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United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in Charlot...

There are 10165 comments on the www.topix.net story from Apr 7, 2008, titled United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in Charlot.... In it, www.topix.net reports that:

The body of Bishop S.C. 'Sweet Daddy' Madison -- only the third leader in the 89-year-history of the United House of Prayer for All People -- will lie in state Thursday night at the denomination's palatial N.C. ...

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MSD

Charlotte, NC

#6853 Oct 4, 2013
Eyes on Christ wrote:
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Not good...please excuse this posting; was venting out again. I was a little troubled by a sad conversation of disgust and tears with a family member. People put their sweat and hearts in this organization and get burned. When I hear about certain situations, I get caught up in the dissapointment right along with them. But I have to learn how to apply and use my new biblical knowledge to lift them up; but my moments do kick in.
We understand my friend, we are only human. The thing about these disappoints is what we do after! Do we pick ourselves up and seek truth or do we stay and wallow in it. I hope your family member will seek refuge in the Lord!

God Bless!
Cultastic

Charlotte, NC

#6854 Oct 4, 2013
Eyes on Christ wrote:
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Not good...please excuse this posting; was venting out again. I was a little troubled by a sad conversation of disgust and tears with a family member. People put their sweat and hearts in this organization and get burned. When I hear about certain situations, I get caught up in the dissapointment right along with them. But I have to learn how to apply and use my new biblical knowledge to lift them up; but my moments do kick in.
I encourage the venting. One of the things that we don't do in the black community is talk about mental health issues. Therefore we suffer in silence. One of the things I try to encourage is confrontation when it comes to the issues of the UHOP. The main things that hinder the progress of our beautiful sisters and brothers is fear and ignorance. How can we correct the problems if we don't put them in the open. I've stated several times over. Brother Bailey is only as strong as the fear he instills in the members.

I'm not the smartest man but I'm willing to bet (pun intended LOL) that Brother Bishop is aware that people are standing up to him. He's getting much more kick back than his predecessors. Biblical knowledge is wonderful but if the application is twisted it's useless. You are not alone in your frustration when you see your sincere loved ones being abused by a man's greed and oppressive ideologies.

No one has really paid attention to the fact that brother Bishop rarely uses scripture in his "sermons". My theory is simple. he realizes a few things. It doesn't matter if he uses the bible or not you're going to believe whatever he says my sisters and brothers. He also likely realizes that if he let's you in on too much that's in the scripture he's going to contradict his teachings as well as the teachings of the men that came before him.

My solution is simple as well. ASK QUESTIONS... Questions bring about answers, and answers prevent problems. If no one in the UHOP can adequately answer your questions maybe GOD has given you the answer in your spirit and you're just not listening.
Gee-Tee

Brooklyn, NY

#6855 Oct 4, 2013
MSD wrote:
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Looks like he's running out of sermon's now and he's really reaching.......... Not to be funny but what about his weight?? Over eating is a sin, making food your god and over indulging in it is a sin.
Puffy weight problem is because he has not trained himself on how to eat right. His favorite meal is “Fried Boloney Sandwiches”, picture that. A Man raking in Billions of Dollars a year can’t get away from his baloney. So when I say, Puffy is full of baloney I really mean it. The first thing a starving person says,“I can’t wait to eat a steak. Not Puffy boloney is his first name……
heart broken

Concord, NC

#6856 Oct 4, 2013
One of my biggest concerns is the process in which the uhop members recieve the holy ghost. Where did chanting the word Daddy come from? Who came up with the idea of recieving the holyghost by getting on your knees and chanting Daddy daddy daddy? Im pretty pissed off that there is not enough Jesus in the uhop. Here it is I've been in the uhop all my life just to find out that I really dont have a personal relationship with Christ. I cant even talk to my family about it bc of the amount of rage I let out in conversation. the more I think about it, the more it hardens my heart. I am truely heart broken and highly disappointed.
MSD

Charlotte, NC

#6857 Oct 4, 2013
Cultastic wrote:
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I encourage the venting. One of the things that we don't do in the black community is talk about mental health issues. Therefore we suffer in silence. One of the things I try to encourage is confrontation when it comes to the issues of the UHOP. The main things that hinder the progress of our beautiful sisters and brothers is fear and ignorance. How can we correct the problems if we don't put them in the open. I've stated several times over. Brother Bailey is only as strong as the fear he instills in the members.
I'm not the smartest man but I'm willing to bet (pun intended LOL) that Brother Bishop is aware that people are standing up to him. He's getting much more kick back than his predecessors. Biblical knowledge is wonderful but if the application is twisted it's useless. You are not alone in your frustration when you see your sincere loved ones being abused by a man's greed and oppressive ideologies.
No one has really paid attention to the fact that brother Bishop rarely uses scripture in his "sermons". My theory is simple. he realizes a few things. It doesn't matter if he uses the bible or not you're going to believe whatever he says my sisters and brothers. He also likely realizes that if he let's you in on too much that's in the scripture he's going to contradict his teachings as well as the teachings of the men that came before him.
My solution is simple as well. ASK QUESTIONS... Questions bring about answers, and answers prevent problems. If no one in the UHOP can adequately answer your questions maybe GOD has given you the answer in your spirit and you're just not listening.
And the people's bishop just preached y'all!!!!!!!!!! This statement deserves a standing ovation!!!!!!!!
MSD

Charlotte, NC

#6858 Oct 4, 2013
heart broken wrote:
One of my biggest concerns is the process in which the uhop members recieve the holy ghost. Where did chanting the word Daddy come from? Who came up with the idea of recieving the holyghost by getting on your knees and chanting Daddy daddy daddy? Im pretty pissed off that there is not enough Jesus in the uhop. Here it is I've been in the uhop all my life just to find out that I really dont have a personal relationship with Christ. I cant even talk to my family about it bc of the amount of rage I let out in conversation. the more I think about it, the more it hardens my heart. I am truely heart broken and highly disappointed.
@Heart broken, I feel your pain my friend please let me share with you a video that will help you with the truth. I pray that you will watch with an open mind, a open heart, and most of all an open bible. I will be praying for you! Let me know what you think about the video. See the attached link

http://youtu.be/DmiH89xWZ0Q

God Bless
Eyes on Christ

Columbia, SC

#6859 Oct 4, 2013
Cultastic wrote:
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I encourage the venting. One of the things that we don't do in the black community is talk about mental health issues. Therefore we suffer in silence. One of the things I try to encourage is confrontation when it comes to the issues of the UHOP. The main things that hinder the progress of our beautiful sisters and brothers is fear and ignorance. How can we correct the problems if we don't put them in the open. I've stated several times over. Brother Bailey is only as strong as the fear he instills in the members.
I'm not the smartest man but I'm willing to bet (pun intended LOL) that Brother Bishop is aware that people are standing up to him. He's getting much more kick back than his predecessors. Biblical knowledge is wonderful but if the application is twisted it's useless. You are not alone in your frustration when you see your sincere loved ones being abused by a man's greed and oppressive ideologies.
No one has really paid attention to the fact that brother Bishop rarely uses scripture in his "sermons". My theory is simple. he realizes a few things. It doesn't matter if he uses the bible or not you're going to believe whatever he says my sisters and brothers. He also likely realizes that if he let's you in on too much that's in the scripture he's going to contradict his teachings as well as the teachings of the men that came before him.
My solution is simple as well. ASK QUESTIONS... Questions bring about answers, and answers prevent problems. If no one in the UHOP can adequately answer your questions maybe GOD has given you the answer in your spirit and you're just not listening.
Now, there's some sweet advice for you. I especially like this part... "My solution is simple as well. ASK QUESTIONS... Questions bring about answers, and answers prevent problems. If no one in the UHOP can adequately answer your questions maybe GOD has given you the answer in your spirit and you're just not listening". Thank you, Cultastic!
Cultastic

Charlotte, NC

#6860 Oct 4, 2013
MSD wrote:
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And the people's bishop just preached y'all!!!!!!!!!! This statement deserves a standing ovation!!!!!!!!
LOL cut it out Sister @MSD.....
Gee-Tee

Brooklyn, NY

#6861 Oct 4, 2013
heart broken wrote:
One of my biggest concerns is the process in which the uhop members recieve the holy ghost. Where did chanting the word Daddy come from? Who came up with the idea of recieving the holyghost by getting on your knees and chanting Daddy daddy daddy? Im pretty pissed off that there is not enough Jesus in the uhop. Here it is I've been in the uhop all my life just to find out that I really dont have a personal relationship with Christ. I cant even talk to my family about it bc of the amount of rage I let out in conversation. the more I think about it, the more it hardens my heart. I am truely heart broken and highly disappointed.
Quote: Salvation is by Grace only. Grace has given God a vacation, and since God is on vacation, don't worry about Him. If you sin against God, Grace can save you, but if you sin against Grace, God cannot save you.

These words were embedded in the UHOP members head. They truly believed you had to go through Grace to get to God. They had some members that called Jesus name when seeking for the Holy Ghost. When they didn’t get it, they were told it was because they had to call on Daddy.

When I think about all the misguided teachings that scared a whole generation of people makes me want to holler. This is why it’s so hard for the people to see the falseness of the UHOP teaching.
It’s been ingrained in them for so long.

There was a woman that uses to cut the ends of the Pot Roast before she cooked it. This went on for three generation. When ask why do you cut the ends off they were told, because grandma did it. When they asked grandma why she did it they were told because great-great grandma did it. When they asked her why she did it her reply was,“The Pot wasn’t big enough.”

So you see no one ever questioned why things done in the UHOP continue from one generation to another. They took everything as gospel. The trust in these so call Men of God is still undeliverable. Deep down with-in they really believe they have to go through “Daddy” to get to God.

Take long deep breaths when speaking to these people. They believe we are against their Daddies. Some of them will never see. Continue to believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and thank him for waking you up. Most UHOP members are that “Man in the Boat” waiting for Puffy to save them.
Cultastic

Charlotte, NC

#6862 Oct 4, 2013
Eyes on Christ wrote:
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Now, there's some sweet advice for you. I especially like this part... "My solution is simple as well. ASK QUESTIONS... Questions bring about answers, and answers prevent problems. If no one in the UHOP can adequately answer your questions maybe GOD has given you the answer in your spirit and you're just not listening". Thank you, Cultastic!
Just sharing my thoughts. I love my UHOP sisters and brothers even though they think I only want to make their lives miserable with my rants LOL. In contrast I have nothing but blank stares because they honestly believe that their religious master has their best interest at heart.
U O E N O

Dallas, TX

#6863 Oct 4, 2013
Cultastic wrote:
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I was waiting for someone else to post this truth brother @Hebrewsunite. I hope he takes option #3. Take the money and run for the hills. Ball up that useless Elder's letter/credential and throw it at Brother Bishop. I could care less about the lies he "preached" LOL.
Dude has brilliantly found a way around this ultimatum which was given to him. His loving wife who he has messed around on even to this day has stepped forward and claimed that the ticket was hers and he had nothing to do with it. Supposedly that he only stepped up to claim the prize nationally because she had some serious back taxes. However, common sense will tell you that if you are hitched it will affect you either way. The man is at least taking in $70-80 grand a year alone from a minimum weekly pastor offering of $1000, anniversary offering of at 10k. And don't forget at least a whopping 5 grand during the convocation. Yes I clocked his pocket lol. But to day that you are 69 and never own a home is absurd to say the least. I'm 26 and own a home. but I'm happy for anyone who is afforded the opportunity to pick up and start a new. I just hope they use wisdom. Enjoy your wife and family and chillax some where
Egyptology

Concord, CA

#6864 Oct 4, 2013
@gee-tee......WONDERFUL....... .my parents wont have an open discussion with me about the questions i have, i get it you shouldn't question the man of god but i have a novel of question and i would have thought since my parents been in the game for a long time we could have at least had a general convesation without all the yelling and stuff. bottom line is when people can't answer or get mad defensive when you question their intelligence then there is something wrong.
MSD

Charlotte, NC

#6865 Oct 4, 2013
Egyptology wrote:
@gee-tee......WONDERFUL....... .my parents wont have an open discussion with me about the questions i have, i get it you shouldn't question the man of god but i have a novel of question and i would have thought since my parents been in the game for a long time we could have at least had a general convesation without all the yelling and stuff. bottom line is when people can't answer or get mad defensive when you question their intelligence then there is something wrong.
@Egyptology you can question the man of God especially when what he teaches doesn't line up with what God says in His word. Prov. 14:12 says...English Standard Version
There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death.
Egyptology

United States

#6866 Oct 4, 2013
@msd i totally agree
Gee-Tee

Brooklyn, NY

#6867 Oct 4, 2013
Are we asking for to much when we ask the UHOP Bishops to put their Members first? Everyone that takes this seat gets greedier then the next. None of us truly like being enslaved. Yet when ever someone is in control, their first thought is about themselves, never the people they are leading. If the Rich and Powerful would share with the Poor; Poor would be just a word and not a reality.

Give your people the wills to think for them selves. You can still have a group of people that will follow you. But to continue to lead your people into a false sense of hope is truly not Gods plan. I look down on these leaders because they say, God sent them. What kind of God are they serving that thinks his Messengers are the only ones that should enjoy Heaven here on earth, While the rest of us has to wait to die.

God did not send these Men. Once I gave my soul to God, The God I serve gave me a good Life. He also gave me a good Heart where I want to see all my sisters and brothers have the same things I have. Sharing is the works of God. Greediness is the works of the Devil.

The reason most UHOP members don’t own houses is because their leaders keep building Apartments. If they built Homes, their people would want more. It’s like giving a Dog a bone, once that Dog get the taste of meat he buries his bones.

Give your members a reason for living.
KINGDOM CHILD

College Park, MD

#6868 Oct 4, 2013
Greetings to Everyone,

As this will be the last time I read your column before going home for the weekend, I would like to share the following scriptures. I would encourage everyone to purchase a bible if you do not own one.

It is very important that you know the Gospel of Jesus Christ and study the Holy Bible for yourself. It is not enough to simply read a few versus and close your books until the next study time.

As a child my parents would read to me, but as an adult everyone should be capable of reading for themselves. I do not wish to offend anyone, but would just like to remind you that there is really no excuse because there are tapes, cds, and even options of going to youtube and having the scriptures play while you work around the house or during sparetime.

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Please open your bibles and study, ask God's guidance through the Holy Ghost as you began on the most exciting journey learning about God!

John 3:16-17 (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Acts4:10-12 (KJV)
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Philippians 2:8-11
King James Version (KJV)

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

And for those who have come to find the way, let us pray for those who are not yet sound in the words of GOD.
Gee-Tee

Brooklyn, NY

#6869 Oct 4, 2013
There’s a book called “Happy to be Nappy” written by Chris Raschka. He wrote this book to give Black children a sense of pride. For far too long Black Folks have been using all kinds of creams to lighten their skins and all kinds of harmful chemicals to straighten their hair. Never seeing the beauty God made within us. I heard a Medical Examiner say he could always tell the people that had perms by the blackness of their scalps.

Now you have a Black Leader that thinks he should teach you the way God made you is wrong. Come on people, God made us in his imagine. Jesus had hair like a lamb. Should you be listening to this nonsense spewed out by Puffy?

Since when did how you wear your hair became apart in serving God. These are Common Sense questions you should see for yourself.
know better now

Norcross, GA

#6870 Oct 4, 2013
heart broken wrote:
One of my biggest concerns is the process in which the uhop members recieve the holy ghost. Where did chanting the word Daddy come from? Who came up with the idea of recieving the holyghost by getting on your knees and chanting Daddy daddy daddy? Im pretty pissed off that there is not enough Jesus in the uhop. Here it is I've been in the uhop all my life just to find out that I really dont have a personal relationship with Christ. I cant even talk to my family about it bc of the amount of rage I let out in conversation. the more I think about it, the more it hardens my heart. I am truely heart broken and highly disappointed.
I was just talking about this very thing this afternoon.Can someone help me with my question regarding the way the uhop teaches it's members to be saved.I would like to know is that also a form of being waveform is it wrong altogether. I'm Still somewhat confused because so many have claim receiving the holy ghost that way.Was it real IS it real. I know alot of Baptist believe that you just have to believe, except and confess with thou mouth you are saved and the holy ghost is already within you it just has to be manifested. Is the way the uhop seek a joke? I watched the video that was posted as well and according to it there's only one way tl be saved and the uhop way is not it. Can someone help?????
know better now

Norcross, GA

#6871 Oct 4, 2013
know better now wrote:
<quoted text>I was just talking about this very thing this afternoon.Can someone help me with my question regarding the way the uhop teaches it's members to be saved.I would like to know is that also a form of being waveform is it wrong altogether. I'm Still somewhat confused because so many have claim receiving the holy ghost that way.Was it real IS it real. I know alot of Baptist believe that you just have to believe, except and confess with thou mouth you are saved and the holy ghost is already within you it just has to be manifested. Is the way the uhop seek a joke? I watched the video that was posted as well and according to it there's only one way tl be saved and the uhop way is not it. Can someone help?????
Sorry typos everywhere. I was asking is the way the hop teaches it's members to be saved another form or is it wrong altogether ?
Gee-Tee

Brooklyn, NY

#6872 Oct 4, 2013
know better now wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry typos everywhere. I was asking is the way the hop teaches it's members to be saved another form or is it wrong altogether ?
The UHOP is not teaching you how to be saved. They told you to get on your knees, wallow in some saw dust calling on Daddy. You get up confess to having the Holy Ghost and continue doing all unholy things. Look how easy it is for the people to shout. As soon as the bands stop they are back to normal.

How many weeks of Convocation do they have. UHOP members get Baptist every stop they make, why. Once you get Baptist and receive the Gospel of Jesus Christ in your heart, why are you doing this again. I’m not saying all of them act this way, But so many confess to have the Holy Ghost and continue to live in sin. If the UHOP was teaching the true meaning of being saved, they would insist you sin no more.

How can you claim to be saved when you don’t even know Gods words? They repeat Puffy words. God will forgive all sins, but don’t you think you should try not to commit the same sins over and over again, when do you learn.

You will be confused because you are at a point in your life where you don’t know who to believe. Continue to pray for understanding, God will not fail you. Start by Reading the Bible a little more. What you don’t understand discuss it with us. You have been deprived of Gods words much too long. Everything you are confused about is because a Mortal Man gave you his meaning. Now its time for you to receive the true meaning of how to serve God, not Man through the Bible. I’m here for you and so many others are too.

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