What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

[Black Hebrew]

Ooops, forgot to include the link, lol.

http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/nazare...

[Allen Richards]

Black Hebrew wrote:

By the way, here's an interesting paragraph from the article:
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Initially, the Nazarenes were never considered heretical by the Pharisees. In fact they were so zealous for the law of Moses that the Nazarenes (or Jerusalem "Christians") were considered an ultra-pious group of Jews.[12] As the early Church Father, Hegesippus, relates, James was famous for his strict observance of the Jewish law and for undertaking vows which are normally taken only by the most devout Pharisee.[13] As James, Peter and, presumably, many of their followers knew the earthly Jesus, it is hard to imagine that these actions would be contrary to Jesus' teachings. It was more likely that they were doing what Jesus, when he was alive, commanded them to do. In fact these original apostles of Jesus, headed by James and Peter, never accepted Paul as a true apostle. The uneasy relationship forged after the Jerusalem council was broken off at Antioch and was never mended. Despite Paul's attempts to bribe his way back with an offering of cash collection from his Gentile congregations, James and his church never accepted Paul back into the fold."

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NO, ZERO, NONE evidence of any kind. Just some doods pipedream.

[Black Hebrew]

Allen Richards wrote:

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NO, ZERO, NONE evidence of any kind. Just some doods pipedream.

Naturally, as a "christ is G-d" Topix user, you're gonna disagree for the sake of disagreeing...however this really isn't up for debate, it's a fact: the earliest Christians we're called "nazarenes", they obeyed most of the law, and didn't worship Yeshuah Bin Yusef as G-d.

I'm sorry that the truth doesn't fit into the story that you believe.

Shalom

[Disciple of Jesus]

Baptist were first called Christians at Antioch. Easy to trace Baptist to the Apostles even in the encyclopedia Britannica. Baptism was their practice.

One must have the circumcision of the heart and baptism by fire to be a born again Child of God.

Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Col 3:11 (KJV)

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Romans 2:28-29 (KJV)

[Allen Richards]

Black Hebrew wrote:

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Naturally, as a "christ is G-d" Topix user, you're gonna disagree for the sake of disagreeing...however this really isn't up for debate, it's a fact: the earliest Christians we're called "nazarenes", they obeyed most of the law, and didn't worship Yeshuah Bin Yusef as G-d.
I'm sorry that the truth doesn't fit into the story that you believe.
Shalom

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You saying something is a fact does not make it so. I agree one group of early Christian's were known as Nazarenes, everything else you said is all speculation.

[Black Hebrew]

Allen Richards wrote:

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You saying something is a fact does not make it so. I agree one group of early Christian's were known as Nazarenes, everything else you said is all speculation.

Lol, so then you deny that the first followers of Yeshuah--all of them jews--kept the law and didn't worship him as G-d?

That's hilarious.

[barry]

Black Hebrew wrote:

By the way, here's an interesting paragraph from the article:
"
Initially, the Nazarenes were never considered heretical by the Pharisees. In fact they were so zealous for the law of Moses that the Nazarenes (or Jerusalem "Christians") were considered an ultra-pious group of Jews.[12] As the early Church Father, Hegesippus, relates, James was famous for his strict observance of the Jewish law and for undertaking vows which are normally taken only by the most devout Pharisee.[13] As James, Peter and, presumably, many of their followers knew the earthly Jesus, it is hard to imagine that these actions would be contrary to Jesus' teachings. It was more likely that they were doing what Jesus, when he was alive, commanded them to do. In fact these original apostles of Jesus, headed by James and Peter, never accepted Paul as a true apostle. The uneasy relationship forged after the Jerusalem council was broken off at Antioch and was never mended. Despite Paul's attempts to bribe his way back with an offering of cash collection from his Gentile congregations, James and his church never accepted Paul back into the fold."

so just when do you think that peter came this conclusion about paul?

2 Peter 3:15
"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;"

[Ashelah]

Black Hebrew wrote:

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Lol, so then you deny that the first followers of Yeshuah--all of them jews--kept the law and didn't worship him as G-d?
That's hilarious.

Who or what is G-d????
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[barry]

barry wrote:

<quoted text>so just when do you think that peter came this conclusion about paul?
2 Peter 3:15
"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;"

somebody either thinks that the question is crazy or that that the word of God is funny.
however apparently they didn't have an answer for the question.

[barry]

Juicylu wrote:

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Who or what is G-d????
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that is a good question. it used to be the first letters of a cuss. probably still is, in common use.

[Ashelah]

barry wrote:

<quoted text>that is a good question. it used to be the first letters of a cuss. probably still is, in common use.

Which cuss?
;p

[Cookie_Parker]

Black Hebrew wrote:

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Here's a short article explaining the term "nazarene". It's written by "A skeptic's guide to Christianity"--not the greatest source--but gives a good, brief explanation none-the-less,
Shalom

Link?

[barry]

Juicylu wrote:

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Which cuss?
;p

sorry, not in my vocabulary. ask the rev jeremiah wright.

[Allen Richards]

barry wrote:

<quoted text>that is a good question. it used to be the first letters of a cuss. probably still is, in common use.

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G-d is an affectation by Jews and wannabe-Jews so that they don't dishonor God's name. Orthodox Jews say "Ha Shem" Hebrew for "The Name" when referring to God.

[Ashelah]

Allen Richards wrote:

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G-d is an affectation by Jews and wannabe-Jews so that they don't dishonor God's name. Orthodox Jews say "Ha Shem" Hebrew for "The Name" when referring to God.

Oh. Ok. Thanks for telling me, I didn't know that and was wondering if I should be offended or not.
Peace <3

[Whisgean Zoda]

Nettiebelle wrote:

<quoted text>Catholics worship God and His Son, Jesus.
No Catholic worships the virgin Mary. She is, however, honored because she is the mother of the Son of God, Jesus.

Really? Cuz I've sure heard more than a fair share of prayers to Mary and any number of "saints".

[Whisgean Zoda]

barry wrote:

<quoted text>help us out and name one country that nationalized their oil "and Spends the Money on Bringing Food, Work, Infrastructure, Education, Money, Etc. to their Populace". we really do want to make sure that we hate them.

Canada did during the days of PetroCan.

[Whisgean Zoda]

Romans Road wrote:

Nettiebelle,
The Catholic church twisting scriptures is nothing new......the Word of God is the final say on all matters involving born again Christians.
A truly saved person will follow the command to get baptized (full water immersion) but that doesn't save them. They are already saved by grace through faith in the blood of Jesus. Salvation cannot be earned.(Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 10:9-13, John 3:16-18)
Anyone reading this post who is saved but not yet baptized, I encourage you to get baptized the scriptural way (full water immersion). Visit a bible believing Baptist church and talk to the pastor, he'll be trilled to baptize a new Christian.

Hmmm, does it have to be a Baptist Church? Or will any Bible believing Church do?

[Whisgean Zoda]

Juicylu wrote:

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Oh. Ok. Thanks for telling me, I didn't know that and was wondering if I should be offended or not.
Peace <3

I do hope you were joking about the near miss on being offended O.O

[Ashelah]

Whisgean Zoda wrote:

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I do hope you were joking about the near miss on being offended O.O

I wasn't joking. A lot of people disrespect the name of God on topix, I wasn't sure what it meant, which is why I asked.
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