St. Peter's overflows for historic day of 4 popes

Apr 27, 2014 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Wichita Eagle

A devotee touches to pray at the statue of Roman Catholic Pope John Paul II on display with other relics of the late Pope as well as Pope John XXIII in celebration of their canonization or the elevation to sainthood Sunday, April 27, 2014, at suburban Quezon city, northeast of Manila, Philippines.

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ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#23 May 4, 2014
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
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Whether you use 'most' or 'more' you are still COMPLETELY WRONG.
Did the 'world wide walk' draw 3 billion viewers world wide? No
Is the 'world wide walk' as big and significant and rich in history as the Olympic games? no.
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

The Worldwide Walk of the Iglesia ni Cristo is more significant than the Olympic Games because the command to help the poor comes from God!!! Anything that comes from God has more value than the futility of man's quest for supremacy which is replete with cheating and thus medals awarded were taken back!!!

It is to be noted also that Olympic Games were scenes for murders amd mayhem!!! But the Iglesia ni Cristo Worldwide Walk was a display of true Christianity's concern for the life and welfare of the poor!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#24 May 12, 2014
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
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Whether you use 'most' or 'more' you are still COMPLETELY WRONG.
Did the 'world wide walk' draw 3 billion viewers world wide? No
Is the 'world wide walk' as big and significant and rich in history as the Olympic games? no.
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

The number to surpass was only lesser by one half of the total Iglesia ni Cristo attendance!!! Why should we make millions attend if the number to beat is only a couple of hundred thousands!!!

But look at our Nationwide Evangelical Mission, it was attended by millions!!! It is here reported in TOPIX!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

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#25 May 12, 2014
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,
The Worldwide Walk of the Iglesia ni Cristo is more significant than the Olympic Games because the command to help the poor comes from God!!! Anything that comes from God has more value than the futility of man's quest for supremacy which is replete with cheating and thus medals awarded were taken back!!!
It is to be noted also that Olympic Games were scenes for murders amd mayhem!!! But the Iglesia ni Cristo Worldwide Walk was a display of true Christianity's concern for the life and welfare of the poor!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Your world wide walk is a PR stunt from the MANALO FAMILY. Show me the exact words in the bible where it says 'turn away typhoon victims seeking shelter in the storm but do a walk for typhoon victims 5 months after the fact for a Guinness world record.'- give me the exact verse. Remember don't go beyond what is written.

It's just as man made as the Olympics only far less noticed and far less significant!
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#26 May 21, 2014
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
<quoted text>
Whether you use 'most' or 'more' you are still COMPLETELY WRONG.
Did the 'world wide walk' draw 3 billion viewers world wide? No
Is the 'world wide walk' as big and significant and rich in history as the Olympic games? no.
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

If your allegation is true, the Catholic Church would had not sold its numerous chapels to the Iglesia ni Cristo and not reported in the tri-media as a religion undergoing the pains of the so-called Great Religious Recession"!!!

The truth makes the pagans hurting!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#27 May 21, 2014
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
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Your world wide walk is a PR stunt from the MANALO FAMILY. Show me the exact words in the bible where it says 'turn away typhoon victims seeking shelter in the storm but do a walk for typhoon victims 5 months after the fact for a Guinness world record.'- give me the exact verse. Remember don't go beyond what is written.
It's just as man made as the Olympics only far less noticed and far less significant!
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

The Bible says "love they neighbors as you love yourself "!!! Even if you are gossipmongering against us, God's commands take precedence always!!!

And even if we see that the Mother Harlot and Daughter abandon the poor!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#28 May 29, 2014
Marami ang naniniwala na ang aral na si Cristo ay Diyos ay mula sa Biblia; na si Cristo mismo ang nagpakilala na Siya ay Diyos: na ang mga alagad ni Cristo ay tinawag Siyang Diyos; na sa mga apostol nagmula ang aral na Diyos si Cristo. Marahil ay magugulat kayo kung maririnig ninyo mula mismo sa mga nagtuturo na si Cristo ay Diyos na ang aral na ito ay wala sa Biblia. Tunghayan natin ang pagtatapat ng isang paring Katoliko na si Richard McBrien, sa kanyang aklat na Catholicism:

“Karaniwang binabanggit ng Bagong Tipan ang tungkol sa 'Diyos', ang Siya ring Diyos na gumagawa sa Matandang Tipan: ang Diyos ni Abraham, ni Isaac, at ni Jacob. Ang mga manunulat ng Bagong Tipan ay hindi man lamang binabanggit si Jesus bilang 'Diyos'.

“The New Testametn speaks simply of 'God', the same God who was at work in the Old Testament: the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob. The New Testament writers do not even ordinarily speak of Jesus as 'God”...”

Reference: McBrien, Richard P. Catholicism, Third Edition, p. 282. Great Britain: Geoffrey Chapman, 1951.

Bagama't ang paring Katoliko na si Richard McBrien ay naniwalang si Cristo ay Diyos, inamin niya na ang mga manunulat ng Bagong Tipan ay hindi nagpahayag na si Cristo ay Diyos.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#29 May 29, 2014
Isa pang paring Katoliko, si Raymond Brown, ay nagpahayag din na si Jesus ay hindi tinawag na Diyos sa mga Ebanghelyo Sinoptiko. Tunghayan natin ang mga isinasaad sa kanyang aklat na Jesus: God and Man:

“Si Jesus ay hindi kailanman tinawag na Diyos sa mga Ebanghelyo Sinoptiko, at ang isang talatang katulad ng Mar. 10:18 ay tila sinasarhan ang posibilidad na ginamit ni Jesus ang titulong iyon para sa Kaniyang sarili. Maging ang ikaapat na ebanghelyo (Juan) ay hindi kailanman inilarawan si Jesus na tiyakang nagsabi na Siya ay Diyos. Ang mga sermon sa Mga Gawa tungkol sa pasimula ng gawaing Cristiano ay hindi binabanggit si Jesus bilang Diyos. Kaya, walang dahilan upang isiping si Jesus ay tinawag na Diyos sa mga unang yugto ng tradisyon ng Bagong Tipan. Ang negatibong konklusyong ito ay pinatutunayan ng katotohanang hindi ginamit ni Pablo ang titulo sa alinman sa kaniyang mga epistola na naisulat bago ang taong 58 ...”

“Jesus is never called God in the Synoptic Gospels, and a passage like Mk. 10:18 would seem to preclude the possibility that Jesus used the title of himself. Even the fourth Gospel never portrays Jesus as saying specifically that he is God. The sermons which Acts attributes to the beginning of the Christian mission do not speak of Jesus as God. Thus, there is no reason that Jesus was called God in the earliest layers of the New Testament tradition. This negative conclusion is substantiated by the fact that Paul does not use the title in any epistle written before 58 ...”

Reference: Brown, Raymund F., Jesus: God and Man, p. 30. Milwaukee: The Bruce Publishing Company, n.d.

Naniwala rin ang paring Katoliko na si Raymond Brown na si Cristo ay Diyos, ngunit inamin niya na si Jesus ay hindi tinawag na Diyos sa mga Ebanghelyo Sinoptiko, kahit na sa ikaapat na Ebanghelyo, gayon din sa aklat ng Mga Gawa at maging sa mga epistola ni Apostol Pablo.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#30 Jun 5, 2014
Hindi lamang sa hanay ng mga paring Katoliko may pag-amin na hindi ipinahayag ng Bagong Tipan na si Cristo ay Diyos. Ganito rin ang natuklasan ng mga teologong Protestante. Tunghayan natin ang sinabi ni Allan Richardson sa kaniyang aklat na An Introduction to the Theology of the New Testament:

“Saanman sa Bagong Tipan ay walang tuwiran o tahasang binaggit na si Cristo ay Diyos...”

“The New Testament nowhere says tout court that Christ is God.”

Reference: Ricahrdson, Allan. An Introductioin to the Theology of the New Testament, p. 63. London, Great Britain: SLM Press Ltd., 1958.

Ayon kay Allan Richardson, isang teologong Protestante na naniwala rin na si Cristo ay Diyos, walang matutunghayan sa Bagong Tipan na si Cristo ay tinawag na Diyos.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#31 Jun 8, 2014
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
800,000 in St. Peters Square for the event, millions tune in worldwide!
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Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

Only 800,000??? The Iglesia ni Cristo biblical mission in Davao a few days ago had more than 2 million in attendance!!! The Roman Catholic Church really looks funny if compared to the unity of the Iglesia ni Cristo!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#32 Jun 8, 2014
Ganito rin ang pag-amin ng isang tagapagturong Protestante na si John A.T. Robinson sa kaniyang sinulat na Honest To God:

“Sinabi ng Bagong Tipan na si Jesus ay ang Salita ng Diyos, sinasabi nito na ang Diyos ay na kay Cristo, at sinasabi nito na si si Jesus ay ang Anak ng Diyos; subalit hindi nito sinasabi na si Jesus ay Diyos ...”

“The New Testament says that Jesus was the Word of God, it says that God was in Christ, it says that Jesus is the Son of God; but it does not say that Jesus was God ...”

Reference: Robinson, John A.T. Honest To God, p. 70. London: SCM Press Ltd., 1963.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#33 Jun 12, 2014
Marahil ay nagulat kayo sa inyong natunghayan na ang mga nagtataguyod ng aral na si Cristo ay Diyos, mula sa hanay ng mga paring Katoliko hanggang sa mga tagapagturong Protestante, ay umamin na hindi matutunghayan sa Bagong Tipan na si Cristo ay tinawag na Diyos. Lalo kayong mamamangha kapag mapatunayan ninyo na hindi itinuro ng mga apostol na Diyos si Cristo. Ganito ang patotoo ng isang iskolar ng Biblia:

“Hindi tiyakang ipinahayag ni Apostol Pablo na si Jesus ay Diyos bagaman sinabi niya sa mga naakay niya sa Colosas na si Jesus ay ang 'larawan'('[image' o 'ikon') ng di-nakikitang Diyos …“

“Paul never specifically states that Jesus was God, though he told the converts in Colossae that Jesus was the 'image' or 'ikon' of the invisible God ...”

Reference: Wilson, A.N. Jesus: A Life, p. 20. New York: W.W. Norton & Company, In., 1992.
Sa pag-aaral ni A.N. Wilson sa buhay ng ating Panginoong Jesucristo, wala siyang nakita na tiyakang pahayag ni Apostol Pablo na si Cristo ay Diyos.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#34 Jun 18, 2014
Maging ang teologong Protestante na si Georg Kummel ay nagpatotoo na “iniwasan” ni Apostol Pablo na tawaging “Diyos” si Cristo. Ganito ang kaniyang pahayag:

“Lalong malinaw mula sa katotohanang iniwasan ni Pablo na tawaging 'Diyos' si Cristo, na wala siyang isipang pagpantayin sila.”

“It is evident, further, from the fact that Paul avoids calling Christ 'God' that he has no idea of equating them.”

Reference: Kummel, Georg W. The Theology of the New Testament, p. 164. Trans. John F. Steely . New York & Nashville: Abingdon Press, 1973.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#35 Jun 23, 2014
Sumang-ayon din si Hans Kung, isang bantog na teologong Katoliko, na si Cristo ay hindi tinawag na Diyos sa mga sulat ni Apostol Pablo:

“… Ngunit sa kabilang dako si Jesus ay madalang na tuwirang tinawag na 'Diyos' at mismomg si Pablo ay hindi Siya kailanman tinawag na gayon ...”

“… But on the other hand Jesus is scarcely ever directly called 'God' and never by Paul himself ...”

Reference: Hans Kung. On Being A Christian, p. 440. New York: Image Book, 19 66.

Inamin ng mga teologo sa hanay ng mga Katoliko at Protestante na si Cristo ay hindi tinawag na “Diyos” ni Apostol Pablo.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
answer me

Meycauayan, Philippines

#36 Jun 23, 2014
Sige lang sige. Post pa. Baka may makinig. Turo ka ng turo gamit ang daliri mo samin na low iq kami mga divided kami na katoliko dahil di kami nagkakaroon ng mga bloc voting mga anniversary blablabla mali lahat ng katoliko di mo alam may apat kang daliring nakaturo sa sarili mo. Boom Panis.
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#37 Jun 29, 2014
answer me wrote:
Sige lang sige. Post pa. Baka may makinig. Turo ka ng turo gamit ang daliri mo samin na low iq kami mga divided kami na katoliko dahil di kami nagkakaroon ng mga bloc voting mga anniversary blablabla mali lahat ng katoliko di mo alam may apat kang daliring nakaturo sa sarili mo. Boom Panis.
Answer,

May palaging makikinig!!! Hindi maaaring ang hula ng Diyos ukol sa tagumapay ng Iglesia nhi Cristo ay hindi matupad!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#38 Jun 29, 2014
Bakit hindi tinawag na “Diyos” ni Apostol Pablo ang ating Panginoong JesuCristo? Ano ba ang pagkakilala ni Apostol Pablo tungkol sa likas na kalagayan ng ating Panginoong Jesucristo? Ganito ang itinuro ng Apostol Pablo:

“Sapagkat may isang Diyos at may isang Tagapamagitan sa Dios at sa mga tao, ang taong si Cristo Jesus.”(I Tim. 2:5)

Ang paniniwala ni Apostol Pablo ay isa lamang ang tunay na Diyos. Hindi niya maaaring tawaging Diyos si Cristo sapagkat ito ay salungat sa kaniyang paniniwala na ang Ama ang iisang Diyos (I Cor. 8:6). Para kay Pablo si Cristo ay tao at Siya ang iisang Tagapamagitan ng mga tao sa Diyos.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
pazuzu

Yigo, Guam

#39 Jun 29, 2014
Pope John Paul II has done more good for mankind than all the INM cult members combined! His authority can be traced back all the way to Peter. In contrast, Feli(XXX) Manalo anointed himself in the bathroom with a fake bible.
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#40 Jul 2, 2014
pazuzu wrote:
Pope John Paul II has done more good for mankind than all the INM cult members combined! His authority can be traced back all the way to Peter. In contrast, Feli(XXX) Manalo anointed himself in the bathroom with a fake bible.
Patsuptsup,

No wonder Catholics can't even bury their dead in Tacloban City because he really helped through his decaying brains in the grave!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#41 Jul 2, 2014
Ang gayon ding paniniwala ang matutunghayan sa mga pahayag ni Apostol Pedro tungkol sa Panginoong Jesucristo. Ito ang napatunayan ng isang dating madre ng Iglesia Katolika na si Karen Armstrong, na nagsuri rin sa kasaysayan ng buhay ni Cristo. Ganito ang kanyang natuklasan:

“… Hindi ipinahayag ni Pedro na si Jesus ng Nazareth ay Diyos. Siya ay 'tao, na pinatunayan ng Diyos sa inyo sa pamamagitan ng mga himala at tanda na ginawa ng Diyos sa pamamagtan niya nang siya ay nasa gitna ninyo'...”

“… Peter did not claim that Jesus of Nazareth was God. He 'was a man, commended to you by God by the miracles and portents and signs that God worked through him when he was among you'...”

Reference: Armstrong, Karen. A History of God, p. 107. Great Britain: Mandarin Paperbacks, 1994.

Maliwanag na si Cristo ay hindi tinawag na “Diyos”nina Apostol Pedro at Pablo, at ito ay pinatutunayan mismo ng mga nagtataguyod ng aral na si Cristo ay Diyos.

Real Elias Ibarra'
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#42 Jul 10, 2014
Ang Panginoong Jesucristo naman kaya ay may pahayag o pagpapakilala na Siya ay Diyos? Ganito ang patotoo ng Protestanteng manunulat na si John Robertson:

“… Hindi kailanman inangkin ni Jesus na Siya ay Diyos ...”

“… Jesus never claims to be God,…“

Reference: Robertson, John A.T. Honest To God, p. 73. London: SCM PressLtd., 1963

Bakit kaya kahit minsan ay hindi ipinahayag ni Jesus na Siya ay Diyos? Ano ang pagpapakilala ni Cristo sa Kaniyang sarili? Tunghayan natin ang Kaniyang pahayag:

“I am a man who has told you the truth I heard from God. But you are trying to kill me. Abraham did nothing like that.”(Ako ay tao na nagsasabi sa inyo ng katotohanan na aking narinig sa Diyos. Subalit tinatangka ninyo akong patayin. Walang ginawang gayon si Abraham.)(John 8:40, Easy-to-Read Version)

Ang pagpapakilala ni Cristo mismo sa Kaniyang sarili ay Siya'y tao. Hindi Niya kailanman sinabi na Siya ay Diyos, kaya hindi nakapagtataka na hindi Siya tinawag na “Diyos” ng mga apostol.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

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