Pope Names 4 New Saints

[ELIAS IBARRA]

Sherlayne wrote:

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I always offer prayers for someone who's died. I don't know if it does any good...but I do it anyway. I figure it can't hurt. Do I believe we can help the deceased in any way? Not really. But I'll keep on praying.

Sherlayne,

Your intent is good but it will no longer benefit the dead!!! God's judgment is based on the acts of the living whether these are good or bad!!! The dead can no longer do anything under the sun!!! So, only the action of the living is the basis for God's reward or punishment!!!

You can only help the living person but not the dead!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

[ELIAS IBARRA]

History would attest that the Catholic Church had employed landgrabbing as a means to enrich the Vatican coffer:

"Pagan temples were either closed, transformed into Christian shrines or demolished. Their properties were summarily added to the Church's patrimony. The wealth of sundry religions was mercilessly expropriated, their clergy dismissed or persecuted, when not civilly or even physically obliterated. The transfer of political might made an easy transition into acquisitional power, the Roman Catholic Church set in earnest to promote a policy of swift appropriation of real estae, of highly renumerative governmental posts, and even of speculative monetary and commercial enterprises."

Reference:(The Vatican Billions, p.21)

The Roman Catholic Church is a landgrabber!!! It is no wonder why an ex-Roman Catholic priest, Adrian Hastings, has this to say against his religion:

"Church of sinners and of fools."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 126.)

"the power of the Church (Catholic) has been used in history to do the devil's work."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 127.)
So, are popes "vicars of Christ"??? A BIG NO!!! What are they "vicars" of??? Ruler of Space, Satan!!!

Improve your low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

[ELIAS IBARRA]

The un-Christian acts of Catholic popes are not only confined to landgrabbings!!! They harbor mistresses, as in the case of Marozia, who became the cynosure of the sexual perversions of Pope Sergius III at the age of fifteen in year 906!!! The mentioned pope had a child with the fifteeen years old, and, the product of this sexual liaison subsequently became Pope John XI:

"Theodora, the wife of Theophylact, a chief official of the papal court, and her daughter Marozia made and unmade popes practically at will throughout much of the tenth century, a period aptly known as the 'nadir of the papacy'. In 906, Marozia, at the age of fifteen, became the mistress of Pope Sergius III. They had one child, John, who subsequently became Pope John XI. In 914, Theodora's lover, Bishop John of Ravenna, became Pope Pope John X. Marozia, after having enjoyed a succession of lovers, married Guido, Duke of Tuscany. The newlyweds conspired to unseat the Pope, who was her mother's lover. Joining with John's enemies, Marozia and Guido cast Pope John X in prison, and in 928, had him suffocated. In 931, Marozia raised to the Holy See Pope John XI, her illegitimate son by Pope Segius III....In 955, Marozia's grandson became Pope John XII and distinguished his pontificate with debauched orgies in the Lateran Palace."

Reference:(Paul Williams, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About the Catholic Church But Were Afraid to Ask For Fear of Excommunication. New York: Doubleday, 1989, p.17-18)

Ex-Roman Catholic priest Adrian Hastings' claim that "the power of the Church (Catholic) has been used in history to do the devil's work" is again proven!!! Women, both young and old, made and unmade Roman Catholic popes practically at will throughout much of the tenth century, a period apptly known as the 'nadir of the papacy'!!! God and Christ had nothing to do with the acts of these women and the sexual perversions of the popes!!!

Take notice also that Marozia did not marry her first lover when she was fifteen, Pope Segius III !!! She opted for a much-better dog hybrid, Guido, Duke of Tuscany, whom she married!!! And the newlyweds conspired to unseat Pope John X (Bishop John of Ravenna, lover of Theodora, the mother of Marozia)!!! Both joined with Pope John X enemies and cast the mentioned pope to prison, and in year 928, had him murdered by suffocation!!! And in year 931, Marozia raised to the Holy See Pope John XI, her illegitimate son by Pope Sergius III!!!

Take notice also that Marozia's grandson became Pope John XII in year 955 and he distinguished his pontificate with debauched orgies in the Lateran Palace!!!

So, are popes "vicars of Christ"??? A BIG NO!!! What are they "vicars" of??? Their father, the devil!!!

Improve your low I.Q.!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

[ELIAS IBARRA]

One of the damning statements made by ex-Roman Catholic priests, Adrian Hastings, is posted below:

"the power of the Church (Catholic) has been used in history to do the devil's work."

Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 127.)

One of the devil's work was done by Pope Alexander VI of the Roman Catholic Church together with his lover, Lucrezia, when attending a dinner in the apartment of Caesar in the Vatican!!! Fifty naked Roman harlots chased chestnuts that were scattered all over the floor and the prosties were all naked Roman Catholics!!!

"On October 30, 1501, Burchard described a dinner in the apartment of Caesar in the Vatican at which fifty naked Roman harlots chased chestnuts that were scattered over the floor, while Pope Alexander (VI) and Lucrezia looked on with amusement."

Reference:(Reference:(Paul Williams, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About the Catholic Church But Were Afraid to Ask For Fear of Excommunication. New York: Doubleday, 1989, p.19)

Yet, the pope who was amused while watching naked Roman Catholic prosties, was one of those who claimed that he is the Vicar of Christ:

"VICAR OF CHRIST. The Pope, visible head of the Church on earth, acting for and in the place of Christ. He possesses supreme ecclesiastical authority in the Catholic Church. This title for the Pope dates from at least the eight century and gradually replaced the former title,'Vicar of St. Peter.' Its biblical basis is Christ's commission of Peter to 'feed my lambs, feed my sheep'(John 21:15-17)."

Reference: The Modern Catholic Dictionary, page 561.

So, are popes "vicars of Christ"??? A BIG NO!!! What are they "vicars" of??? OF THE OLD SERPENT, SATAN!!!

Get out from the Roman Catholic Church!!! You have nothing to lose but the misbehavior, arrogance, and the un-Christian acts of the popes and priests!!!

Improve you low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

[ELIAS IBARRA]

One of the famous charity works was done by Pope Alexander VI of the Roman Catholic Church together with his lover, Lucrezia, when attending a dinner in the apartment of Caesar in the Vatican!!! Fifty naked Roman harlots chased chestnuts that were scattered all over the floor and the prosties were all naked Roman Catholics!!! These chestnuts were the charities of the pope and his lover and the method of distribution was by scattering it all over the floor:

"On October 30, 1501, Burchard described a dinner in the apartment of Caesar in the Vatican at which fifty naked Roman harlots chased chestnuts that were scattered over the floor, while Pope Alexander (VI) and Lucrezia looked on with amusement."

Reference:(Reference:(Paul Williams, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About the Catholic Church But Were Afraid to Ask For Fear of Excommunication. New York: Doubleday, 1989, p.19)

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

[Lol]

Elias is showing his love of naked harlots, chestnuts and prosties...a defense of his human weakness and immorality while continuously spreading angry and hate words against the Catholics.

Yes, he is possessed by his master, Satan. Catholics let's pray for him! Alleluya, Alleluya, Praise the Lord!

[oral roberts]

Lol wrote:

Elias is showing his love of naked harlots, chestnuts and prosties...a defense of his human weakness and immorality while continuously spreading angry and hate words against the Catholics.

Yes, he is possessed by his master, Satan. Catholics let's pray for him! Alleluya, Alleluya, Praise the Lord!

The non existent satan or god have nothing to do with it.

[Sherlayne]

Lol wrote:

Elias is showing his love of naked harlots, chestnuts and prosties...a defense of his human weakness and immorality while continuously spreading angry and hate words against the Catholics.
Yes, he is possessed by his master, Satan. Catholics let's pray for him! Alleluya, Alleluya, Praise the Lord!

And your pedophile priests - nothing happens to them! And you know why? Because people like you keep making excuses for them, which makes me believe you're just like them.

[Ozzy]

That is completely ridiculous to think that any Catholics would make excuses for priests being pedophiles. Im sure if you spoke to any Catholic, they would want these priests removed and given appropriate punishments. Im sure it sickens them to know that someone used the church for their own personal evil deeds. As well, Im sure it sickens any Catholics when these priests have been protected and the protectors are of equal guilt and should be punished as well. If you believe that Catholics support this kind of behavior then you are believing that all Catholics are pedophiles. And therefore, you have a very sick and disgusting mind.

[Sherlayne]

Ozzy wrote:

That is completely ridiculous to think that any Catholics would make excuses for priests being pedophiles. Im sure if you spoke to any Catholic, they would want these priests removed and given appropriate punishments. Im sure it sickens them to know that someone used the church for their own personal evil deeds. As well, Im sure it sickens any Catholics when these priests have been protected and the protectors are of equal guilt and should be punished as well. If you believe that Catholics support this kind of behavior then you are believing that all Catholics are pedophiles. And therefore, you have a very sick and disgusting mind.

I know a lot of Catholics who are enraged by the sinning priests. So why aren't they being punished? Can you answer that?? Sick mind, huh? Me? I never molested a little kid. THEY did...they're not sick? Or are you defending them? Do YOU think it's okay, oh Healthy-Minded One?

[Sherlayne]

ELIAS IBARRA wrote:

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Sherlayne,
Your intent is good but it will no longer benefit the dead!!! God's judgment is based on the acts of the living whether these are good or bad!!! The dead can no longer do anything under the sun!!! So, only the action of the living is the basis for God's reward or punishment!!!
You can only help the living person but not the dead!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

I guess it's just a habit I acquired in childhood, from a religion that loves kids...a little too much at times.

But I agree - we don't have any power at all to help them. Thanks for the post.

[Sherlayne]

Lol wrote:

Elias is showing his love of naked harlots, chestnuts and prosties...a defense of his human weakness and immorality while continuously spreading angry and hate words against the Catholics.
Yes, he is possessed by his master, Satan. Catholics let's pray for him! Alleluya, Alleluya, Praise the Lord!

Elias is a much more charitable person than YOU are. But it's okay - we'll all pray for you.

[Sherlayne]

ELIAS IBARRA wrote:

One of the damning statements made by ex-Roman Catholic priests, Adrian Hastings, is posted below:
"the power of the Church (Catholic) has been used in history to do the devil's work."
Reference:(Hastings, Adrian. In Filial Disobedience, p. 127.)
One of the devil's work was done by Pope Alexander VI of the Roman Catholic Church together with his lover, Lucrezia, when attending a dinner in the apartment of Caesar in the Vatican!!! Fifty naked Roman harlots chased chestnuts that were scattered all over the floor and the prosties were all naked Roman Catholics!!!
"On October 30, 1501, Burchard described a dinner in the apartment of Caesar in the Vatican at which fifty naked Roman harlots chased chestnuts that were scattered over the floor, while Pope Alexander (VI) and Lucrezia looked on with amusement."
Reference:(Reference:(Paul Williams, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About the Catholic Church But Were Afraid to Ask For Fear of Excommunication. New York: Doubleday, 1989, p.19)
Yet, the pope who was amused while watching naked Roman Catholic prosties, was one of those who claimed that he is the Vicar of Christ:
"VICAR OF CHRIST. The Pope, visible head of the Church on earth, acting for and in the place of Christ. He possesses supreme ecclesiastical authority in the Catholic Church. This title for the Pope dates from at least the eight century and gradually replaced the former title,'Vicar of St. Peter.' Its biblical basis is Christ's commission of Peter to 'feed my lambs, feed my sheep'(John 21:15-17)."
Reference: The Modern Catholic Dictionary, page 561.
So, are popes "vicars of Christ"??? A BIG NO!!! What are they "vicars" of??? OF THE OLD SERPENT, SATAN!!!
Get out from the Roman Catholic Church!!! You have nothing to lose but the misbehavior, arrogance, and the un-Christian acts of the popes and priests!!!
Improve you low I.Q.!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

Now my dear Elias - how can that be true? You know the RCC doesn't approve of sex!

[Lol]

Sherlayne wrote:

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Elias is a much more charitable person than YOU are. But it's okay - we'll all pray for you.

And you don't know me Elias pretending to be Sherlayne...If you are charitable, well and good, but to brag it to the whole world is something not commendable. Thank you for your prayers especially if you pray for yourself and Elias.

[Lol]

Sherlayne wrote:

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And your pedophile priests - nothing happens to them! And you know why? Because people like you keep making excuses for them, which makes me believe you're just like them.

Hello Elias, you continue your Devilish preaching of maliciously judging everybody and now charging me as making excuses of pedophile priests. You're wrong and no amount of explanation will change your devilish mind, so I will continue praying for you real hard.

[Sherlayne]

Lol wrote:

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And you don't know me Elias pretending to be Sherlayne...If you are charitable, well and good, but to brag it to the whole world is something not commendable. Thank you for your prayers especially if you pray for yourself and Elias.

To the very best of my knowledge, Elias has NEVER pretended to be me! He's my friend and I trust him. Whatever gave you that idea anyway? You really read into things, don't you? And what am I bragging to the world about? This is a forum, hardly the New York or Los Angeles Times. If you've got a complaint for me, at least make it realistic.

[ronone]

youtube.com/watch... …The Pope named 4 Saints? Eeny, meeny, miny, moe.
The Pope got some dudes?

[Lol]

Sherlayne wrote:

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To the very best of my knowledge, Elias has NEVER pretended to be me! He's my friend and I trust him. Whatever gave you that idea anyway? You really read into things, don't you? And what am I bragging to the world about? This is a forum, hardly the New York or Los Angeles Times. If you've got a complaint for me, at least make it realistic.

There was a time he used the name "Sherlayne". Now, you're acting as the spokesperson of Elias. Yes he never pretended to be bragging and insulting everything Catholic. Lol, you're so unrealistic wanting "realistic". Start asking Elias to be realistic.

[amc]

Lol wrote:

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There was a time he used the name "Sherlayne". Now, you're acting as the spokesperson of Elias. Yes he never pretended to be bragging and insulting everything Catholic. Lol, you're so unrealistic wanting "realistic". Start asking Elias to be realistic.

i am a catholic from birth.

for the horrendous crimes that the catholic church has perpetrated against the filipino people for centuries they should be outlawed and banished from the country.

instead the churches flock of mentally defective brainwashed sheep regal them and put them on pedestals and bow to their every word as if THEY WERE GOD HIMSELF.

the flips under-nourished uneducated weak and superstitious minds are a ripe field for picking and all religions know it and use them to their full advantage.

you included.

[Ozzy]

"I know a lot of Catholics who are enraged by the sinning priests. So why aren't they being punished? Can you answer that?? Sick mind, huh? Me? I never molested a little kid. THEY did...they're not sick? Or are you defending them? Do YOU think it's okay, oh Healthy-Minded One?"

This doesnt even dignify a response. You are really warped minded. I'll respond anyway.

Im sorry you are not intelligent enough to understand my comments. As I said, if you spoke to any Catholic, they would want these priests removed and given appropriate punishments. Of course those who have molested are sick. What is wrong with YOU that you can understand my statement? You have a really fucked up mind to try and turn that around. Where did you see that I am defending ANYONE who molests a child? Easy to see you are Iglesia ni Manalo because you are twisting what someone is saying and making it negative for your own pat-me-on-the-back and look-at-me benefit.

In defense of any of the priests who have never done anything wrong and are in their church for the right reasons, I feel bad for them because they are lumped with the rest of those who have used the church for evil deeds.

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah, Sherlayne!