What Divides Catholics and Protestants?

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Dan wrote:

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You forgot authority; Catholics believe in apostolic succession that gives priests authority to teach (not just the ability, but some credibility vs. the 114th Street Theological Seminary and Secretarial School)

and the Prots will listen to any old car-salesman with a bible and a soap-box. as long as his sales-pitch sounds good, he's suddenly in charge of a mega-church where he can steal and lie and still he's venerated...

there is something to be said about tradition and education...

[john]

Dan wrote:

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You forgot authority; Catholics believe in apostolic succession that gives priests authority to teach (not just the ability, but some credibility vs. the 114th Street Theological Seminary and Secretarial School)

In theory the Roman Catholic Church could have a pedophile in the apostolic succession! You forget that one of the criminals crucified with Christ was only a "short time" believer. Was he saved as stated in the Bible? Mormans also put great importance to how long their family has been Morman. The Roman Catholic statement about apostolic succession is the same.

[MiddleWay]

Dan wrote:

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You forgot authority; Catholics believe in apostolic succession that gives priests authority to teach (not just the ability, but some credibility vs. the 114th Street Theological Seminary and Secretarial School)

That apostolic succession is as made up as transubstantiation and the rosary, not to mention every Roman altar has a piece of a person in it, from fingernails to Jesus' foreskin.

Disgusting and unChristian....

[Mike]

Many prostestant minister are as educated if not more so than catholic priests.
How about:Inquistion, crusades, joan of arc,Galileo,slavery,WWII,silen cing of credible theologians

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[MiddleWay]

Dan wrote:

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Anthony-
While the Bible was not printed in ANY language for centuries past the death of Christ, this doesn't stop Protestants from assuming their "Bible alone" beliefs, which effectively makes the start of Christianity dependent upon the invention of the printing press and the establishment of universal literacy.

The New Testament was handwritten in Aramaic, otherwise the Greeks wouldn't have had anything to mistranslate.

Scripture Tradition and REASON...

[Dan]

john wrote:

<quoted text> In theory the Roman Catholic Church could have a pedophile in the apostolic succession! You forget that one of the criminals crucified with Christ was only a "short time" believer. Was he saved as stated in the Bible? Mormans also put great importance to how long their family has been Morman. The Roman Catholic statement about apostolic succession is the same.

In theory, you are correct; recall Judas was an apostle. Apostles were men, and none of them was born without sin, correct?

I made no mention of salvation, but Jesus told him he was saved-who am I to argue that?

Apostolic succession speaks to teaching authority, not how long you can trace your lineage in the faith.

[Dan]

MiddleWay wrote:

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That apostolic succession is as made up as transubstantiation and the rosary, not to mention every Roman altar has a piece of a person in it, from fingernails to Jesus' foreskin.
Disgusting and unChristian....

To you. Catholics believe in apostolic succession and it has a scriptural basis, just as transubstantiation does.

If a guy wants to get a degree from some Bible college and call it good, no problem with me, but I don't see anything there that tells me he is qualified to interpret or teach Holy Scripture to me or anyone else.

[Dan]

Mike wrote:

Many prostestant minister are as educated if not more so than catholic priests.
How about:Inquistion, crusades, joan of arc,Galileo,slavery,WWII,silen cing of credible theologians

None of which have a thing to do with apostolic succession; if you're stating that no harm was ever done by a Protestant minister in his vestments, you are probably exaggerating.

[Dan]

MiddleWay wrote:

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The New Testament was handwritten in Aramaic, otherwise the Greeks wouldn't have had anything to mistranslate.
Scripture Tradition and REASON...

And all could read the Aramaic? There was 100% literacy in Aramaic?

You are in a hole-stop digging.

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Will Protestants go to heaven?
Will Catholics go to heaven?
End of discussion?

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MiddleWay wrote:

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That apostolic succession is as made up as transubstantiation and the rosary, not to mention every Roman altar has a piece of a person in it, from fingernails to Jesus' foreskin.
Disgusting and unChristian....

no one has J's foreskin...thats just BS, more lies...

it never ends with you guys...never miss a chance to lie.

[john]

Dan wrote:

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None of which have a thing to do with apostolic succession; if you're stating that no harm was ever done by a Protestant minister in his vestments, you are probably exaggerating.

Apostolic succession is something we will never agree on.

[john]

Dan wrote:

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None of which have a thing to do with apostolic succession; if you're stating that no harm was ever done by a Protestant minister in his vestments, you are probably exaggerating.

It doesn't do any good to be mean to sincere believers of any faith.

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MiddleWay wrote:

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The New Testament was handwritten in Aramaic, otherwise the Greeks wouldn't have had anything to mistranslate.
Scripture Tradition and REASON...

The NT didnt exist until all the scattered manuscripts were brought together...and compiled into the biblical canon...there was no NT beofre that...

[Logic]

Both Catholics and Protestants are wrong, but I do admire Catholics much more than Protestants...Catholics have remained for 2,000 years despite their lows...Protestants protested 500 years ago and look at all the chaos there is...over 40 different Baptist denominations in the U.S. alone; over 4,000 Protestant sects and denominations as well. Its Protestants Gone Wild, they can't even agree with themselves. And how convenient for Protestants to accept the Sacred Tradition of giving Jesus divinity by a vote at Nicea and the tradition of including certain books and excluding others from the Bible. Protestants also as a whole accept the Tradition of the Trinity. So you see, for some things they accept tradition, but for Mary, Saints, Eucharist, they blow off tradition...also, Catholics don't go around thumping Bibles in your face like Protestants do, its obvious they have an inferiority complex.

[Logic]

Also, James David Manning calls the Protestants a Bastard Church! LOL...I love that guy!

[Dan]

john wrote:

<quoted text> It doesn't do any good to be mean to sincere believers of any faith.

Who's being mean-he equivocated ills being performed in God's name with the Catholic church, did he not?

[Dan]

john wrote:

<quoted text> It doesn't do any good to be mean to sincere believers of any faith.

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Mike wrote:
Many prostestant minister are as educated if not more so than catholic priests.
How about:Inquistion, crusades, joan of arc,Galileo,slavery,WWII,silen cing of credible theologians"

Mike was being "nice", right?

[Dan]

john wrote:

<quoted text>Apostolic succession is something we will never agree on.

If we agreed, you would not be Protestant. Understand that-

If no apostolic succession, upon what authority would a Protestant Minsiter preach (if not exclusively his own authority)?

Does this not present a conundrum for protestants, since they believe that the Bible alone is sufficient? If the Bible is sufficient, would a preacher not be redundant?