behalf of the Survivor’s Network, citing the church’s “long-standing and pervasive system of sexual violence.”

Apparently, the Vatican has no comment. Well, of course it doesn’t. It knows that Ratzinger and his henchmen are guilty, and now they are just scrambling to save face and save his keister from jail. Shame, since that is exactly where he belongs.

The thing is, this institution knows no bounds when it comes to protecting their own, no matter how heinous the crimes. Anyone not living under a rock knows that the Pope and his cronies have abusing children for decades, and likely centuries. The thing is, they are just the biggest example of religion getting people passes. Shameful, but true. All those of us with a sense of justice and conscience can do is hope that one, if not both, of these attempts at legal action is successful."
Dan

Omaha, NE

#54 Feb 15, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
That raises a couple questions:
How can they have 2 infallible popes at the same time, especially if they disagree on a subject?
Does being tired and wore out mean you are not all that infallable after all?
It means you don't understand the concept of papal infallibility and are asking a dumb question.
Siro

Australia

#55 Feb 15, 2013
This thread is called...
"Pope resigns: An atheist's reflections"

So the pope resigns and the reflection of the atheist get more worship as he prays to his mirror because he thinks it is all his doing

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#56 Feb 15, 2013
Siro wrote:
This thread is called...
"Pope resigns: An atheist's reflections"
So the pope resigns and the reflection of the atheist get more worship as he prays to his mirror because he thinks it is all his doing
so you pray to your self
Thinking

Hounslow, UK

#57 Feb 15, 2013
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Siro wrote:
This thread is called...
"Pope resigns: An atheist's reflections"
So the pope resigns and the reflection of the atheist get more worship as he prays to his mirror because he thinks it is all his doing

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#58 Feb 15, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
It means you don't understand the concept of papal infallibility and are asking a dumb question.
Please explain His Infallibleness.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#59 Feb 15, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
Pope Allegedly Sought Immunity For Abuse Crimes Just Before Resigning
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/14/pope-...
"We knew something had to be up with the resignation of Pope Benedict. After all, Popes don’t just resign; in fact, this is the first time a Pope has resigned in 600 years. Therefore, the hoopla surrounding this is more than understandable. However, as per usual with the Catholic Church, there seems to be a catch, and, lo and behold, it likely surrounds the infamous abuse scandals that have plagued the church’s image for so long.
It seems that with his resignation announced, the Pope, whose given name is Joseph Ratzinger, has a meeting with the Italian President, Giorgio Napolitano on February 23 to beg for immunity against prosecution for allegations of child sex crimes. Apparently, this hastily arranged meeting, and likely the resignation as well, are the result of a supposed note received by the Vatican from an undisclosed European government that stated that there are plans to issue a warrant for the Pope’s arrest. This letter was allegedly received on February 4, and Ratzinger resigned a week later. Now, there’s no way people can ignore how fishy this is. The first Pope to resign in 600 years does so after panicking about an impending arrest and in the midst of a hastily arranged meeting begging for protection from the Italian government? How they will keep people from connecting the two is beyond me. Chances are, the world will be popping popcorn and steadily watching.
Well, for once, the guy might not get off easy. The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and state calls upon the Italian President to deny help to Ratzinger, and to “not collude in criminality. Let’s just hope that Napolitano does not cave. However, there may be another avenue to make sure the Pope is brought to justice if the Italian President does cave.
It seems that in addition to these alleged attempts by this European government to prosecute, a New York based organization, The Centre for Constitutional Rights, has accused the Pope and his Cardinals of possible crimes against humanity for sheltering pedophile priests. The non-profit legal group has requested an ICC inquiry on behalf of the Survivor’s Network, citing the church’s “long-standing and pervasive system of sexual violence.”
Apparently, the Vatican has no comment. Well, of course it doesn’t. It knows that Ratzinger and his henchmen are guilty, and now they are just scrambling to save face and save his keister from jail. Shame, since that is exactly where he belongs.
The thing is, this institution knows no bounds when it comes to protecting their own, no matter how heinous the crimes. Anyone not living under a rock knows that the Pope and his cronies have abusing children for decades, and likely centuries. The thing is, they are just the biggest example of religion getting people passes. Shameful, but true. All those of us with a sense of justice and conscience can do is hope that one, if not both, of these attempts at legal action is successful."
Where's the "alleged letter" that was "allegedly received"?

Who is the ITCCS and what authority do they have?

I checked the site and the only name there is some Canadian. Is he the "tribunal"?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#60 Feb 15, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Please explain His Infallibleness.
He's only infallible when making a definitive doctrinal statement ex catehdra on faith and morals.

Been invoked only a handful of times.

He can be wrong picking stocks, he doesn't go 100% from the free throw line, he doesn't win all the games on Price is Right, etc.

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#61 Feb 15, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
He's only infallible when making a definitive doctrinal statement ex catehdra on faith and morals.
Been invoked only a handful of times.
He can be wrong picking stocks, he doesn't go 100% from the free throw line, he doesn't win all the games on Price is Right, etc.
Can they have 2 popes, who are both infallible, at the same time?

After the first one resigns, does he become fallible?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#62 Feb 15, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Can they have 2 popes, who are both infallible, at the same time?
After the first one resigns, does he become fallible?
If you aren't Pope, you can't employ papal infallibility.

“Tis the Season for Reason!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#63 Feb 15, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
If you aren't Pope, you can't employ papal infallibility.
Then can we assume the infallibility comes and goes?

Then it's neither innate nor permanent.

Who gives it, and where is it derived from?

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#64 Feb 15, 2013
Amused wrote:
Plus ca change, plus c'est le meme chose.
Ok... Hemispheres it is!!
Dan

Omaha, NE

#65 Feb 15, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Then can we assume the infallibility comes and goes?
Then it's neither innate nor permanent.
Who gives it, and where is it derived from?
Only the Pope can be infallible by virtue of his office and only under certain conditions.

It's not a personal virtue if that's what you're driving at.

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