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United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in Charlot...

There are 9681 comments on the www.topix.net story from Apr 7, 2008, titled United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in Charlot.... In it, www.topix.net reports that:

The body of Bishop S.C. 'Sweet Daddy' Madison -- only the third leader in the 89-year-history of the United House of Prayer for All People -- will lie in state Thursday night at the denomination's palatial N.C. ...

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Shondra Jean

Denton, TX

#141 Aug 22, 2009
Felix da Housecat wrote:
<quoted text>I'm starting to assume that you are nothing more than a lying hot pants!
What memories are beautiful between a young girl and much,much older man?
I don't mind if you call me names. Sweet Daddy taught me to not worry about that.

The memories of his gentle love are so very beautiful to me. They sustain me when days are hard.

Would you rather I would have been taught by a drug using man with 13 kids to 12 different women?
Felix da Housecat

Imperial, MO

#142 Aug 23, 2009
Shondra Jean wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't mind if you call me names. Sweet Daddy taught me to not worry about that.
The memories of his gentle love are so very beautiful to me. They sustain me when days are hard.
Would you rather I would have been taught by a drug using man with 13 kids to 12 different women?
I believe that you are just a young girl that's smelling herself to get attention!
There is no way that you or your family didn't step up to the plate knowing that this was wrong even if you did get paid off to keep silent.
It's NOT cute! And I'm pretty sure that others will agree to that as well.
You should have been thinking about school/college rather than selling yourself out to a very much older married man who calls himself "GOD'S chosen man".....
If you really were a maid, I wonder what was going through your hot a-- brain when you saw him on the alter with his wife......
new england 193

Savannah, GA

#143 Aug 24, 2009
Peace to all my brothers and sisters in Christ. I have a question for Shondra.What did youi mean when you said Daddy Madison showed you what sex was all about.Remeber that this is one of God's prophets you are talking about.I am not trying to criticise or any thing but I just want to know the full meaning in your statement.
SAW Charlotte NC

Chicago, IL

#144 Aug 25, 2009
When you are right, you don't have to fight!
This is a spiritual kingdom, and without a spiritual eye, you will never see it. The scripture acknowledges, "it is hidden from those who are lost". When you really don't know the principles and understanding of an organization, ugly comments is the worst possible way to learn. It might be an intelligent move to either learn first, even if you don't agree, or be silent. Ignorance will not be an excuse when you have to explain to the great "I AM" your uninformed analogy of how you think people should serve God. If you are not a member and do not understand, you should probably stand on the sidelines, you might accidentally learn a thing or two!
Jax

Trenton, NJ

#145 Aug 25, 2009
SAW Charlotte NC wrote:
When you are right, you don't have to fight!
This is a spiritual kingdom, and without a spiritual eye, you will never see it. The scripture acknowledges, "it is hidden from those who are lost". When you really don't know the principles and understanding of an organization, ugly comments is the worst possible way to learn. It might be an intelligent move to either learn first, even if you don't agree, or be silent. Ignorance will not be an excuse when you have to explain to the great "I AM" your uninformed analogy of how you think people should serve God. If you are not a member and do not understand, you should probably stand on the sidelines, you might accidentally learn a thing or two!
And what if you were a member and got out due to learning about how crooked and dirty the organization is?
SAW Charlotte NC

Chicago, IL

#146 Aug 25, 2009
This is this ultimate low. You people never cease to amaze me. Most will never understand the mysteries of God because you possess a carnal spirit. Now here you come, accusing our leader of having some sexual escapade with you as a 16 year old minor. Firstly, Daddy Madison, a Holy man, had a wife all of his adult years who traveled with him as a constant companion. Secondly, he was constantly surrounded with other staff other than maids, as well. More than likely, you are not even a 16 year old posting this. Just like the enemy you represent(snake), remember you will be judged by your own lies.
To have an opposing opinion about our belief is one thing, but to blatantly lie on an individual is in a totally different arena. I hope your fire retardant suit is all ready and polished up, because you're gonna need it! Rev 21:8
Shondra Jean

Fort Worth, TX

#147 Aug 26, 2009
He wasn't always surrounded by other staff.

I am not bashing Daddy Madison. I love him and am very grateful to him. I don't know why it makes you so angry. He did nothing wrong.
Nichole B

Clayton, NC

#148 Aug 29, 2009
Hi. I am a member of the united house of prayer. I must admit I have not been there in almost 4 years. I know some people may wonder what we as members belive in or what does the church itself believe. Here it is: We believe in the almighty God maker of heaven and earth. We belive in Jesus Christ his only begotten son. That is part of the House of Prayer creed. We as memebers are not held against our will or brainwashed. The house of prayer is a church that believes in its community and tries to help the community in need. I grew up in this church and I loved it. I have alot of memories that shaped me to be the woman that I am today. My grandmother, and sibilings still attends faithfully. Just because one person things that the bishop is about Jesus or God himself is not correct. This is a church that was built in a time before segeration movement began, Bishop Grace believed that all people had a right to worship. Race did not matter. Also do not forget the many programs that the church gives it memebers.
ROARING LION

Hephzibah, GA

#149 Aug 30, 2009
hashofet wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh I've been many times I'm afraid to admit. So I know what I'm talking about. I'll say it again, You're nothing more than a man worshiping cult.
All your bishops including Bailey are lying dogs.
Please do not name call bishop bailey, he was my pastor and is now my bishop, U do not know him, I do. Once again you may voice your opinions but there is no need for name calling, bishop bailey is a good man and he has done nothing to you..
House of Prayer Member

Philadelphia, PA

#150 Aug 31, 2009
OKAY,

I wasn't going to bother to respond until I read something that just got under my skin.

The people from the HOP, you keep saying that we who question your faith don't understand because we have never been there or experienced your faith. I was a member for over 18years I was raised in the HOP, and still attend the funerals of so many that I used to know. So, I know your faith probably better than you do. I had a meeting with you Bishop Madison and asked some of the same questions I have asked here on this site, trust when I say he never answered, he quoted the HOP's favorite scripture Isaiah 56:7.

Bailey used to be my pastor and was one of the nastiest ministers I have ever known. In 2007 during convocation in Phila. he told the senior citizens that if they got Baptized they would loose their seats and they could not reserve seats. Mind you I understand "no reserved seats" but not even for seniors?

Bailey recently gave some young men an ultimatum that if they played on an outside band that had no connection with the HOP they could not play on the HOP's band (even though this was some of these men livelihood.) Some choose to remain on the HOP band and resigned from the outside band. Those who continued with their career were harassed by ministers including Bailey. Bailey went so far as to verbally attack one of the young men who choose to leave the HOP band, but not the church during this years convocation and you say how good of a man your bishop is?

If GOD gives me a gift you bet your life I am going to use it, why else would GOD allow me to have it.

As far as the poster who state the “HOP helps the community” what fantasy world do you live in. You should read the Washington post where Apostle Whitner of "Gods White House, the house of prayers head quarter church" made a statement " no we do not have a program to feed the homeless, we feel many people try to get over and how do we know who is homeless or not."

Your right you do not have to waste your breath back and forth with anyone on this site, because you know what you know.

But one last question, do you really believe GOD uses only one man at a time? If so, what about the people outside of the US who have never heard about the HOP will they not make in to heaven because they have never heard of your profit? Those living in the holly land, the chosen people? Guess those who are decedents of those who witness the blessings of Jesus and follow what they to have been taught will not see GOD because they haven’t been to the HOP to praise your “man servant.”
House of Prayer Member

Philadelphia, PA

#151 Aug 31, 2009
Nicole B,

What many programs..........maybe there is something going on in NC that is not going on in other parts of the country?

The scholarship program.......... okay, that was a good idea but created for the wrong reason..........and with a Muilti Billion dollar org. like the HOP why aren't the scholarships offering a full tuition?
Jax

United States

#152 Aug 31, 2009
House of Prayer Member wrote:
OKAY,
I wasn't going to bother to respond until I read something that just got under my skin.
The people from the HOP, you keep saying that we who question your faith don't understand because we have never been there or experienced your faith. I was a member for over 18years I was raised in the HOP, and still attend the funerals of so many that I used to know. So, I know your faith probably better than you do. I had a meeting with you Bishop Madison and asked some of the same questions I have asked here on this site, trust when I say he never answered, he quoted the HOP's favorite scripture Isaiah 56:7.
Bailey used to be my pastor and was one of the nastiest ministers I have ever known. In 2007 during convocation in Phila. he told the senior citizens that if they got Baptized they would loose their seats and they could not reserve seats. Mind you I understand "no reserved seats" but not even for seniors?
Bailey recently gave some young men an ultimatum that if they played on an outside band that had no connection with the HOP they could not play on the HOP's band (even though this was some of these men livelihood.) Some choose to remain on the HOP band and resigned from the outside band. Those who continued with their career were harassed by ministers including Bailey. Bailey went so far as to verbally attack one of the young men who choose to leave the HOP band, but not the church during this years convocation and you say how good of a man your bishop is?
If GOD gives me a gift you bet your life I am going to use it, why else would GOD allow me to have it.
As far as the poster who state the “HOP helps the community” what fantasy world do you live in. You should read the Washington post where Apostle Whitner of "Gods White House, the house of prayers head quarter church" made a statement " no we do not have a program to feed the homeless, we feel many people try to get over and how do we know who is homeless or not."
Your right you do not have to waste your breath back and forth with anyone on this site, because you know what you know.
But one last question, do you really believe GOD uses only one man at a time? If so, what about the people outside of the US who have never heard about the HOP will they not make in to heaven because they have never heard of your profit? Those living in the holly land, the chosen people? Guess those who are decedents of those who witness the blessings of Jesus and follow what they to have been taught will not see GOD because they haven’t been to the HOP to praise your “man servant.”
OMG! I couldn't have written this any better!

The United House of Prayer for all People does not fellowship with other churches because as you mentioned, there are millions of questions that will be asked and simply CANNOT & WILL NOT be answered, because they are a crooked organization and afraid that their cover will be blown!

Another thing is when folks come on this forum and tell people not to judge their faith.....but alot of us that write on these forums were/and still are members of the church but we just stop attending because things just don't seem right!

There is a young girl on this forum who states that Madison was messing with her? Well as crooked as the UHOP is, who are we to say that it's not true? Who do we believe? And I believe that if it is true, that she probably waited to come out after he died because she or her family could have gotten killed!

My question is...what makes these people think this is the ONLY RIGHT RELIGION to worship?
I ALSO BELIEVE IN GOD.....and they barely even mention HIS name because they're so wrapped up in worshipping ONLY their bishop who is MAN and favoring his name in their songs,music,bands,etc.?

And Madison was MAN! Is it possible that this young girl is NOT lying?
Because if she's not, then I think it's time to expose this organization and air the dirty laundry!
Shondra Jean

Denton, TX

#153 Aug 31, 2009
Please do not run Daddy Madison down for what I said. He helped me, not hurt me. I miss him so much and it hurts me to hear you use what I shared as a loving tribute against him to hurt him.
Jax

Mount Wolf, PA

#154 Aug 31, 2009
Shondra Jean wrote:
Please do not run Daddy Madison down for what I said. He helped me, not hurt me. I miss him so much and it hurts me to hear you use what I shared as a loving tribute against him to hurt him.
If he did what you say he did to you, and people are speaking against it, why are you covering for him?
And how is that running him down?
I don't understand you....when you say that you miss him, do you mean you miss those horrible things that he did to you (if it's true), or do you miss him because he's no longer here?

I don't know what to believe, but you seem to be just as crooked as your faith as far as I'm concerned!
Shondra Jean

Fort Worth, TX

#155 Aug 31, 2009
He didn't do anything horrible to me. I miss him because he is no longer here but part of the reason I miss him is because he took the time to teach me stuff in a gentle way. And then he showed me how too. I miss him.

Please stop bashing him.
Jax

New York, NY

#156 Aug 31, 2009
Shondra Jean wrote:
He didn't do anything horrible to me. I miss him because he is no longer here but part of the reason I miss him is because he took the time to teach me stuff in a gentle way. And then he showed me how too. I miss him.
Please stop bashing him.
You're just as sick as your organization!
Shondra Jean

Fort Worth, TX

#157 Sep 10, 2009
Jax wrote:
<quoted text>You're just as sick as your organization!
I am not sick. I was fully an adult at age 15. And a woman soon after thanks to my Sweet Daddy.
Felix da Housecat

Lanesville, IN

#158 Sep 15, 2009
Shondra Jean wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not sick. I was fully an adult at age 15. And a woman soon after thanks to my Sweet Daddy.
Yes....You are sick and crooked just like the organization that you belong to. You are no more than a little hot azz that's looking for attention. While it may be true,did you NOT respect the fact that he was married?
Shondra Jean

Denton, TX

#159 Sep 15, 2009
What does him being married have to do with it? He was doing the Lord's work. If the Lord told him to help me like that, who am I to argue?
NWENGLAND193

Savannah, GA

#160 Sep 19, 2009
Peace & Grace to you all. Question How is that the work of the Lord when you say that Daddy Madison showed you sex. That was not the work of God. You could learn about sex on your own. God's law is against that any way you should really consider what you say because remeber this is God's former prophet you are talking about

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