Pope resigns: An atheist's reflections

Feb 11, 2013 Full story: Examiner.com 326

On Feb. 11, Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger , announced his retirement. He is the first pope in 600 years to resign from the position.

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#269 Mar 13, 2013
at least we now the children, are safe in rome then
Lincoln wrote:
Interesting happening in religious news
Cardinals swore an oath of secrecy and locked themselves inside the Sistine Chapel on Tuesday, starting a conclave that they hope will elect a new pope who can heal divisions inside Roman Catholicism's hierarchy while tending to its 1.2 billion faithful.
The procession of cardinals into the chapel capped a day of carefully scripted events designed to showcase unity among the princes of the church as well as their continuity with centuries of tradition. But the rituals came against a backdrop of stark splits over what kind of leader Catholicism needs to guide it in its 21st century.
In the evening, black smoke rose from the chapel, signaling that cardinals didn't reach the two-thirds majority needed to choose a new pope in their first vote. The voting was set to continue on Wednesday m
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Thousands of people await the result of voting at the Sistine Chapel in Vatican City on Tuesday. Black smoke rose from the chapel's chimney, signaling cardinals hadn't chosen a pope.
In recent weeks, cardinals from around the world have publicly vented grievances over the opaque governance of the Roman Curia, the Vatican's scandal-plagued administrative body, pitting themselves against a coterie of colleagues who are longtime Vatican insiders.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#270 Mar 13, 2013
I only hope there aren't any choirboys locked in there with them.
Atheist Silurist wrote:
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I don't think they will make a decision on a new pope for a few days yet, they need time for them all to bugger each other. We should all by now be well aware of what goes on behind closed doors in the catholic church.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#271 Mar 13, 2013
The new Pope has one lung and didn't even want the job!

Let the jokes begin :)
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#272 Mar 13, 2013
OK- pope Francis' name is an anagram of "pen!s of cr*p"
Givemeliberty wrote:
The new Pope has one lung and didn't even want the job!
Let the jokes begin :)

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#273 Mar 13, 2013
Lol! Well with only one lung he will only be able to rape half the little boys as other Popes.
Thinking wrote:
OK- pope Francis' name is an anagram of "pen!s of cr*p"
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Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#274 Mar 13, 2013
I don't yet know if he's another kiddie fiddler apologist, but I do know that he appeased the fascists in the 70s/80s. He neglected at least two of his priests. They got tortured. This story may well haunt him.
Givemeliberty wrote:
Lol! Well with only one lung he will only be able to rape half the little boys as other Popes.
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Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#275 Mar 13, 2013
I wasn't aware of that although it doesn't surprise me. I will have to look that up. Hey maybe that torture incident is what pushes him over the top?
Thinking wrote:
I don't yet know if he's another kiddie fiddler apologist, but I do know that he appeased the fascists in the 70s/80s. He neglected at least two of his priests. They got tortured. This story may well haunt him.
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Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#276 Mar 13, 2013
Maybe he's not the worst but the problem with giving the gig to an emerging country is that they're way behind the curve when it comes to resolving abuse cases.

Also... the conclave could've elected this same guy back in 2005. The conclave made a mistake.
Givemeliberty wrote:
I wasn't aware of that although it doesn't surprise me. I will have to look that up. Hey maybe that torture incident is what pushes him over the top?
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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#277 Mar 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
The new Pope has one lung and didn't even want the job!
Let the jokes begin :)
So, even with his imminent demise the last pope, might still outlive the new pope? Too funny.
Lincoln

United States

#278 Mar 13, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Maybe he's not the worst but the problem with giving the gig to an emerging country is that they're way behind the curve when it comes to resolving abuse cases.
Also... the conclave could've elected this same guy back in 2005. The conclave made a mistake.
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We could have ended up with Romney.
Name an atheist president of the US

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#279 Mar 13, 2013
Isn't it? It seems old crusty backwards white dudes are the only candidates for Pope. They could used that Filipino dude he actually seemed half way interesting and young enough to live for a while.
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>So, even with his imminent demise the last pope, might still outlive the new pope? Too funny.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#280 Mar 13, 2013
It seems thy are determined to keep nominating these backwards old bigots.
Thinking wrote:
Maybe he's not the worst but the problem with giving the gig to an emerging country is that they're way behind the curve when it comes to resolving abuse cases.
Also... the conclave could've elected this same guy back in 2005. The conclave made a mistake.
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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#281 Mar 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Hey the looney with the hairbrush can at least demonstrate the hairbrush exists!
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Indeed he can-- and in a pinch, he can even use it to brush his untrimmed underarm hair...

... but the real kicker?

Even used in this way, the hairbrush would be infinitely more useful than all the gods of all the religions so far, piled in an infinitely high stack of ... nothing.

:)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#282 Mar 13, 2013
Atheist Silurist wrote:
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I don't think they will make a decision on a new pope for a few days yet, they need time for them all to bugger each other. We should all by now be well aware of what goes on behind closed doors in the catholic church.
I think you are wrong, here-- these are the Genuine Catholic Cardinals™ after all.

They will have sent out for an orphanage full of little kids for them to use.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#283 Mar 13, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I only hope there aren't any choirboys locked in there with them.
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I'd bet you any pile of cash-money, that there are more than a few-- choir girls too.

All underage, of course-- that's why the closed doors, you see.

These >>are<< Genuine Catholic Cardinals™ we are speaking of here.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#284 Mar 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
It seems thy are determined to keep nominating these backwards old bigots.
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What else?

Genuine Catholics™ only real brand: rich, old white guys.

Hey!

That's the same brand the ReThuglicans use. I wonder if they know they are stealing each other's brand like that?
Lincoln

United States

#285 Mar 13, 2013
The New Pope is impressive
will help the Catholic Church
Lincoln

United States

#286 Mar 13, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I'd bet you any pile of cash-money, that there are more than a few--
All underage, of course-- that's why the closed doors, you see.
These Genuine Catholic Cardinals™ we are speaking of here.
Alas for another viewpoint ..

In unadorned white robes, the first pope from the Americas sets a tone of simplicity and pastoral humility in a church desperate to move past the tarnished era of abuse scandals and internal Vatican upheavals.

The choice of Argentine Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio — who took the name Francis — reflected a series of history-making decisions by fellow cardinals who seemed determined to offer a message of renewal to a church under pressures on many fronts.

The 76-year-old archbishop of Buenos Aries — the first from Latin America and the first from the Jesuit order — bowed to the crowds in St. Peter's Square and asked for their blessing in a hint of the austere style he cultivated while modernizing the Argentina's conservative Catholic church.

In taking the name Francis, he drew connections to the 13th century St. Francis of Assisi, who saw his calling as trying to rebuild the church in a time of turmoil. It also evokes images of Francis Xavier, one of the 16th century founders of the Jesuit order that is known for its scholarship and outreach.
Lincoln

United States

#287 Mar 13, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Indeed he can-- and in a pinch, he can even use it to brush his untrimmed underarm hair...
... but the real kicker?
Even used in this way, the hairbrush would be infinitely more useful than all the gods of all the religions so far, piled in an infinitely high stack of ... nothing.
:)
Francis, the son of middle-class Italian immigrants, is known as a humble man who denied himself the luxuries that previous Buenos Aires cardinals enjoyed. He came close to becoming pope last time, reportedly gaining the second-highest vote total in several rounds of voting before he bowed out of the running in the conclave that elected Pope Benedict XVI.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, good evening," he said before making a reference to his roots in Latin America, which accounts for about 40 per cent of the world's Roman Catholics .

Bergoglio often rode the bus to work, cooked his own meals and regularly visited the slums that ring Argentina's capital. He considers social outreach, rather than doctrinal battles, to be the essential business of the church.

He accused fellow church leaders of hypocrisy and forgetting that Jesus Christ bathed lepers and ate with prostitutes.

"Jesus teaches us another way: Go out. Go out and share your testimony. Go out and interact with your brothers. Go out and share. Go out and ask. Become the Word in body as well as spirit," Bergoglio told Argentina's priests last year.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#288 Mar 13, 2013
So he participated in a brutal military dictatorship and had a role in torturing people? This would be a cause for concern him leading a religion.

On the other hand he is a spitting image of an uglier Telly Savalas!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telly_Savalas
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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What else?
Genuine Catholics™ only real brand: rich, old white guys.
Hey!
That's the same brand the ReThuglicans use. I wonder if they know they are stealing each other's brand like that?

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