Why the next pope should be African

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Dwain Sawh

Brooklyn, NY

#75 Feb 21, 2013
The next pope will probably be from North America.
just the fax

Texarkana, TX

#77 Feb 21, 2013
http://news.msn.com/world/where-will-the-next...

according to yesterday's msn.com news article,
there are 289 million followers in south america,
there are 262 million followers in europe,
there are 206 million followers in north america,
there are 176 million followers in africa,
there are 131 million followers in asia/pacific.
so if you go by the most population of catholics,
then africa would be fourth in line.
technically based on population alone
south america would be the first choice.
just the fax

Texarkana, TX

#78 Feb 21, 2013
just the facts... your welcome
crucifix up the butt

Pittston, PA

#79 Feb 21, 2013
a black guy should become pope---to do all those white nuns up their butts.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#80 Feb 21, 2013
just the fax wrote:
http://news.msn.com/world/wher e-will-the-next-pope-come-from
according to yesterday's msn.com news article,
there are 289 million followers in south america,
there are 262 million followers in europe,
there are 206 million followers in north america,
there are 176 million followers in africa,
there are 131 million followers in asia/pacific.
so if you go by the most population of catholics,
then africa would be fourth in line.
technically based on population alone
south america would be the first choice.
South America is also where the catholic church is expanding, while in North America it's actually contracting.

I'd bet on the Brazilian cardinal Odilo.

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#81 Feb 21, 2013
tanftx wrote:
<quoted text>
i never said i dont want him to be african.
just that he shouldnt get the job just because of that.
whoever is the most qualified should get it.
if the african applicant is most qualified, then he should get it. if he isnt the most qualified, then the person who is should get it. that holds true for all the applicants.
If many applicants from many places are equally qualified, why not give it to an African? Can you answer that? You pretend that only one person is best-qualified, but I'm saying that's not necessarily true.

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#82 Feb 21, 2013
just the fax wrote:
http://news.msn.com/world/wher e-will-the-next-pope-come-from
according to yesterday's msn.com news article,
there are 289 million followers in south america,
there are 262 million followers in europe,
there are 206 million followers in north america,
there are 176 million followers in africa,
there are 131 million followers in asia/pacific.
so if you go by the most population of catholics,
then africa would be fourth in line.
technically based on population alone
south america would be the first choice.
Well, whaddya know, those actually appear to be facts! A first for you.:)

You're right as far as it goes, but are the populations of Catholics in those places growing, or shrinking? That'd be another question to answer.

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#83 Feb 21, 2013
Deal With It wrote:
<quoted text>Speak englis [sic] moron and we wouldn't have these misunderstanding [sic] then [sic] and you implied that I lived there.
LOL! Hilarious post.
Clem

Hamilton, Canada

#84 Feb 21, 2013
God should pick the pope.
just the fax

Texarkana, TX

#85 Feb 21, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
<quoted text>
If many applicants from many places are equally qualified, why not give it to an African? Can you answer that? You pretend that only one person is best-qualified, but I'm saying that's not necessarily true.
1st, you dont know they are equally qualified applicants that is an assumpution you are making, 2nd if each of those five major land masses has one applicant then each applicant in an equally qualified consideration should get 20% chance of the job. you just want to give the black guy 100% guarantee by your own definition of all things being equal. you better do your math! thats not equal. thats dealing from the bottom of the card deck to get the demographic you want. 5th, increasing following does not equal the ability to manage an entire global network. africa is just now getting its following above 100MM something the other major land masses have already done. i dont see why the least experienced lowest populated deserves special consideration over the more experienced more populated applicants. 4th, where are your statistics to justify that one guy getting first choice because you think it should be done. when the conclave calls your cell phone and asks for your permission on how they may make their decisions, let meknow and we can both be impressed. you provided no statistics to prove your point so dont be gettin smart when i at least look some numbers. spend your smart mouth time in some research time and bring something more qualified to the discussion other than your juvenille one upsmanship.

... you're welcome

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#86 Feb 21, 2013
just the fax wrote:
<quoted text>
1st, you dont know they are equally qualified applicants that is an assumpution you are making, 2nd if each of those five major land masses has one applicant then each applicant in an equally qualified consideration should get 20% chance of the job. you just want to give the black guy 100% guarantee by your own definition of all things being equal. you better do your math! thats not equal. thats dealing from the bottom of the card deck to get the demographic you want. 5th, increasing following does not equal the ability to manage an entire global network. africa is just now getting its following above 100MM something the other major land masses have already done. i dont see why the least experienced lowest populated deserves special consideration over the more experienced more populated applicants. 4th, where are your statistics to justify that one guy getting first choice because you think it should be done. when the conclave calls your cell phone and asks for your permission on how they may make their decisions, let meknow and we can both be impressed. you provided no statistics to prove your point so dont be gettin smart when i at least look some numbers. spend your smart mouth time in some research time and bring something more qualified to the discussion other than your juvenille one upsmanship.
... you're welcome
I said "IF they are all equally qualified." Evidently you're not intelligent enough to understand that that was a CONDITIONAL, or you don't know what the word "if" means.

You want to make this mathematic, and it is not and will never be. Choosing a Pope is politics and it is emotional. An African has as good a chance as any, and I for one would applaud that even if you would not.

Your childish insults I merely ignore. Clearly you're a hypocrite as well as a poor debater. So long!
just the fax

Texarkana, TX

#87 Feb 21, 2013
the conclave is not waiting on what you would applaud as a basis for their decision. i provided an orderly facts supported reasoning ssytem and it is you who are in fact acting impulsive on your decisions with no statistical backing to justify your assertions. clearly you are a hypocrite who trolls others posts to cheap shot their opinions with unsubstantiated opinions of your own. your conditional what if theorizing does not directly address the statistical numbers that africa is not a fully developed population or leadership experience center of the catholic church. you have not provided any specific qualifications for their applicants as being equal or better than the other choices, but you feel... you FEEL it would be something worth applauding. clearly you want to put a minority in the job simply to fill a percentage quota of minorities to majorities and that is free hand out entitlements and dealing from the bottom of the card deck. bottom line.

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#88 Feb 21, 2013
just the fax wrote:
the conclave is not waiting on what you would applaud as a basis for their decision. i provided an orderly facts supported reasoning ssytem and it is you who are in fact acting impulsive on your decisions with no statistical backing to justify your assertions. clearly you are a hypocrite who trolls others posts to cheap shot their opinions with unsubstantiated opinions of your own. your conditional what if theorizing does not directly address the statistical numbers that africa is not a fully developed population or leadership experience center of the catholic church. you have not provided any specific qualifications for their applicants as being equal or better than the other choices, but you feel... you FEEL it would be something worth applauding. clearly you want to put a minority in the job simply to fill a percentage quota of minorities to majorities and that is free hand out entitlements and dealing from the bottom of the card deck. bottom line.
"africa is not a fully developed population or leadership experience center of the catholic church"

"specific qualifications for their applicants as being equal or better than the other choices"

"clearly you want to put a minority in the job simply to fill a percentage quota of minorities"

"free hand out entitlements and dealing from the bottom of the card deck"

FOUR passages from your OWN post, in your OWN words, indicating your far-right politics and barely-covert racism.

You are despicable and childish. Go away.
just the fax

Texarkana, TX

#89 Feb 21, 2013
for an agnostic, you sure have a lot of motivated interest in the issue

not too sure about you or your notions
i iz god

Hazleton, PA

#90 Feb 22, 2013
Clem wrote:
God should pick the pope.
i, god his self, pick roman polanksi to be pope.

amen.

those who disagree with me, god his self, will go to....HELL!

POPE ROMAN POLANKSI.

end of arguement.

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#92 Feb 22, 2013
just the fax wrote:
for an agnostic, you sure have a lot of motivated interest in the issue
not too sure about you or your notions
Just annoyance with you, really. I don't give a damn who the Roman Pedophile Church chooses, although for the sake of their innocent followers I hope it's someone who cleans up the foul mess they've created over the last few generations. Someone really needs to give that Church an enema.
just the fax

Texarkana, TX

#93 Feb 22, 2013
so the truth of your mockery is finally revealed.
as it should be... as it should be.

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