With Resignation of Pope, LGBTs Hope for True Dialogue on Rights

Feb 25, 2013 Full story: EDGE 15

Pope Benedict has been a longtime architect of the anti-gay rhetoric in much of the Catholic Church's official position LGBT communities across the globe have spent much of the last few weeks speculating about the future of their relationship with the Catholic Church.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#1 Feb 25, 2013
Don't hold your breath. The next pope is likely to be just as reactionary and backward as this one, and the one sof the preceeding centuries.

People spend way too much time paying attention to the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church.

As a church-going Lutheran, I say rememmber the words of the great Reformation leader Martin Luther when he said about the pope: "Pay no attention to that man in the silly hat !:)"

Since: Nov 09

Columbus OH

#2 Feb 25, 2013
I am not sure how any GLBT individual could be Roman Catholic. They are clearly not welcome. I too am Lutheran and am very glad that I attend a congregation that welcomes me with open arms.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#3 Feb 25, 2013
nealcmh wrote:
I am not sure how any GLBT individual could be Roman Catholic. They are clearly not welcome. I too am Lutheran and am very glad that I attend a congregation that welcomes me with open arms.
ELCA ?

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#5 Feb 25, 2013
The pope's homophobia is similar to that of Protestant pigs like Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Fred Phelps, Ted Haggard... Catholic or Protestant, it doesn't make any difference; they're both christian cults, just fighting over which of them has the better version of the same fairy tale.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#7 Feb 25, 2013
GoldenGator wrote:
The pope's homophobia is similar to that of Protestant pigs like Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Fred Phelps, Ted Haggard... Catholic or Protestant, it doesn't make any difference; they're both christian cults, just fighting over which of them has the better version of the same fairy tale.
There are significant differences between Protestant churches & the RCC.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#11 Feb 26, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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There are significant differences between Protestant churches & the RCC.
and orthodoxy

Since: Mar 07

The entire US of A

#12 Feb 26, 2013
nealcmh wrote:
I am not sure how any GLBT individual could be Roman Catholic. They are clearly not welcome. I too am Lutheran and am very glad that I attend a congregation that welcomes me with open arms.
Being Catholic is different, in some ways. It's not simply a religious belief someone chooses, for most it's more of a culture that one is born to.

So, that makes it hard to leave, even when one is not welcome.

And, to make it a bit less clear, individual churches often treat their gay congregants in a completely different way than the Pope seems to promote.

To leave is less like leaving one denomination for another, but more like leaving your small town, and your family.

It's done, but it's just not easy for many people.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#13 Feb 26, 2013
Excellently put.
Larry

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#14 Feb 26, 2013
Popes John Paul 2 and Benedict 16 both walked the talk and done much good.Popes love homosexual people but not the same sex-sex act due to Jesus Christ informing marriage is but for one man and one woman plus Saint Paul informed Same sex-sex is not natural and is unGodly.Many homosexual activists both gay and lesbian have a mean streak in them concerning their actions against the Roman Catholic Church.Actually the offical Roman Catholic Church teaching on homosexuality is that homosexual people are to be respected but same sex-sex is a sin.It's homosexual priests behaving badly by sexually abusing boys,unfortunately it's homosexuals who are mostly messing up the Roman Catholic Church in the last 50 years.Fortunately most priests don't sexually abuse people!.Both Pope John Paul 2 and Pope Benedict 16 have put in much efforts to stop the sex abuses.Hey,im not Roman Catholic am a Lutheran but still i respect both Pope John Paul 2 and Pope Benedict 16-is interesting who the next Pope will be!!.A Pope is to be highly spiritual,holy plus smart and wise with strong faith in Jesus Christ.
QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#15 Feb 27, 2013
12:42 pm, Wednesday, February 27, 2013:
RE: With Resignation of Pope, LGBTs Hope for True Dialogue on Rights
..... Many so-called "Christianities" were invented after Jesus was crucified, and the next pope very likely will follow the church's tradition which is different from what Jesus wanted of his followers.
..... But any belief system whose members paid a lot of money to clergy for centuries can't be all that bad. Members obviously are satisfied that they got proper value for their money.
..... Are members supposed to do what the church leaders want, or is it the other way - that the church leaders should do what the members want?

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

St. Louis, MO

#16 Feb 27, 2013
QUITTNER wrote:
12:42 pm, Wednesday, February 27, 2013:
RE: With Resignation of Pope, LGBTs Hope for True Dialogue on Rights
..... Many so-called "Christianities" were invented after Jesus was crucified, and the next pope very likely will follow the church's tradition which is different from what Jesus wanted of his followers.
..... But any belief system whose members paid a lot of money to clergy for centuries can't be all that bad. Members obviously are satisfied that they got proper value for their money.
..... Are members supposed to do what the church leaders want, or is it the other way - that the church leaders should do what the members want?
I don't think your question has any great validity. It seems the members of the Catholic Church do pretty much what they want, for instance abortion and birth control. I believe surveys have shown that most Catholic women use/have used birth control in one way or another. It doesn't prevent them from being a member of the Catholic Church. And there are any number of Catholic Priests who practice homosexuality. I know from personal experience. And yet they are still Priests. And since the number of Catholics is falling, except on the African continent, it would seem the Church leaders should be adapting their views. Either way, I don't care, being I am not Catholic.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#17 Feb 27, 2013
QUITTNER wrote:
12:42 pm, Wednesday, February 27, 2013:
RE: With Resignation of Pope, LGBTs Hope for True Dialogue on Rights
..... Many so-called "Christianities" were invented after Jesus was crucified, and the next pope very likely will follow the church's tradition which is different from what Jesus wanted of his followers.
..... But any belief system whose members paid a lot of money to clergy for centuries can't be all that bad. Members obviously are satisfied that they got proper value for their money.
..... Are members supposed to do what the church leaders want, or is it the other way - that the church leaders should do what the members want?
Regarding your last question, it depends if you're Protestant or Roman Catholic.:)
QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#18 Feb 27, 2013
1:27 pm, Wednesday, February 27, 2013:
RE: With Resignation of Pope, LGBTs Hope for True Dialogue on Rights
..... Probably the right answer is: All members including the leadership of any "Christianity" should have a lifestyle similar to the one by Jesus, and they should all follow the teachings only by Jesus, ignoring those of others.
Larry

Port Coquitlam, Canada

#19 Feb 27, 2013
The Church duty is to teach and inform the truth concerning morals and faith even if the majority of people disagree.If the Church went by society's values,morals and faith would be constantly changing.The Church is not here for a popularity contest but to follow the will of Jesus Christ for Jesus Christ started the Church.Jesus Christ walked the talk fully-He also fed the poor,heald the sick,forgived people,loved all people,removed harsh acts upon people and was crucified due to His love for the human race then three days later He came back to life,just before He left this earth He said He would return and give His followers paradise.{Read the award winning book-The Case For Christ by Lee Strobel.This book has a dozen top world scholars all with earned Ph.d's-degrees in science,history,physchology,th eology and archeology they give real information informing the Biblical Jesus Christ is real}.

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#20 Feb 27, 2013
RalphB wrote:
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I don't think your question has any great validity. It seems the members of the Catholic Church do pretty much what they want, for instance abortion and birth control. I believe surveys have shown that most Catholic women use/have used birth control in one way or another. It doesn't prevent them from being a member of the Catholic Church. And there are any number of Catholic Priests who practice homosexuality. I know from personal experience. And yet they are still Priests. And since the number of Catholics is falling, except on the African continent, it would seem the Church leaders should be adapting their views. Either way, I don't care, being I am not Catholic.
Good post - most Catholics I know are indeed using some form of birth control.

I don't think there will ever be a pope who is not adamantly against homosexuality, because if they ever admitted they were wrong about it they'd leave themselves open to "what else could they be wrong about?", and that would fall prey to a ton of questions, making people realize that the RCC is NOT the one, true religion and doesn't have the "fullness of truth". Then the whole religion would come crashing down. They'll elect another pope who, like all the others, has caveman mentality and whose mind quit thinking many years ago. And Ratzi claims God told him to resign? How did God do that? Registered letter, email, angel visitation, cell phone? Honestly, things with the RCC get weirder and weirder....

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