United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in Charlot...

There are 20 comments on the www.topix.net story from Apr 7, 2008, titled United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's body in Charlot.... In it, www.topix.net reports that:

The body of Bishop S.C. 'Sweet Daddy' Madison -- only the third leader in the 89-year-history of the United House of Prayer for All People -- will lie in state Thursday night at the denomination's palatial N.C. ...

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doodibutt

Huntersville, NC

#242 Mar 12, 2010
God created Christians.Satan created denominations to dived man/Christians.It is simply a tool to make us weaker.UHOP is simply a pentacostal based denomination,using Old Testament passages,such as tithing to make a profit,through mass appeal.It's like that old story about the king who wanted the finest material,but everyone was afraid to tell him that he was in fact,naked.
These pentacostals,and their knockoffs literally scare people into thinking the preacher,or apostle or whatever they call his ass,that he has some special ability,or speaks to God.You ever notice how the trash cans of money get filled when the masses start acting out?IE:passing out,speaking gibberish,twitching,faith healing.It's all parlor tricks and hypnosis.Not God,but simply fools being parted from their money!
SweetJasper

Richmond Hill, NY

#243 Mar 13, 2010
doodibutt wrote:
God created Christians.Satan created denominations to dived man/Christians.It is simply a tool to make us weaker.UHOP is simply a pentacostal based denomination,using Old Testament passages,such as tithing to make a profit,through mass appeal.It's like that old story about the king who wanted the finest material,but everyone was afraid to tell him that he was in fact,naked.
These pentacostals,and their knockoffs literally scare people into thinking the preacher,or apostle or whatever they call his ass,that he has some special ability,or speaks to God.You ever notice how the trash cans of money get filled when the masses start acting out?IE:passing out,speaking gibberish,twitching,faith healing.It's all parlor tricks and hypnosis.Not God,but simply fools being parted from their money!
WELL PUT !!!!:)
Just Love

Alexandria, VA

#244 Apr 5, 2010
I have been a member of this organization since birth and I am at a point that I want to leave. It's very hard to explain how I feel as being a dedicted member because I can see how non-members feel and members feel. Bishop Madison was a charismatic and humble man who preached the bible and was not of himself. Bishop Bailey is very aggressive and often says some things that makes me questions myself. Some of the rules that we have I just don't understand either.

I began to question myself because (1)It's very hard for me to explain my religion/faith. I know the scripture but honestly I laugh at it because it just doesn't make sense (2) It downright disturbs me that we don't give reference to God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as much as we should only on Easter's if you're luckly but it's usually flipped around to our Bishop.(3) The stress of leaving dealing with your family your friends you've known all of your life will probably stop talking to you all together depending on how closed minded they are.

You have several types of members. Those who are brainwashed and cultic like. Those who believe in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit but kind of ingore the crazies, those who are a mix between, and those who are in the frist group that are coming into the second group and are ready to leave.

None of this probably makes sense....lol....Lord knows if someone finds out who I am i'd be in some serious trouble.

Now that i'm older and I am a strong thinker I desire a closer relationship with the almight God and his son Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. I want to give back and not by how much money I put into a program for reason I can't comprehend or
TrryOh

Monroe, NC

#245 Apr 6, 2010
It makes sense,you got away long enough for the hypnoses to wear off.Now,seek a qualified therapist and find a church that realizes God wants your spirit,not your money.Donations are for helping to run the Church,not for a preacher that isn't held accountable.
Good luck,and the Bible makes sense,you have been abused mentally,and likely forced into one of those pentacostal knockoffs when you didn't have a choice.Good luck and God Bless.
TrryOh

Monroe, NC

#246 Apr 6, 2010
Just Love wrote:
I have been a member of this organization since birth and I am at a point that I want to leave. It's very hard to explain how I feel as being a dedicted member because I can see how non-members feel and members feel. Bishop Madison was a charismatic and humble man who preached the bible and was not of himself. Bishop Bailey is very aggressive and often says some things that makes me questions myself. Some of the rules that we have I just don't understand either.
I began to question myself because (1)It's very hard for me to explain my religion/faith. I know the scripture but honestly I laugh at it because it just doesn't make sense (2) It downright disturbs me that we don't give reference to God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit as much as we should only on Easter's if you're luckly but it's usually flipped around to our Bishop.(3) The stress of leaving dealing with your family your friends you've known all of your life will probably stop talking to you all together depending on how closed minded they are.
You have several types of members. Those who are brainwashed and cultic like. Those who believe in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit but kind of ingore the crazies, those who are a mix between, and those who are in the frist group that are coming into the second group and are ready to leave.
None of this probably makes sense....lol....Lord knows if someone finds out who I am i'd be in some serious trouble.
Now that i'm older and I am a strong thinker I desire a closer relationship with the almight God and his son Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. I want to give back and not by how much money I put into a program for reason I can't comprehend or
http://www.saveethiopians.net/ Ex-Pentecostal-Letters.pdf
TrryOh

Monroe, NC

#247 Apr 6, 2010
House of Prayer Member

Philadelphia, PA

#248 Apr 6, 2010
TO "Just Love"

My heart goes out to you. I know exactly what you are going through. I was a member and when McCullough died I had a lot of questions as to what the faith was and what the religion stood for. It is never easy to leave something you have known all of your life. It was a process of me trying to talk to the elders of the church and trying to explain there is a need for God's word not "Daddy's word." I was met with such ridicule and retaliation that it actually fueled me to fight even harder for what I believed in. It got to the point I could no longer sit in service for I knew better and knew what I was hearing was sacrilegious. You have to pray to God for direction and guidance. No one knows what Gods plan is for you, you may be a planted seed to open the eyes of others or God may want to move you out of all of that. No one knows, but God. Really go into deep prayer and ask God to fight for you, ask him to give you the strength to endure so that you can service him and only him. Half of my family left the HOP the other half stayed. We are slowly working towards better relationships and maybe it will get better, but if not I am okay with that. I will sacrifice whatever needed for the one who sacrificed his life for me. Just try to imagine what Jesus went through just for us. No one should ever try to share in the praise and worship that is due him.

I will keep you in my prayers. Whatever your decision it will not be easy. For if you leave you will feel the void of those you love, but if you stay the guilt of betrayal to God will not allow you to remain.
Im Free

Philadelphia, PA

#249 Apr 10, 2010
Felix da Housecat wrote:
<quoted text>It's no surprise! I believe it! They need to be investigated!
This is some anti christ mess. Lets clear the air Daddy Grace was just a mortal man (cult)who exploited young virgin teenage girls for his own pleasure. Believe me because I was a victim. There was nothing heavenly or devine about him except the fact that he had the charistmatic ability to brainwash people into thinking that he was the Christ and when they called Daddy they were able to get an answer to their prayers. You can not pray directly to Jesus except you go through the Daddys (there has been three since Grace). And you will not get into heaven except you go through the United House of Prayer for all People which is ludicrous. And all other churches are outsiders and are going to hell. They are brainwashed on the scripture Isaiah 56-7 to think it means only the UHOP and not all the thousands of other buildings/churches with that name. They mask their doctrine by creating a wealth of young men blowing horns on the shout bands which sounds good when you go to the services, but ask them who are they lifting up when they quote psalms 150. When the smoke clear from all the shouting and cooking soul food, and collecting money to build mortgage free churches, just listen to the disceptive message from the pulpit. No outreach ministries in the poor neighborhoods. I'm glad I'm free and no more chains are holding me. Jesus said, "I am the door" "He that entereth any other way is as a thief and a robber., John 9:10 I pray every day for their deliverence.
TrryOh

Monroe, NC

#250 Apr 14, 2010
You got it.These pentacostal knockoffs,always some project that never transpires,no full accounting of finances.My guess is that if you do a full back ground check on these scammers,you will find things like forgery,fraud,ect.,ect..If you can get their real names.I doubt the preachers believe in God,likely atheists that talk a good game.
organized religion

Philadelphia, PA

#251 Apr 14, 2010
AMEN..........

I couldn't have said it better!!
Im Free wrote:
<quoted text>
This is some anti christ mess. Lets clear the air Daddy Grace was just a mortal man (cult)who exploited young virgin teenage girls for his own pleasure. Believe me because I was a victim. There was nothing heavenly or devine about him except the fact that he had the charistmatic ability to brainwash people into thinking that he was the Christ and when they called Daddy they were able to get an answer to their prayers. You can not pray directly to Jesus except you go through the Daddys (there has been three since Grace). And you will not get into heaven except you go through the United House of Prayer for all People which is ludicrous. And all other churches are outsiders and are going to hell. They are brainwashed on the scripture Isaiah 56-7 to think it means only the UHOP and not all the thousands of other buildings/churches with that name. They mask their doctrine by creating a wealth of young men blowing horns on the shout bands which sounds good when you go to the services, but ask them who are they lifting up when they quote psalms 150. When the smoke clear from all the shouting and cooking soul food, and collecting money to build mortgage free churches, just listen to the disceptive message from the pulpit. No outreach ministries in the poor neighborhoods. I'm glad I'm free and no more chains are holding me. Jesus said, "I am the door" "He that entereth any other way is as a thief and a robber., John 9:10 I pray every day for their deliverence.
Im Free

Philadelphia, PA

#252 Apr 17, 2010
Shondra Jean wrote:
I am going to miss him so much. I loved you Sweet Daddy Madison. I well remember when I was a maid and you so gently showed me what sex was all about so i wouldn't have to be scared. You said to not tell anyone since I was only 16 but now that you are gone I just feel like I have to tell the world. You did it so gently like a real Sweet Daddy should. Love always, Shonnie.
Shondra Jean, I feel so obligated to respond to this posting. You have been a victim of These old men using their power as Bishops to exploit and molest young virgin girls called maids for their own sexual purpose and nothing more. I was RAPED by the Old Daddy Grace many many years ago at age 14. However I thought that these new bishops discontinued that practice because they had wives, but it looks like Lady D has kept the practice going. I feel that they need to be exposed just like these priest are being exposed today and I will no longer hold my peace because they should be stopped. I would like to request for anyone else who have experienced this molestation by these Bishops to please respond to this posting.
I am Free

Philadelphia, PA

#253 Apr 20, 2010
Felix da Housecat wrote:
<quoted text>I believe that you are just a young girl that's smelling herself to get attention!
There is no way that you or your family didn't step up to the plate knowing that this was wrong even if you did get paid off to keep silent.
It's NOT cute! And I'm pretty sure that others will agree to that as well.
You should have been thinking about school/college rather than selling yourself out to a very much older married man who calls himself "GOD'S chosen man".....
If you really were a maid, I wonder what was going through your hot a-- brain when you saw him on the alter with his wife......
HouseCat You can believe everything the young girl told you as truth. His wife the LADY D is the one who set up this house maids to persuade and convince these young virgin girls to have sex with these Bishops. She is the culprit and she needs to be exposed. I was a victim to the Daddy Grace many years ago BY HER. But you are brainwashed not to tell and thats what I regret that I waited so long. However, after hearing this young girl talking about having sex with Madison I felt a need to come forward because that meant that a practice that I thought ended with Daddy Grace because he had no wife, still exist even though the Bishops have wives and it all leads back to DELORES BEALE MADISON. If it is not right its wrong and it is time that this ugly practice be exposed to the world like those priest was exposed. I HOPE IF ANYONE READING THIS POSTING WAS ABUSED PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY BY THIS ORGANIZATION PLEASE RESPOND.
janee

Springfield, MA

#254 Apr 23, 2010
i go to the house a prayer so the people that dont go th the house of prayer come and join wirh us abd travel with us ok u will gain alot of power with the bishop and god
janee

Springfield, MA

#255 Apr 23, 2010
u will gain alot of power and u will shout
janee

Springfield, MA

#256 Apr 23, 2010
i love u ok sout and talk to god just remember its only u and god
TrryOh

Monroe, NC

#257 Apr 23, 2010
And you are exactly what they are looking for.Illiterates that will believe anything,and do everything.But your words sort of tell the story.Is that what you tell yourself while'daddy'is on top of you?
You can talk to God and shout at home,or any place you want,you don't need help,it comes from the heart.Good luck,I hate to hear about people being taken advantage of.Seems that minister card gets them more than a tax exemption!
doodibutt

Monroe, NC

#258 May 1, 2010
JESUS IS LOVE

Sykesville, MD

#259 May 5, 2010
doodibutt wrote:
http://ex-pentecostals.org/
"Those who profess to be Pentecostals believe in Holiness in addition to receiving the Holy Ghost
with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues. Those who profess to be Apostolic believe and
teach Holiness, having the Pentecostal experience of receiving the Holy Ghost in addition to
being baptized in water in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ .There are many who profess
Holiness who do not believe in receiving the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking in
tongues nor being baptized in water in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. There are many who
call themselves Pentecostals that do not believe in being baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus
Christ, even though they believe in Holiness. The Apostolics believes in Holiness, the
Pentecostal experience of the baptism of the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives
them utterance, and the baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ.
For more information about “What We Believe,” please contact the Church"
^^Taken from an Apostolic organization in Washington, DC.
I HATE DOCTRINES. I GREW UP IN AN APOSTOLIC CHURCH. I DIDN'T LEAVE BECAUSE OF MONEY ISSUES (THEY DIDN'T BEG FOR MONEY, THEY HAD A GENERAL OFFERING JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CHURCH) BUT I LEFT BECAUSE I WAS SICK AND TIRED OF BEING TOLD WHAT TO WEAR. NO JEWELRY, NO MAKEUP, DRESSES ALL THE TIME. JESUS ISN'T LOOKING AT MY CLOTHES, HE'S LOOKING AT MY HEART. NOT LIKE I'M GONNA COME TO CHURCH DRESSED INAPPROPRIATELY ANYWAY! AND MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE HYPOCRITES ANYWAY. THEY LOOKED SO "HOLY" IN THEIR DRESSES, STOCKINGS, BIG HATS AND FANCY BIBLES, BUT THEY WEREN'T LIVING A HOLY LIFESTYLE!
WHEN I WAS 18 YEARS OLD, I JOINED A NON-DENOMINATIONAL "CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY" CHURCH, AND I AM STILL THERE TO THIS DAY. WE BELIEVE IN BAPTISM IN JESUS NAME, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVE NO LONG, DRAWN OUT DOCTRINE. I RECENTLY VISITED MY OLD APOSTOLIC CHURCH, AND IT SEEMS AS IF THE CHURCH IS DYING. THE CHURCH USED TO BE FULL TO CAPACITY, BUT NOW IT ONLY LOOKS AS IF ONLY 40 PEOPLE ATTEND ON A REGULAR SUNDAY. THEY HAVE A NEW PASTOR, SO I GUESS IT ISN'T AS STRICT BECAUSE THERE WERE WOMEN IN THE SANCTUARY WITH MAKE-UP AND PANT SUITS ON.
BUT MY POINT IS, LETS PUT THESE CRAZY DOCTRINES TO THE SIDE AND WORSHIP GOD TOGETHER!
BTW: HAS ANYONE REPORTED THIS MOLESTATION GOING ON IN THE UHOP TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES? THESE FOOLS NEED TO BE EXPOSED! GOD BLESS!
TrryOh

Monroe, NC

#260 May 5, 2010
You were young,as you stated.In addition to offerings,they require 10% of your time and wages,not to mention all the 'drives'such as dinner sales.They say it's for the church,but as the preachers have no one to answer to,who knows where the money goes?Good for you for breaking free,God did not create these denominations,Satan did to divide man and Christians.
Now,the rules,they have to have this as a gauge for the leader or leaders to make sure individuals are still compliant.It's all hypnoses and parlor tricks,nothing more.Being allowed to re translate the Bible allows them to use nonsense like the speaking in tongues.Tongues was an actual language that went out when the Jews were delivered.Anyone can read that and deduce that it was so they could communicate,being of different tribes.Upon their return,it was no longer needed.Old law,just like tithing,old law.They will lie,trick you,anything they can do to get you in to get you the holy ghost.Just like any cult.It was started in the early 1900's using methods similar to with doctors and others used for group indoctrination.Many think the are Gods children and are going to Heaven,when in fact the book of Timothy warns of these false deities using Christs name.Another tell tale it's a loose cult,they don't want their children in public schools.The preacher needs another generation subservient to him and his off spring,and they will learn to be individuals outside their loud music and rants.
Now back to these others,same thing based on the same principle.Some take advantage of their people more than others,but the threat is always there!Do one thing wrong and see if you don't get called out in front of your family,or church or whatever these assholes call it.You should pass the word to help others.Please read the following:
http://www.saveethiopians.net/Ex-Pentecostal-...
JESUS IS LOVE

Sykesville, MD

#261 May 5, 2010
TrryOh wrote:
You were young,as you stated.In addition to offerings,they require 10% of your time and wages,not to mention all the 'drives'such as dinner sales.They say it's for the church,but as the preachers have no one to answer to,who knows where the money goes?Good for you for breaking free,God did not create these denominations,Satan did to divide man and Christians.
Now,the rules,they have to have this as a gauge for the leader or leaders to make sure individuals are still compliant.It's all hypnoses and parlor tricks,nothing more.Being allowed to re translate the Bible allows them to use nonsense like the speaking in tongues.Tongues was an actual language that went out when the Jews were delivered.Anyone can read that and deduce that it was so they could communicate,being of different tribes.Upon their return,it was no longer needed.Old law,just like tithing,old law.They will lie,trick you,anything they can do to get you in to get you the holy ghost.Just like any cult.It was started in the early 1900's using methods similar to with doctors and others used for group indoctrination.Many think the are Gods children and are going to Heaven,when in fact the book of Timothy warns of these false deities using Christs name.Another tell tale it's a loose cult,they don't want their children in public schools.The preacher needs another generation subservient to him and his off spring,and they will learn to be individuals outside their loud music and rants.
Now back to these others,same thing based on the same principle.Some take advantage of their people more than others,but the threat is always there!Do one thing wrong and see if you don't get called out in front of your family,or church or whatever these assholes call it.You should pass the word to help others.Please read the following:
http://www.saveethiopians.net/Ex-Pentecostal-...
MY GRANDMOTHER IS STILL A MEMBER OF THAT APOSTOLIC CHURCH. SHE'S WELL RESPECTED, AND I APPLAUD HER BECAUSE SHE ACTUALLY PRACTICES WHAT SHE PREACHES, BUT IT WASN'T FOR ME. I WANT TO BE FREE TO WORSHIP GOD AS I PLEASE. IT'S NOT JUST PENTECOSTAL CHURCHES EITHER. BAPTISTS, CHURCHES OF CHRIST, EVANGELICAL CHURCHES AND MORE HAVE LONG, CRAZY DOCTRINES.

I came across this article because my grandfather was a part of the UHOP, and as a result his faith has been permanently damaged. He hasn't step foot into a church in about 15 years. I just want those demons over at the House of Prayer to be exposed for the frauds they are! GOD BLESS!

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