All Catholics must promote church's mission, Lincoln's new bishop says

Dec 6, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Cdowk.org

Bishop Conley began ministry as a priest for the Diocese of Wichita LINCOLN, Neb.

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"Shortcut the process"? Have you read your posts? Some of them are so big that they have their own post office.
I know that they are internally policing more now.
They do get dismissed/laicized/punished/wh atever. That's all Canon Law stuff. You know about that as you're a TEC priest.
I don't know a thing about Joe D's deal and it sounds like a TEC thing. Can't respond there.
RE: how did they get ordained in the first place-hell, same way any deviant gets a job-they don't tell about it at the interview. I have no exact idea, Ken, but there it is.
I know that the Church is doing more screening for homosexuality. Is that what you mean by "blaming"?
"... same way any deviant gets a job-they don't tell ..."

THAT is what I mean by "blaming."
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"... same way any deviant gets a job-they don't tell ..."
THAT is what I mean by "blaming."
Missed you on that one.

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HEY!

Well,... Excuuuuuuuse ME!

You have the right to use, I think, 4000 characters in your post, including spaces and punctuation. Sometimes, one needs to "reiterate" a point or get pedantic in order to explain a thought. Its all perfectly legal. Sorry if you get bored with me.

As for blaming, you accuse me of making unfounded, blanket statements.

You just made one.

The problem is in an entire system of behaviors and screening and over-expectation and enabling and claiming righteousness while simultaneously hiding and lying and playing a shell-game with blame and guilt.

No one primary cause can be legitimately identified. "Takes two to Tango," so to speak.

These problems that the RCC and others have with pedophiles; let's see:

Public and private schools, daycare operations, Boy scouts, The Roman Catholic Church, University sports programs, etc., are places where children gather. So pedophiles, seeking opportunity, head for those doors.

The University of Penn St. found its much-loved and respected head coach discredited because he and other University officials stood by and allowed a single pedophile coach to operate in their midst.

The Boy Scouts didn't want to admit having the problem, either.

But, with the Roman Church it is much worse. There is an entire hidden system of enabling. Moreover, it is fully institutionalized and has been ongoing for centuries. CENTURIES!

Without doubt, some of the behaviors arose out of the roots of Roman culture itself.

Want to stop it? Allow priests to marry - that is, heterosexual opposite-sex AND homosexual same-sex couples. Then, if any of them are caught in an adulterous relationship, take the offender out of their priestly duties.

Celibacy should be a personal choice, not a requirement. And, if a person decides that he or she can no longer continue in that chosen behavior, let them get married or get out of their priestly duties.

Roman Church pedophile priests would have a much more difficult time finding opportunities for their crimes if the Roman Church operated in this way. The Episcopal Church is a good example. We have very few instances of pedophile priest behavior, either heterosexual or homosexual. And when someone is found out and proven to be guilty, they can and should expect to be put out.

Do a few get in and then get away, in spite of safeguards anyway? Yep. We are not perfect in our pursuit of excellence. Just overall pretty good. Unintended and unanticipated mistakes still do happen.

People laugh at this idea. But, what the Roman Church ought to do is to send their mutually-committed, same-sex clergy couples to us. We'll marry them. Then, after a couple trains in the ministry together for a period of time, we'll send them back as a married couple to continue their ministry in the Roman Church, if they want to go. Call it an "exchange" program.

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HEY!
Well,... Excuuuuuuuse ME!
You have the right to use, I think, 4000 characters in your post, including spaces and punctuation. Sometimes, one needs to "reiterate" a point or get pedantic in order to explain a thought. Its all perfectly legal. Sorry if you get bored with me.
As for blaming, you accuse me of making unfounded, blanket statements.
You just made one.
The problem is in an entire system of behaviors and screening and over-expectation and enabling and claiming righteousness while simultaneously hiding and lying and playing a shell-game with blame and guilt.
No one primary cause can be legitimately identified. "Takes two to Tango," so to speak.
These problems that the RCC and others have with pedophiles; let's see:
Public and private schools, daycare operations, Boy scouts, The Roman Catholic Church, University sports programs, etc., are places where children gather. So pedophiles, seeking opportunity, head for those doors.
The University of Penn St. found its much-loved and respected head coach discredited because he and other University officials stood by and allowed a single pedophile coach to operate in their midst.
The Boy Scouts didn't want to admit having the problem, either.
But, with the Roman Church it is much worse. There is an entire hidden system of enabling. Moreover, it is fully institutionalized and has been ongoing for centuries. CENTURIES!
Without doubt, some of the behaviors arose out of the roots of Roman culture itself.
Want to stop it? Allow priests to marry - that is, heterosexual opposite-sex AND homosexual same-sex couples. Then, if any of them are caught in an adulterous relationship, take the offender out of their priestly duties.
Celibacy should be a personal choice, not a requirement. And, if a person decides that he or she can no longer continue in that chosen behavior, let them get married or get out of their priestly duties.
Roman Church pedophile priests would have a much more difficult time finding opportunities for their crimes if the Roman Church operated in this way. The Episcopal Church is a good example. We have very few instances of pedophile priest behavior, either heterosexual or homosexual. And when someone is found out and proven to be guilty, they can and should expect to be put out.
Do a few get in and then get away, in spite of safeguards anyway? Yep. We are not perfect in our pursuit of excellence. Just overall pretty good. Unintended and unanticipated mistakes still do happen.
People laugh at this idea. But, what the Roman Church ought to do is to send their mutually-committed, same-sex clergy couples to us. We'll marry them. Then, after a couple trains in the ministry together for a period of time, we'll send them back as a married couple to continue their ministry in the Roman Church, if they want to go. Call it an "exchange" program.
Rev. Ken
"Want to stop it? Allow priests to marry - that is, heterosexual opposite-sex AND homosexual same-sex couples. Then, if any of them are caught in an adulterous relationship, take the offender out of their priestly duties"

Sorry, Ken. I know you just can't help yourself trumpeting the virtues of marriage within TEC clergy, but marriage isn't a salve for pedophilia. It just isn't, no matter how many times you say it is.

"Celibacy should be a personal choice, not a requirement." It IS a personal choice and always has been-for the third time I think, clerics take their vows of their own volition. There is no conscription to the clergy.

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"Want to stop it? Allow priests to marry - that is, heterosexual opposite-sex AND homosexual same-sex couples. Then, if any of them are caught in an adulterous relationship, take the offender out of their priestly duties"
Sorry, Ken. I know you just can't help yourself trumpeting the virtues of marriage within TEC clergy, but marriage isn't a salve for pedophilia. It just isn't, no matter how many times you say it is.
"Celibacy should be a personal choice, not a requirement." It IS a personal choice and always has been-for the third time I think, clerics take their vows of their own volition. There is no conscription to the clergy.
No. It IS very much still a requirement. And, yes there IS a pronounced invitation - if not an actual conscription - to enter the clergy. The Roman Church insists that its body of clergy is, ultimately the penultimate authority. Of late, the RCC has only begun to accept Episcopal Church priests who have come already married. It is the beginning of the introduction of a very necessary change.

!!!! But, as to your message above,...

There you go again, saying that I have said things that I DID NOT SAY!

You REALLY ought to quit that. In fact, if you cannot do so, I am going to REPORT YOU! I don't quite know to whom, but, I will find someone who understands how disingenuous you are insisting upon being. It is deliberate on your part and a very bad habit and I think you actually, perversely enjoy it.

But, if you continue to do this, I will become much less inclined to carry on a conversation about anything with you.

"... but marriage isn't a salve for pedophilia. It just isn't, no matter how many times you say it is."

I Never wrote that. Never, ever said that. Have never even indirectly implied that.

But, YOU, on the other hand, continue to misdirect and mischaracterize, deny and attempt to conflagrate. I am pretty sure you do this because you are a Roman Catholic intent on defending certain practices in your Church. Don't know for sure. But, you sure do act like it.

Whether or not you agree, the fact is that marriage, whether heterosexual or homosexual, through the mutual commitment of exclusivity of others in the relationship, actually does discourage pedophilia. It isn't a "salve" for it. It prevents it.

Furthermore, the presence of happily married couples in ANY social situation, if they are reasonably aware, is a natural safeguard for the welfare and protection of children.

Do some pedophiles manage to exist somewhat undetected who are also married? Of course they do. But, except in such places as the hidden bastions of self-enabling and self-perpetuating pedophile behavior such as the Roman Church has permitted to persist, the lone pedophile is usually recognized and found out.

Married couples, therefore, by identifying and providing the presence of non-pedophile, child-protecting adults in exclusive relationship, prevent the enabling and deny the hiding places that pedophiles need.

We now practice these safe-guarding behaviors in public schools, sports, Boy Scout gatherings and Church. Our married couples are asked to chaperone in every possible situation. It isn't perfect. But, they are proving to be effective in preventing ANY pedophile from achieving the isolation with the victim that is needed.

There. I managed to both write/say it and reiterate my opinion, without even using the last 400 characters of my allotment.

Mangle it, if you can. But, don't think that I am not watching for your deceitful, misdirecting denials.

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There. I managed to both write/say it and reiterate my opinion, without even using the last 400 characters of my allotment.
Mangle it, if you can. But, don't think that I am not watching for your deceitful, misdirecting denials.
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Ken-
Stop bullshitting.
The "it" in "Want to stop it?" was pedophilia.
IF you get lost while bloviating that doesn't make it my problem.
Here's what you said:
"These problems that the RCC and others have with pedophiles; let's see:
Public and private schools, daycare operations, Boy scouts, The Roman Catholic Church, University sports programs, etc., are places where children gather. So pedophiles, seeking opportunity, head for those doors.
The University of Penn St. found its much-loved and respected head coach discredited because he and other University officials stood by and allowed a single pedophile coach to operate in their midst.
The Boy Scouts didn't want to admit having the problem, either.
But, with the Roman Church it is much worse. There is an entire hidden system of enabling. Moreover, it is fully institutionalized and has been ongoing for centuries. CENTURIES!
Without doubt, some of the behaviors arose out of the roots of Roman culture itself.
Want to stop it? Allow priests to marry - that is, heterosexual opposite-sex AND homosexual same-sex couples. Then, if any of them are caught in an adulterous relationship, take the offender out of their priestly duties."
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No. It IS very much still a requirement. And, yes there IS a pronounced invitation - if not an actual conscription - to enter the clergy. The Roman Church insists that its body of clergy is, ultimately the penultimate authority. Of late, the RCC has only begun to accept Episcopal Church priests who have come already married. It is the beginning of the introduction of a very necessary change.
!!!! But, as to your message above,...
There you go again, saying that I have said things that I DID NOT SAY!
You REALLY ought to quit that. In fact, if you cannot do so, I am going to REPORT YOU! I don't quite know to whom, but, I will find someone who understands how disingenuous you are insisting upon being. It is deliberate on your part and a very bad habit and I think you actually, perversely enjoy it.
But, if you continue to do this, I will become much less inclined to carry on a conversation about anything with you.
"... but marriage isn't a salve for pedophilia. It just isn't, no matter how many times you say it is."
I Never wrote that. Never, ever said that. Have never even indirectly implied that.
But, YOU, on the other hand, continue to misdirect and mischaracterize, deny and attempt to conflagrate. I am pretty sure you do this because you are a Roman Catholic intent on defending certain practices in your Church. Don't know for sure. But, you sure do act like it.
Whether or not you agree, the fact is that marriage, whether heterosexual or homosexual, through the mutual commitment of exclusivity of others in the relationship, actually does discourage pedophilia. It isn't a "salve" for it. It prevents it.
Furthermore, the presence of happily married couples in ANY social situation, if they are reasonably aware, is a natural safeguard for the welfare and protection of children.
Do some pedophiles manage to exist somewhat undetected who are also married? Of course they do. But, except in such places as the hidden bastions of self-enabling and self-perpetuating pedophile behavior such as the Roman Church has permitted to persist, the lone pedophile is usually recognized and found out.
Married couples, therefore, by identifying and providing the presence of non-pedophile, child-protecting adults in exclusive relationship, prevent the enabling and deny the hiding places that pedophiles need.
We now practice these safe-guarding behaviors in public schools, sports, Boy Scout gatherings and Church. Our married couples are asked to chaperone in every possible situation. It isn't perfect. But, they are proving to be effective in preventing ANY pedophile from achieving the isolation with the victim that is needed.
There. I managed to both write/say it and reiterate my opinion, without even using the last 400 characters of my allotment.
Mangle it, if you can. But, don't think that I am not watching for your deceitful, misdirecting denials.
Rev. Ken
As Moynihan said, youre entitled to your opnion, not your own facts.

The clerical state is a purely voluntary undertaking. Period.
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There. I managed to both write/say it and reiterate my opinion, without even using the last 400 characters of my allotment.
Mangle it, if you can. But, don't think that I am not watching for your deceitful, misdirecting denials.
Rev. Ken
Ken-

Stop with the BS.

If you get lost while bloviating, don't make it my problem.

The "it" in "Want to stop it?" was "problems that the RCC and others have with pedophiles".

Here's what you wrote-you obviously lost track:

"These problems that the RCC and others have with pedophiles; let's see:
Public and private schools, daycare operations, Boy scouts, The Roman Catholic Church, University sports programs, etc., are places where children gather. So pedophiles, seeking opportunity, head for those doors.
The University of Penn St. found its much-loved and respected head coach discredited because he and other University officials stood by and allowed a single pedophile coach to operate in their midst.
The Boy Scouts didn't want to admit having the problem, either.
But, with the Roman Church it is much worse. There is an entire hidden system of enabling. Moreover, it is fully institutionalized and has been ongoing for centuries. CENTURIES!
Without doubt, some of the behaviors arose out of the roots of Roman culture itself.
Want to stop it? Allow priests to marry - that is, heterosexual opposite-sex AND homosexual same-sex couples. Then, if any of them are caught in an adulterous relationship, take the offender out of their priestly duties."

Marriage won't stop problems with pedophiles. You said it would-above-and it won't.

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Ken-
Stop bullshitting.
The "it" in "Want to stop it?" was pedophilia.
IF you get lost while bloviating that doesn't make it my problem.
Here's what you said:
"These problems that the RCC and others have with pedophiles; let's see:
Public and private schools, daycare operations, Boy scouts, The Roman Catholic Church, University sports programs, etc., are places where children gather. So pedophiles, seeking opportunity, head for those doors.
The University of Penn St. found its much-loved and respected head coach discredited because he and other University officials stood by and allowed a single pedophile coach to operate in their midst.
The Boy Scouts didn't want to admit having the problem, either.
But, with the Roman Church it is much worse. There is an entire hidden system of enabling. Moreover, it is fully institutionalized and has been ongoing for centuries. CENTURIES!
Without doubt, some of the behaviors arose out of the roots of Roman culture itself.
Want to stop it? Allow priests to marry - that is, heterosexual opposite-sex AND homosexual same-sex couples. Then, if any of them are caught in an adulterous relationship, take the offender out of their priestly duties."
What IS your problem????????

"Want to stop it?"

What do you think we are talking about here, anyway?

In case you haven't figured it out, we are talking about stopping institutionalized pedophile behavior with little boys in the Roman Catholic Church.

In the Episcopal Church, we don't allow a male adult or clergy to be alone with either a young boy or girl for any more than a very short period and EVERYBODY is supposed to know where the children are. Its a no-no.

In the BSA (Boy Scouts), policies are now in place to prevent ANY possible pedophile from taking advantage of a young boy. will it still happen? Maybe, rarely. But, the perpetrator is going to have a very difficult time succeeding undetected.

In our daughter's high school sports activities, no adult, man or woman, is allowed to be alone with a sports team kid, unless the child is their own. Not allowed, except in very specific circumstances and these are monitored.

You keep trying to pin me with claims that I have said we can stop people from becoming pedophiles. Never said that. What I HAVE said and am very proactively interested in doing is preventing pedophiles from successfully getting to have sex with little children!

I am also surely interested in preventing pedophiles from successfully getting into places of considerable authority and then operating from that position of advantage; especially under the protection of a supposedly righteous ethic of the priesthood of Christ Jesus - which is exactly what the Roman Catholic Church has been allowing and enabling for over the past THOUSAND YEARS!

That's it, bud. You've had your opportunity to contribute to the conversation and you have blown it.

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What IS your problem????????
"Want to stop it?"
What do you think we are talking about here, anyway?
In case you haven't figured it out, we are talking about stopping institutionalized pedophile behavior with little boys in the Roman Catholic Church.
In the Episcopal Church, we don't allow a male adult or clergy to be alone with either a young boy or girl for any more than a very short period and EVERYBODY is supposed to know where the children are. Its a no-no.
In the BSA (Boy Scouts), policies are now in place to prevent ANY possible pedophile from taking advantage of a young boy. will it still happen? Maybe, rarely. But, the perpetrator is going to have a very difficult time succeeding undetected.
In our daughter's high school sports activities, no adult, man or woman, is allowed to be alone with a sports team kid, unless the child is their own. Not allowed, except in very specific circumstances and these are monitored.
You keep trying to pin me with claims that I have said we can stop people from becoming pedophiles. Never said that. What I HAVE said and am very proactively interested in doing is preventing pedophiles from successfully getting to have sex with little children!
I am also surely interested in preventing pedophiles from successfully getting into places of considerable authority and then operating from that position of advantage; especially under the protection of a supposedly righteous ethic of the priesthood of Christ Jesus - which is exactly what the Roman Catholic Church has been allowing and enabling for over the past THOUSAND YEARS!
That's it, bud. You've had your opportunity to contribute to the conversation and you have blown it.
Rev. Ken
You don't even know what you're arguing.

Now you're all about organizations' precautionary measures-you never even alluded to it before.

You shoehorned the celibacy thing in numerous times and are now pouting that someone actually called you on your illogic.

Marriage still doesn't deter pedophiles from having sex with children.

You don't want a conversation-you want to make sermons and hear everyone tell you how erudite you are.

Think I'm wrong? This comment I'm responding to has not one thing in common with your days long "celibacy breaks it, marriage will fix it..." screeds.

Better stick to the pulpit-they don't talk back.

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The pedophiles discussed here will have to answer to a higher authority when their time comes. Doesn't matter if they are priests, brothers, teachers. Why worry about something you have no control over. Although you do have control over to whom you leave your children in the care of. Stop looking for free babysitting as nothing is free in this world.
Truthfully if I had children and this happened to them,I wouldn't need the law.
Pedophile would not make it to court on good limbs if at all.
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How does it all start?
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I don't believe marriage is the answer to stopping this disgusting act. If they have to have their way, there are plenty of ladies of the evening out there looking for work.

Peace and Civility to all,

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Boy this thread is off topic...
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Sorry MiddleWay, you are not mean, my mistake. You are correct in being off topic. I just read article abaout Bishop Conley. He sounds marevlous, the people of Lincoln must be happy with him. I would love to read good posts about our Catholic Church here. Unfortunately all I've found on these blogs is bashing of our belies. sometimes we stumble just as I did here.
Sometimes I go out and look for the bashers blogs and wow, found a few, truly horrible, no wonder they come to our blogs for bashing. We are generally nice to them.

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Joe's priest is selling meth!!!!

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Sorry MiddleWay, you are not mean, my mistake. You are correct in being off topic. I just read article abaout Bishop Conley. He sounds marevlous, the people of Lincoln must be happy with him. I would love to read good posts about our Catholic Church here. Unfortunately all I've found on these blogs is bashing of our belies. sometimes we stumble just as I did here.
Sometimes I go out and look for the bashers blogs and wow, found a few, truly horrible, no wonder they come to our blogs for bashing. We are generally nice to them.
Why not avoid people like me who are against the church saying OUR teaching as the rcc are more important than the teachings of Jesus?

I'm still not being mean, I just disagree with the rcc and YES, I was a member - going as far as graduating seminary and studying in Rome.

It's alright to disagree, I believe that's why Jesus said my Father's house has many mansions. He speaks to each of us in His own way and we respond (I wish more did respond) to the best of our ability.

Stay where you feel inspired and uplifted, unless you are willing to feel a little uncomfortable. Nothing wrong with feeling a little uncomfortable at times either, it usually means growth.

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Joe's priest is selling meth!!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/kevi... |maing7|dl1|sec3_lnk3&pLid =258556&utm_hp_ref=fb& src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=1 358652,b=facebook
From little boys to meth, how holy.....
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Why not avoid people like me who are against the church saying OUR teaching as the rcc are more important than the teachings of Jesus?
I'm still not being mean, I just disagree with the rcc and YES, I was a member - going as far as graduating seminary and studying in Rome.
It's alright to disagree, I believe that's why Jesus said my Father's house has many mansions. He speaks to each of us in His own way and we respond (I wish more did respond) to the best of our ability.
Stay where you feel inspired and uplifted, unless you are willing to feel a little uncomfortable. Nothing wrong with feeling a little uncomfortable at times either, it usually means growth.
If I may ask, What turned you away from catholic church? Doesn't the catholic church teach what Jesus taught? I know they change with the times but Jesus's instructions are never revised.
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Are we not suppose to focus on what's above and not what's on earth. currently reading the newly revised St. Ignatius Bible which was recommended to me by parish priest. Did read some of other catholic bibles, which were interesting but due to the old language, difficult to read and absorb. This new one, same statements but more in the modern day language, quite interesting stories and enjoy the reading.
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I don't understand your statement "church saying OUR teaching as the rcc are more important than the teachings of Jesus?" Could you explain this to me. From my understanding, nothing is more important than Jesus. I've never heard anything like your statement come out of church.

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Why not avoid people like you? The pope has declared this year the year of evangelization, the year of faith. Even if it wasn't the year of evangelization I always try to live my faith and by doing this try to show the lost souls the loving God & return to God therefore return to the catholic church. The only church that can trace it's roots back to the Aposils. The other religions are spin offs of our church. Made up by man to his liking. The popes express the desire of a "Universal Church" which is good, whatever floats your boat about God is a good thing. Don't you think they are just trying to bring unity into our world. One God, one world...
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I don't feel you are mean. You may have been disappoint at some point in your studies but isn't this part of life. Thank God regularly for all that you have.
Thanks for showing your kindness.

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If I may ask, What turned you away from catholic church? Doesn't the catholic church teach what Jesus taught? I know they change with the times but Jesus's instructions are never revised.
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Are we not suppose to focus on what's above and not what's on earth. currently reading the newly revised St. Ignatius Bible which was recommended to me by parish priest. Did read some of other catholic bibles, which were interesting but due to the old language, difficult to read and absorb. This new one, same statements but more in the modern day language, quite interesting stories and enjoy the reading.
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I don't understand your statement "church saying OUR teaching as the rcc are more important than the teachings of Jesus?" Could you explain this to me. From my understanding, nothing is more important than Jesus. I've never heard anything like your statement come out of church.
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Why not avoid people like you? The pope has declared this year the year of evangelization, the year of faith. Even if it wasn't the year of evangelization I always try to live my faith and by doing this try to show the lost souls the loving God & return to God therefore return to the catholic church. The only church that can trace it's roots back to the Aposils. The other religions are spin offs of our church. Made up by man to his liking. The popes express the desire of a "Universal Church" which is good, whatever floats your boat about God is a good thing. Don't you think they are just trying to bring unity into our world. One God, one world...
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I don't feel you are mean. You may have been disappoint at some point in your studies but isn't this part of life. Thank God regularly for all that you have.
Thanks for showing your kindness.
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Catholic Girl, you and I may believe differently about church things, but you are one of the nicest and most charitable people here. You set a wonderful example for your religion. I have a tremendous amount of respect for your loyalty and you are very knowledgeable. It's my good fortune to have met you. God bless!
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Thanks Sherlayne, you have taught me alot about respect here.
GO RAVENS!! isn't God wonderful, I asked that they win and as you can see, they did.
next stop, SUPER BOWL !!

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Catholic Girl wrote:
Thanks Sherlayne, you have taught me alot about respect here.
GO RAVENS!! isn't God wonderful, I asked that they win and as you can see, they did.
next stop, SUPER BOWL !!
Dear CG,

I'll wager that both Harbaugh brothers are praying earnestly for basically the same thing. But, only one of them will get his hands on the trophy.

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