Pope Names 4 New Saints

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Pope Benedict XVI named four new saints Sunday from France, Malta, the Netherlands and Poland at a ceremony in St.
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sumisilangko

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Only God has the power to decide wether a mortal being is to be considered as "saint" or not. Anything within the realm of spirit, let no man interfere. There is only one father in spirit, that is Jesus Christ. All the others are usurping power that is not theirs or is beyond them. That's what I learned from Jesus Christ.
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Jun 4, 2007
 
Exactly my thoughts! We will see who the saints are, when we get to Heaven. Jesus soon put the sons of thunder right when they tried to dictate to Jesus where they wanted to be in Heaven! The judgement is for Jesus, and no-one else. We are all called to be humble servants, with no-one elevated. If a man is the Prime Minister, he is to be as humble in his heart as the old lady who pours out the cups of tea after the church service. We are all servants, at the foot of our dear Lord. And we are called to serve each other, and minister to each other, in humble and grateful worship.
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Jun 4, 2007
 
How does a man name God's Saints anyway? Where did this teaching come from?
Sheryl

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Jun 4, 2007
 
"Declaring people saints" -- ridiculous! Every pope wants to do SOMETHING to be remembered for; their "power" goes to their heads! NOBODY knows who becomes saints! And remember, two miracles are required in order for a person to be declared a "saint" -- not ONE miracle, but TWO. Why? And if you'll notice, the church will manage to find TWO miracles per saint -- somehow, some way.
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Jun 4, 2007
 
no one can name saints but GOD.But some people on earth give their lives to GOD and live in a very faithful way that's way they are claimed saints by the POPE especially after all the miracles they do.So don't be a non believer and have faith in GOD and the son of GOD JESUS and you might be a saint too and understand what's is being a saint. Last words :believe believe believe and have faith in you creater
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Jun 4, 2007
 
I am sure all this crap are made up by the RCC ,thinking they are gods and playing gods.

All but false religion.
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Jun 4, 2007
 
What are RCC, Negrense? I don't know that, what does it stand for?

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sumisilangko wrote:
What are RCC, Negrense? I don't know that, what does it stand for?
Roman Catholic Church
jan dhs california

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In-HIS-Service wrote:
How does a man name God's Saints anyway? Where did this teaching come from?
It's a really dicey interpretation of "...whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven..."
Really, really dicey!
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Sheryl wrote:
"Declaring people saints" -- ridiculous! Every pope wants to do SOMETHING to be remembered for; their "power" goes to their heads! NOBODY knows who becomes saints! And remember, two miracles are required in order for a person to be declared a "saint" -- not ONE miracle, but TWO. Why? And if you'll notice, the church will manage to find TWO miracles per saint -- somehow, some way.
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Declaring a person a Saint is nothing more than the vatican recognizing that a person has lived an exemplary life and that people are to imitate his/her life.
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Jun 4, 2007
 
I hope that the new saints will not be an occasion for devotionalism. Rather it will be an occasion for some real activism like Saint George Preca initiated and maintained.
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Jun 4, 2007
 
Here are some of the also rans:

St Alin
St Anley Matthews
St Erry Wogan
St Even Fry
St Ing
St Opina Minit
St Opmuckin Abaht
St Upidid Iot
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Jesus also said, to his Apostles,
" Who's sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them. Who's sins you shall retain, they are retained."

Christ's church lives in those He assigned the task of such ministry, and those who are their successors up until this day. The Pope is the current person assigned to the job Christ originally gave Saint Peter. It is that lineage of life by an ever living GOD that allows the Pope to make such decisions in the present day. Anyone who takes the effort to learn of the lives of the people the Pope has Cannonized, would see the wisdom of God in this action of His 2000 year old church, by its assigned vicar.

It is the decadent world that celebrates the people who are immoral and greedy. It falls to Christ and His church to celebrate those who God recognizes as celebrated for their piety, wisdom, and goodness when they lived amongst us. God celebrates people like Mother Theresa, and wishes the rest of us to emulate her love, kindness and charity. He recognizes this world usually celebrates the opposite, which undoubtedly explains why, in His Wisdom, His church Cannonizes Saints. Otherwise no one in this world would.
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Jun 4, 2007
 
Ed Burke wrote:
Jesus also said, to his Apostles,
" Who's sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them. Who's sins you shall retain, they are retained."
Christ's church lives in those He assigned the task of such ministry, and those who are their successors up until this day. The Pope is the current person assigned to the job Christ originally gave Saint Peter. It is that lineage of life by an ever living GOD that allows the Pope to make such decisions in the present day. Anyone who takes the effort to learn of the lives of the people the Pope has Cannonized, would see the wisdom of God in this action of His 2000 year old church, by its assigned vicar.
It is the decadent world that celebrates the people who are immoral and greedy. It falls to Christ and His church to celebrate those who God recognizes as celebrated for their piety, wisdom, and goodness when they lived amongst us. God celebrates people like Mother Theresa, and wishes the rest of us to emulate her love, kindness and charity. He recognizes this world usually celebrates the opposite, which undoubtedly explains why, in His Wisdom, His church Cannonizes Saints. Otherwise no one in this world would.
I stand corrected and chastened. You are right and I am naughty for making fun. Sorry.
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Jun 4, 2007
 
I think Elizabeth Fry ought to be celebrated in this lovely way too.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

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Ed Burke wrote:
Jesus also said, to his Apostles,
" Who's sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them. Who's sins you shall retain, they are retained."
Christ's church lives in those He assigned the task of such ministry, and those who are their successors up until this day. The Pope is the current person assigned to the job Christ originally gave Saint Peter. It is that lineage of life by an ever living GOD that allows the Pope to make such decisions in the present day. Anyone who takes the effort to learn of the lives of the people the Pope has Cannonized, would see the wisdom of God in this action of His 2000 year old church, by its assigned vicar.
It is the decadent world that celebrates the people who are immoral and greedy. It falls to Christ and His church to celebrate those who God recognizes as celebrated for their piety, wisdom, and goodness when they lived amongst us. God celebrates people like Mother Theresa, and wishes the rest of us to emulate her love, kindness and charity. He recognizes this world usually celebrates the opposite, which undoubtedly explains why, in His Wisdom, His church Cannonizes Saints. Otherwise no one in this world would.
They're dead, why not do something while they are alive?
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They're dead, why not do something while they are alive?
Most true saints don't draw attention to themselves and shun any attention. One example is when Mother Theresa was being acclaimed by some media pundit interviewing her she said that she was simply a pencil in God's hands. Because of this Mother Theresa was unusual in that we could recognize her as a living saint. Saint Bernadette of Lourdes was ridiculed and threatened for a long time, as were the children at Fatima. is it any wonder a true saint wants to be alone with God and do his work unnoticed.
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Live Saintly Life wrote:
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Declaring a person a Saint is nothing more than the vatican recognizing that a person has lived an exemplary life and that people are to imitate his/her life.
That's reasonable. But why do they have to have done 2 miracles?(which really are only done by God through people) Why pray to the saints? Why not simply pray directly to God? I've never had Him say to me, "I'm busy right now. Please find one of the saints." I'm not being facetious. I really want to know the rationale.
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Live Saintly Life wrote:
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Declaring a person a Saint is nothing more than the vatican recognizing that a person has lived an exemplary life and that people are to imitate his/her life.
Yes, I realize they are role models. I just don't believe the pope (or any other human) has the right OR knowledge to declare someone a "saint". NOBODY knows what goes on in God's kingdom, though many claim to.
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Live Saintly Life wrote:
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Declaring a person a Saint is nothing more than the vatican recognizing that a person has lived an exemplary life and that people are to imitate his/her life.
Another thing, let's get serious and realistic here. There is a "saint" for every damn imaginable cause, including a saint to pray to when one's KEYS are lost. Downright laughable.

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