What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

[x0x0x]

the voice of one wrote:

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being married is not a matter of faith and morals ( it was decided that a priest who is married has a divided heart) yep no rosary, no hail mary but whats the point? Just like no rapture, the rapture was inspired by certain passages like " will be changed in the twinkling of an eye" ect ect

I think most of the book of Revelation has been misinterpreted. Modern day Christian Fundamentalists have turned it into big business by making it sound like some sci-fi horror flick in hopes of controlling it's masses through fear.

I find the book of Revelation to be quite inconsistent with the teachings of other books in the Bible. God tends to keep things rather mysterious whereas the Book of Revelation leaves nothing to the imagination.

[MiddleWay]

Joseph Tyson wrote:

<quoted text>None of which state that the world "stands still" as, it seems, you have interpreted.
Merely that it shall not move.
From its orbit?
From its place in the solar system?

Common belfief held by the Church, why such a stink about Galileo?

[Daniel P from Long Island]

Zack Lee Wright wrote:

being married is not a matter of faith and morals ( it was decided that a priest who is married has a divided heart) yep no rosary, no hail mary but whats the point? Just like no rapture, the rapture was inspired by certain passages like " will be changed in the twinkling of an eye" ect ect
OK,,, Hang on to your hats, you ain't going to like this.
In the middle ages, in all the villages, towns and citys the priest became one of the richest men in the area. Every time a priest died his wealth would go to his wife and children. The Vatican realized that if the priest did not marry, eventually everything would go to the church. Where exactly in the bible does it say priests should not marry ? Divided heart, really ?

That's EXACTLY right ! That's the only reason the Roman Catholic Church banned a married priesthood. and this rule only goes back roughly 900 years or so, so for MORE than half of the history of the Catholic church, priests COULD get married and raise a family like everyone else.

Also, this is NOT an iron rule. The Pope can (and DOES) give "special dispensation" for priests to get married. I believe South America has the largest amount of married Catholic priests.

Also, Christian ministers who convert to the RCC remain married (they're supposed to anyway), BUT they are NOT allowed to have sex with their wives ! Is this CRAZY or what ?!

THANK GOD i'm a PROTESTANT !:)

PEACE !:)

[Olderndirt]

Daniel P from Long Island wrote:

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That's EXACTLY right ! That's the only reason the Roman Catholic Church banned a married priesthood. and this rule only goes back roughly 900 years or so, so for MORE than half of the history of the Catholic church, priests COULD get married and raise a family like everyone else.
Also, this is NOT an iron rule. The Pope can (and DOES) give "special dispensation" for priests to get married. I believe South America has the largest amount of married Catholic priests.
Also, Christian ministers who convert to the RCC remain married (they're supposed to anyway), BUT they are NOT allowed to have sex with their wives ! Is this CRAZY or what ?!
THANK GOD i'm a PROTESTANT !:)
PEACE !:)

WRONG.....Another non-catholic who thinks he(she)is knowlegable about Catholics and will tell anyone who will listen about how messed up Catholics are. You don't know squat Danny. Did you make this up or did you read it somewhere???

[Louise]

People like you give other churches bad names, Peter was the first bishop of Rome for at least 25 years ,he was martyred around the year of 64 so how do you come up with this idea that it was 300 years after Jesus ascended to heaven??

x0x0x wrote:

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FOUR WORDS FOR YOU YOU BRAINWASHED CATHOLIC SHEEP!
J E S U S W A S A J E W
JESUS WAS A JEW
JESUS WAS A JEW
See what the church has done to you.....
St. Peter found the modern day catholic church 300 years AFTER CHRIST DIED.
The OLD TESTAMENT was written by the JEWS, NOT CATHOLICS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T EXIST AND NEITHER DID CHRIST. He was born thousands of years after the OLD TESTAMENT was written.
You are uneducated, misinformed and certifiable.

[Louise]

you do say the oddest things, Catholics believe in Jesus with all thier hearts and like all the rest of the churchs we do our best to follow his words and walk in his footprints, we make mistakes,we are human you know, catholics are christians and im tired of people like yourself trying to tell me im not.we do not make our own rules up ,we just do what the bible says we should do.

fed up with the mess wrote:

Catholics believe in catholics and Christians believe in JESUS. Catholics make up their own rules and Christians obey the word of GOD. Thats it!

[Louise]

daniel your kidding right?? geez i wonder if anyone has told them , if they are married when they come to the catholic church,they are not told they must remain celibate, where do you come up with this stuff?

Daniel P from Long Island wrote:

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That's EXACTLY right ! That's the only reason the Roman Catholic Church banned a married priesthood. and this rule only goes back roughly 900 years or so, so for MORE than half of the history of the Catholic church, priests COULD get married and raise a family like everyone else.
Also, this is NOT an iron rule. The Pope can (and DOES) give "special dispensation" for priests to get married. I believe South America has the largest amount of married Catholic priests.
Also, Christian ministers who convert to the RCC remain married (they're supposed to anyway), BUT they are NOT allowed to have sex with their wives ! Is this CRAZY or what ?!
THANK GOD i'm a PROTESTANT !:)
PEACE !:)

[stoobee]

Louise wrote:

People like you give other churches bad names, Peter was the first bishop of Rome for at least 25 years ,he was martyred around the year of 64 so how do you come up with this idea that it was 300 years after Jesus ascended to heaven?? <quoted text>

I asked him the same question; he already responded that he did not know. Now, a question for you: where in the Scriptures does it say Peter was a Bishop of Rome for twenty-five years...or do you go by some other book?

Thanks,
Stoobee

[x0x0x]

Louise wrote:

People like you give other churches bad names, Peter was the first bishop of Rome for at least 25 years ,he was martyred around the year of 64 so how do you come up with this idea that it was 300 years after Jesus ascended to heaven?? <quoted text>

Because it was.

[x0x0x]

Louise wrote:

People like you give other churches bad names, Peter was the first bishop of Rome for at least 25 years ,he was martyred around the year of 64 so how do you come up with this idea that it was 300 years after Jesus ascended to heaven?? <quoted text>

"People like you"? Really Louise? Do I give other churches a bad name because you don't agree with the time frame that the Catholic Church started which was around 300 years ago?

We are all the same, Louise and it's so-called 'Christians' like you who say unChristian like things such as "People like you". Jesus never spoke like that. Try to raise your standards.

[Say the Truth]

x0x0x wrote:

<quoted text>The Bible never says Priests should not marry. That was a rule initiated by the Catholic Church some 700 years ago. Prior to that, they were allowed to marry. People accept what the church says as truth and it's our fault that we don't research and get to the truth ourselves.

I believe the non-marriage requirement was implemented because some priests (including Popes if I'm correct) were treating the church as herditary monarchy in the Middle Ages.

[Say the Truth]

Louise wrote:

you do say the oddest things, Catholics believe in Jesus with all thier hearts and like all the rest of the churchs we do our best to follow his words and walk in his footprints, we make mistakes,we are human you know, catholics are christians and im tired of people like yourself trying to tell me im not.we do not make our own rules up ,we just do what the bible says we should do. <quoted text>

I guess that life-sized statue of the crucified Christ at the center of the altar in my church is just there as a piece of art.

[Olderndirt]

x0x0x wrote:

<quoted text>"People like you"? Really Louise? Do I give other churches a bad name because you don't agree with the time frame that the Catholic Church started which was around 300 years ago?
We are all the same, Louise and it's so-called 'Christians' like you who say unChristian like things such as "People like you". Jesus never spoke like that. Try to raise your standards.

xOxOx...Are you serious about the Catholic Church being 300 years old?? With all due respect, how did you arrive at that??
Ya gotta take into consideration when folks like Louise come on kind of strong is because our church(the Catholic Church) is so misrepresented and then laughed at by, obviously, Catholic bashers, who do the misrepresenting, it's not easy hearing these lies. Belittling our faith has been an industry for hundreds of years.
Considering the Catholic Church has been around for what we believe is 2000 years,with billions and billions of members, there have been many scandles in our church. To read garbage like married priests aren't allowed to have sexual relations with their wives, as unbelievable as that is, some will read it and believe it to be true.

[Newsman100]

What divides Catholics and Protestants?

Catholics have cellars and Protestants have basements!

[Daniel P from Long Island]

Newsman100 wrote:

What divides Catholics and Protestants?
Catholics have cellars and Protestants have basements!

NOT TRUE ! I was born and raised Protestant and have ALWAYS had a cellar and NEVER a basement.

( I think in general, a "cellar" is unfinished, and a "basement' is finished. that's how I have always understood the words to be and that's always how I have used them.)

PEACE !:)

[Olderndirt]

Daniel P from Long Island wrote:

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NOT TRUE ! I was born and raised Protestant and have ALWAYS had a cellar and NEVER a basement.
( I think in general, a "cellar" is unfinished, and a "basement' is finished. that's how I have always understood the words to be and that's always how I have used them.)
PEACE !:)

Wrong again....cellars are rooms under a structure used to make and store wine. A basement is a room under a structure but cannot have wine in it. So we disagree again.

[keltec 9mm]

x0x0x wrote:

<quoted text>The Bible never says Priests should not marry. That was a rule initiated by the Catholic Church some 700 years ago. Prior to that, they were allowed to marry. People accept what the church says as truth and it's our fault that we don't research and get to the truth ourselves.

It doesn't really matter if the bible says priests should not marry. Jesus made the church first, the New Testament came second. He gave the church the power to bind and loose and His church decided it would be better if priests did not marry. Putting the cart before the horse makes for a bumpy trip.

[keltec 9mm]

x0x0x wrote:

<quoted text>Thank you and I do appreciate your wisdom on the matter. I don't know why I'm so jaded on this subject. The Catholic church never did anything to hurt me personally. Others? Yes. Especially children, and as I mom, I can't turn a blind eye.
I will admit that this Pope DID address this while visiting the US and that did give me some comfort. Also, it sounded like the victims felt they had obtained closure from his words of regret. So, let's give credit where it's due.
However, when the Pope says "The one true faith, or The one true church" it sets me off (and others as well) because believing in God IS the one true faith. Believing in something you have never seen, or no proof has been given of it's existance, IS faith.
Do we really have to compare whose faith is bigger, or better or more genuine? To me, that is voicing immature thoughts that produce absolutely nothing positive.
Actions speak louder than words so all the work the RC does for the poor around the world IS amazing and a testament to their faith. Those acts of kindness alone should be satisfying enough without the added "We're #1"! cheer, don't you agree?

I agree with you when you condemn the sexual abuse of minors by catholic priests. What I do find a bit strange is your lack of addressing the same issue in the Protestant churches.Is this because they do not claim to be the one true church so lessis expected from them? Statistics state the abuse is greater in these churches.

[keltec 9mm]

Wayne Co Voter wrote:

I am quiet ignorant when it comes to the Catholic faith. Could someone tell me if it is mentioned in the bible to say a "Hail Mary?" Where did this come from? Obviously there are many different interpretations of the Bible with regard to Protestant denominations. I for one do not believe Jesus is God, but the son of God. I do not believe they are one and the same. However, with that being said, I would like to know what is stated in the Bible that enables Catholics to partake in their practices. Is it mostly tradition? With regard to baptism, the Bible leads me to believe that people were actually taken under water during the process. I see many aspects of the Catholic church that are unclear to me. How are many Catholic practices supported by scripture?

I am confused as to your logic. Where did Jesus say if a Hail Mary is, or isn't, in the bible you can, or can not, say it? You folks are slaves to biblical interpretation and, sadly, do not agree with each other on much of the interpretations. Jesus did not write a book for that reason, He created a living church to teach and make decisions concerning the faith.

[Zack Lee Wright]

keltec 9mm wrote:

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It doesn't really matter if the bible says priests should not marry. Jesus made the church first, the New Testament came second. He gave the church the power to bind and loose and His church decided it would be better if priests did not marry. Putting the cart before the horse makes for a bumpy trip.

See what I mean, It doesn't really matter if the bible says, Jesus made the church first, the New Testament came second. His church decided it would be better if priests did not marry. Thanks for clearing that up.
There is over one billion Catholics and about one billion Protestants in a world of six billion, not billions and billions of members as olderthandirt wrote. And strangely enough there are some that think because they are the oldest and biggest they are the best. They are proud to be part of a organization that is responsible for more misery than any dictator, king or empire. But there's plenty of blame to go around, I'm not prejudiced, I dislike all churches. If the Lutheran Church had been around as long as the Catholic Church, I'm sure it would be a tie game. What Divides Catholics and Protestants?
Protestants attempt to find truth in the bible, Catholics listen to a man in Rome.