United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in Charlot...

[Cultastic]

Eyes on Christ wrote:

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Furthermore, although this blog has been a great source for me it is not enough for change! Change is a process. Ive seen many including myself discuss thoughts and findings but no one has started the actual procedure to change what weve learned is wrong. I think the HOP would be an honorable place of worship for people if it had the right leadership, teachings, and understanding of human needs. But Bishop Bailey said that those talking and trying to persuade are nothing but a"Bubble over the ocean" nobody is hearing them. A comment I also read in this blog about a week prior. Coincidence? Anyways, like you said.....all the while he continues to collect his riches. There are even Apostles ....men with titles...who agree with us concerned but wont even begin the process. Like I stated, interesting post.

Let me first say that my father gave over seventy dedicated years of his life (money, time, children, etc.) to the UHOP before leaving his cult slave mind behind and reclaiming his spiritual and mental freedom. I totally understand that it may be pointless for some but do understand that these types of discussions have a huge impact. There are also many reading this board who are caught in sects very similar to the UHOP. Bailey's cliche about the bubble or whatever is just propaganda to silence the growing masses and stop a movement. He knows that his membership is slipping away from his deception and seeking the TRUTH. If those who speak the TRUTH are like a bubble in the ocean silent making no impact then I liken him and his chronies to the EMPTY wagon that makes the most noise.

I've offered several solutions to help members of the UHOP through this board. The first being to DEMAND a change. How can a general lead without an army? Knowledge is power and the more the members have the more power they will have. I urge members to read your UHOP constitution Bishop can be removed for incompetency (lack of physical or intellectual ability or qualifications; lacking the power to perform).

I do not accept the "nothing can be done" mentality. We've done that for far too long. The discussions on this board transcend babbling about a small church organization. President Obama practically won his first election through efficient use of social media, the Internet, and technology. I can only imagine if trendsetters like Gee-Tee had access to the Internet in this capacity when she was in her thirties. The main reasons the UHOP has operated for 90+ years are ignorance and silence. Those who don't know any better blindly obey and follow. In contrast those who do know better remain silent refusing to at least attempt to make a change. It's only been roughly five years since this board has been going. That's nothing in comparison to 90 years of generational ignorance that has been perpetuated in the UHOP. Even if I'm alone I will not keep silent and watch another 90 years of oppression of my people. Change is imminent it just takes time.

Bishop hears the "bubbles" on the ocean because he's watching, reading, listening. Do know that you are being heard loud and clear.

[Cultastic]

Partner in Christ wrote:

Preach Bishop Cultastic!
We need to put out an APB on A Witness for Belly...where did he/she go? LOL! COWARD!

I really would like for this sister/brother to come back and/or reach out to me again.

[Daddys Gurl]

Dad just had a birthday and he is still on the throne! Timeiswindingup doesnt speak for real UHOP believers because we know that Daddy is the only way the truth and the light. St. Lady Dee is a godly woman and he has favored her for her many years of service to the Kingdom. DB is a trend sitter by continuing to let her sit on the mountion. Dont buy these lies ex-members are selling. God still has his name in the UHOP!!!!

[Eyes on Christ]

Daddys Gurl wrote:

Dad just had a birthday and he is still on the throne! Timeiswindingup doesnt speak for real UHOP believers because we know that Daddy is the only way the truth and the light. St. Lady Dee is a godly woman and he has favored her for her many years of service to the Kingdom. DB is a trend sitter by continuing to let her sit on the mountion. Dont buy these lies ex-members are selling. God still has his name in the
UHOP!!!!

Sweet little Daddys Gurl....do you post to "piss". There are toilets for that! Are you trying to start mess? You know...if I didnt know better, I"ll take a wild guess and say you are an EX yourself lookng to stir the pot some. You've read many postings about serious concerns regarding Bishop Bailey, the UHOP, and Sis. Deloris Madison, yet you find away to "throw up out yo mouth". Until your able to find something to defend your platform....How bout just take a walk to the back of the bus, sit down and hide......let grown folks drive this bus!

[I am Free]

Daddys Gurl wrote:
Dad just had a birthday and he is still on the throne! Timeiswindingup doesnt speak for real UHOP believers because we know that Daddy is the only way the truth and the light. St. Lady Dee is a godly woman and he has favored her for her many years of service to the Kingdom. DB is a trend sitter by continuing to let her sit on the mountion. Dont buy these lies ex-members are selling. God still has his name in the
UHOP!!!!

@daddys gurl I started not to respond to your filth, however this may be an opportunity for me to speak to a non brainwashed member. Please read John 14:6 Jesus Said, I am the way, the truth and the life, No man cometh unto the Father, but by me". Daddy's Gurl, You are blaspheming for which there is no forgiveness. But don't get it twisted Daddys Gurl is only speaking the actual rhetoric that has been taught and still being taught in the HOP. Please members hear what thus saith the Lord.

[I am Free]

ChristIsTheAnswer wrote:

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You are not alone!

Thank you!

[just a Johnson]

I love you daddy Bailey

[Cultastic]

Daddys Gurl wrote:

DB is a trend sitter by continuing to let her sit on the mountion. Dont buy these lies ex-members are selling. God still has his name in the UHOP!!!!

DB certainly is a "trend sitter" and he keeps the throne on the "mountion" warm. I'm praying that your typos have to do with the auto-correct on your phone. If not your folly is absolutely offensive. You have no choice with your holy purchases. Thus it is safe to conclude you don't know if your money is buying a lying GOD or a truthful GOD that "has his name in the UHOP". On the contrary ex-members are not "selling" lies we're giving away the truth. Unlike the teachers (sellers) of your UHOP doctrines we ex-members encourage you to scrutinize and question everything we say with unadulterated tenacity. In conclusion after you and your parents pay your birthday love gift to DB ask him how many blessings you get for each dollar you "cheerfully" give (insert sarcasm). AGAPE

[Cultastic]

just a Johnson wrote:

I love you daddy Bailey

I love your love gift and daddy's club money too, I mean I love you too @just a Johnson *in my best Daddy Bailey bishop's voice.

Another young deceived mind SMH

[Partner in Christ]

What do ya say....Father Benedict has resigned bless his heart.

[prince rod]

God is real and the truth rather if you understand or believe the creed or the ways of the house of prayer god eyes is on that place some where 90+ years don't you think god would of been did something to the uhop I dont judged nobody background creed or religion I'm not god the hop is a peaceful place for worship daddy Bailey is nothing but a messager of god in our faith god works in him the flesh I pray for world peace in may black folks would stop tearing each other down by things they heard or things they thought they saw the world would be a better place if people would mind they business in worry about there soul god work threw people stop hating on someone else blessings in worry about catching yours the love I have for my maker in heaven is unconditional and everlasting say what you want about prince rod cause I'm a child of a king who lives in heaven who eyes isn't just on the hop but everywhere

[Eyes on Christ]

@Cultastic,

Good points to consider; but I know tactics should be used. I agree that this board does call for good, open, and blunt conversation which has helped me especially after a long period of silence as my mind was full of doubts of how business and practices were being conducted in the UHOP. This board became that source that I desperately needed. I couldnt even ask questions during Sunday School.

Through careful thoughts, i have started applying other tactics to avoid being the mental disturbance especially for my elders. In doing so, some already admitted that maybe Bailey isnt the chosen man. I also heard comments made that if he's leading the wrong way, then God will hold him responsible; may not be much, but this is coming from the House of prayer or no prayer members. I agree, its going to take time. Members are dropping away and hardly any are joining. Demographics slowly come by members having babies. Members have to keep reproducing to withhold membership. This is certain and Bailey is not concern about anything else. He rarely ask about new joiners because they dont come forward. Maybe theres just not any in the congregation to begin with. Sad! But what do you expect when you dont have a plan to reach out to nonmembers. House of Prayer is about House of Prayer. Thank God for Jesus because Jesus was for all people. Go figure!

Again, i agree that the board must continue as we continue to find ways to open peoples minds and hearts to how Jesus actually designed the path to righteousness. Even Apostle Paul told the people not to treat him as God. Jesus served the people, he greeted the disciples by washing the dust from their feet. I bet many people are not aware, but Jesus and his disciples were set up to serve the people.....to attend their needs.....they conducted themselvss as servants......because of their committed deeds for God. They dont share this in the HOP because of how wrong the Daddy faith would appear.

[Eyes on Christ]

prince rod wrote:

God is real and the truth rather if you understand or believe the creed or the ways of the house of prayer god eyes is on that place some where 90+ years don't you think god would of been did something to the uhop I dont judged nobody background creed or religion I'm not god the hop is a peaceful place for worship daddy Bailey is nothing but a messager of god in our faith god works in him the flesh I pray for world peace in may black folks would stop tearing each other down by things they heard or things they thought they saw the world would be a better place if people would mind they business in worry about there soul god work threw people stop hating on someone else blessings in worry about catching yours the love I have for my maker in heaven is unconditional and everlasting say what you want about prince rod cause I'm a child of a king who lives in heaven who eyes isn't just on the hop but everywhere

Prince Rod,

There's something that took me along time to accept and still I struggle with it as much as I struggle with all of my years believing in untruths.
Considering that 90 years is a long time to both you and I...us humans. Giving credit of a long haul to UHOP, Catholic church (which is been around much longer), credit to the Protestant church and so forth. Long hauls for them and many others. Yet God hasnt stopped it yet.

Consider this.....satan....the lucifer guy...remember that evil langel? This evil one has been around since before all of the aforementioned organizations. As a matter of fact, hes the master mind. God hadnt stopped this evil angel either. This evil angel has even a longer haul of time to brag about. Believe it......he brags and laughs. Would you give satan the same credit?

[prince rod]

No cause the devil know the word just as well as any other christian don't for get Jesus took the devil to the mountain top in try to give Jesus anything he want if he bow to him but Jesus told him how you gone give me something that you don't own I believe that god is in the hop faith is the key to peace I'm not god but I'm made in his image that need understanding a lil more of he's word in the hop is givin me that I done have plenty talks with Islam people and moors who to me are great thinkers by the way I seek knowledge and truth witch is what everybody suppose to be seeking for you live and learn the last name you wear is not of yours it is of your past family slave master god is real by showing you who is preaching his word with fruitish and with love the seed of knowledge witch is to the hop daddy grace was planted in 1960 when he was laid to rest inside the oldest and common mother of all to this day the earth that seed turn into a root when daddy McCullough came in turn into a tree when daddy Madison came in now daddy Bailey pulling up the weed growing up around the tree god is in the hop god eyes is every where god pull a woman out of a man he pull a family from out a woman in he pull civilization out of the family know your truth like I know mine's I'm forever gone be a knowledge seeker in ever gone judge some religion creed or background cause that's not my place or job I can only hate sin cause I was born into it but by free will I can change that

[Hebrewsunite]

prince rod wrote:

No cause the devil know the word just as well as any other christian don't for get Jesus took the devil to the mountain top in try to give Jesus anything he want if he bow to him but Jesus told him how you gone give me something that you don't own I believe that god is in the hop faith is the key to peace I'm not god but I'm made in his image that need understanding a lil more of he's word in the hop is givin me that I done have plenty talks with Islam people and moors who to me are great thinkers by the way I seek knowledge and truth witch is what everybody suppose to be seeking for you live and learn the last name you wear is not of yours it is of your past family slave master god is real by showing you who is preaching his word with fruitish and with love the seed of knowledge witch is to the hop daddy grace was planted in 1960 when he was laid to rest inside the oldest and common mother of all to this day the earth that seed turn into a root when daddy McCullough came in turn into a tree when daddy Madison came in now daddy Bailey pulling up the weed growing up around the tree god is in the hop god eyes is every where god pull a woman out of a man he pull a family from out a woman in he pull civilization out of the family know your truth like I know mine's I'm forever gone be a knowledge seeker in ever gone judge some religion creed or background cause that's not my place or job I can only hate sin cause I was born into it but by free will I can change that

Shaluwm little one (I hope)-
If your understanding the scriptures, is akin to your misquoting the scriptures, then you need better instructors. If your grammar, is akin your knowledge of reality, then you need prudent direction. IMHO this is the place for you. Here you will find wonderful wisdom, incredible insight, communicative grammar, and accurate interpretation of The Scriptures. Loved one “Jesus” DNE,(does not exist){do your research} Yahusha did not take Ha Shatan anywhere;
Mat 4:1 Then was YAHUsha led up of The Ruach into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.-
I sincerely encourage you to dissect my answer and the words used here. If you are attending HOP Sunday school my advice to you, is to stop going there ASAP. You are being ill informed, and misdirected. I implore you to study my words here before you attempt to answer. You are obviously very young, your diatribe, grammatical errors, and errant knowledge of The Scriptures reflect this. Please do understand no one here, myself included, means you any harm nor ill will. We only would like you to examine your instruction and your education and those who have provided you with such. We live in an information age like never before (Dan 12:4) please take qodesh advantage of it.

Shaluwm-

[prince rod]

Shaluwm so you must be Jewish huh

[Hebrewsunite]

prince rod wrote:

Shaluwm so you must be Jewish huh

Shaluwm dear one,

Is it apparent in your response you are not available for education but rather debate. Please educate me so I will not obfuscate the intent in your response. I politely asked you twice to study my words and the terminology used in my note to you. I will ask again in hopes you are interested in education.…. And no I am not a Jew, neither was Jesus nor is Yahusha, Ab’raham, Yits’chaq, or Ya`aqob nor any of their descendants……. But that has very little to do with the errant teachings and practices of the HOP which must stop, ASAP.

Shaluwm Aleichem-

[prince rod]

Well brother you give me a question in I will give you a answer brother

[Hebrewsunite]

Shaluwm

Many thanks for the invitation for relevant dialogue and Q&A-

Why do you attend an organization which frowns on speculation and inspection of its theological doctrine, and the leader and leadership which promotes this doctrine?

[Hebrewsunite]

Shaluwm

Do remember loved one my original request was for you to dissect the terminology used in our initial contact. My softball first pitch should be fairly simply to address. Please be so inclined as to grant acquiesce to the platform of our opening dialogue.

Shaluwm