Pope wades diplomatically into gay marriage debate

Jun 14, 2013 Full story: Seattle Times 132

Pope Francis waded diplomatically into the gay marriage debate Friday, telling the Archbishop of Canterbury he wants to work together to promote family values "based on marriage."

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snyper

Tempe, AZ

#131 Jun 28, 2013
sorry to argue with you dan, lets kiss and make up.
dan

Tempe, AZ

#132 Jun 28, 2013
snyper wrote:
sorry to argue with you dan, lets kiss and make up.
Just give me a time and place

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#133 Jun 28, 2013
Dan wrote:
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LOL.
You just affirmed my earlier post.
They oppose SSM, which is contra to their teaching, and you broad brush it into some overarching assault on pluralism.
Again with the Straw Man Fallacy! Sheesh!

The "assault on pluralism" is not in the "teaching", but in the active direct and indirect attempts to install that teaching as Laws controlling those who do not subscribe to their sectarian religionism AND do not wish their "teaching".

CIVIL Marriage is NOT a church matter.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#134 Jun 28, 2013
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Again with the Straw Man Fallacy! Sheesh!
The "assault on pluralism" is not in the "teaching", but in the active direct and indirect attempts to install that teaching as Laws controlling those who do not subscribe to their sectarian religionism AND do not wish their "teaching".
CIVIL Marriage is NOT a church matter.
Social constructs are a church matter.

They didn't sponsor any bills. They can publicly support issues.

Don't be so sophomoric. Had they vocally supported defeat of Prop 8, you wouldn't have said a thing other than to laud them for their forward thinking for some such.

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#135 Jun 28, 2013
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Social constructs are a church matter.
They didn't sponsor any bills. They can publicly support issues.
Don't be so sophomoric. Had they vocally supported defeat of Prop 8, you wouldn't have said a thing other than to laud them for their forward thinking for some such.
CIVIL law is NOT the purview of the church.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#136 Jun 28, 2013
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CIVIL law is NOT the purview of the church.
Didn't say it was, speaking of straw man arguments.

Social constructs and issues ARE within the purview of the Church to the extent that they can and do make comment upon then in accord with their teachings.

Poverty, war, immigration, the welfare of the family, etc.

Nothing new with this-you're just cranked that they have a high profile and disagree with you.

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#137 Jun 28, 2013
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Social constructs are a church matter....
SO they assert.

I do not so stipulate.

They arrogate such to themselves, historically at the points of other people's swords. Plausible deniability, doncha know. They kind of invented it.

My response to such back in the day was, "Mealy-mouth lie like that again and I will sew your lips shut".

Nostalgia, ah nostalgia.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#138 Jun 28, 2013
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SO they assert.
I do not so stipulate.
They arrogate such to themselves, historically at the points of other people's swords. Plausible deniability, doncha know. They kind of invented it.
My response to such back in the day was, "Mealy-mouth lie like that again and I will sew your lips shut".
Nostalgia, ah nostalgia.
I guess their assertion is a valid as yours is to the contrary.

I'm just taken aback at the constant push to stifle opposing viewpoints from those so anxious to have their own voices heard.

“Science not Conservatism”

Since: Jan 12

Progress, not Denial

#139 Jun 28, 2013
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.....and they can adhere to their own beliefs, despite your opinion of them.
Adhering to teenage boys seems the popular thing among the Catholic clergy....LOL

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#140 Jun 28, 2013
Dan wrote:
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I guess their assertion is a valid as yours is to the contrary.
I'm just taken aback at the constant push to stifle opposing viewpoints from those so anxious to have their own voices heard.
A corollary to that is the sphere of CIVIL law where the individual citizen matters, and their churches not at all.

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#141 Jun 28, 2013
Dan wrote:
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I guess their assertion is a valid as yours is to the contrary.
I'm just taken aback at the constant push to stifle opposing viewpoints from those so anxious to have their own voices heard.
You mean like these?

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2013/06/28/30...
Sara

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#143 Jul 1, 2013
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