The Catholic Church's angry Christmas

Dec 27, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Salon

For the holidays this year, the Catholic Church chose to give the world the gift of bizarre, alienating and utterly missing the point rhetoric.

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“And the Horse You Rode in On”

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What a bunch of Satanic feminist garbage! Read a Bible ignorant one!
The bible is a bunch of misogynistic garbage authored by men to justify their idiocy..

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I have plenty of self esteem.
To have low self esteem a woman would be a member of a male misogynistic phallic worshipping corporation called The Roman Catholic Church. I am certainly not a member of that "boys club"!
Morgana 9- Paul is a total nutcase. And pretty dumb. Don't let him get to you - he doesn't know anything.
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What a bunch of Satanic feminist garbage! Read a Bible ignorant one!
I don't think so, pal, since I consider the regressive religionists like YOU to be the IGNORANT ones. What I have read of the bible (many years ago), I discarded as NONSENSE.

Why anyone, particularly women, would WANT to live their lives by that faith-based book of fiction is beyond me. Thank goodness I don't have to.

As I said before, the Catholic Church seems very angry that more people are REJECTING it and its regressive doctrines regarding women and reproduction. Too bleeping bad for the RCC hierarchy. The way I see it, any church that treats women as second-class citizens and nothing more than baby producers "for god and church" doesn't deserve acceptance. Such a church deserves REJECTION, along with utter contempt. Rejection and contempt are ALL the Catholic Church will get from me, because I feel that is all it will ever deserve.

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I don't think so, pal, since I consider the regressive religionists like YOU to be the IGNORANT ones. What I have read of the bible (many years ago), I discarded as NONSENSE.
Why anyone, particularly women, would WANT to live their lives by that faith-based book of fiction is beyond me. Thank goodness I don't have to.
As I said before, the Catholic Church seems very angry that more people are REJECTING it and its regressive doctrines regarding women and reproduction. Too bleeping bad for the RCC hierarchy. The way I see it, any church that treats women as second-class citizens and nothing more than baby producers "for god and church" doesn't deserve acceptance. Such a church deserves REJECTION, along with utter contempt. Rejection and contempt are ALL the Catholic Church will get from me, because I feel that is all it will ever deserve.
You see through the evil RCC as a lot of people are doing now. You are so sensible and so right! I think that religion did me a lot of harm. I'm still recovering.
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...I'S...OKAY...The Church ..''love's''...Christams.here. ..Happy New Year....eh...(+)...GOD Bless...
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Sherlayne wrote:
You see through the evil RCC as a lot of people are doing now. You are so sensible and so right! I think that religion did me a lot of harm. I'm still recovering.
Thanks, Sherlayne. I think this toxic church has done a great deal of harm, especially to women, for 2000 years. I would love to see the day this church has to close because a huge majority of the world population REJECTED it and refused to give it any more money to operate.

Although I probably won't see that happen in my lifetime, at least I know that a huge number of people HAVE rejected it and that others will do the same. I can be content with that.:-)

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Thanks, Sherlayne. I think this toxic church has done a great deal of harm, especially to women, for 2000 years. I would love to see the day this church has to close because a huge majority of the world population REJECTED it and refused to give it any more money to operate.
Although I probably won't see that happen in my lifetime, at least I know that a huge number of people HAVE rejected it and that others will do the same. I can be content with that.:-)
I feel exactly as you do.

Sorry it took me so long to respond, I was in the hosp. again and I'm sure there are many "religious" people here who would love to murder me "in the name of the Lord". And - they would justify it!

I also agree we won't see this happen in our lifetimes, but people are becoming too educated to believe most of the RCC's quackery. It's imploding, and deserves to! I'm not at all against religion but I want TRUISM.
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I feel exactly as you do.
Sorry it took me so long to respond, I was in the hosp. again and I'm sure there are many "religious" people here who would love to murder me "in the name of the Lord". And - they would justify it!
I also agree we won't see this happen in our lifetimes, but people are becoming too educated to believe most of the RCC's quackery. It's imploding, and deserves to! I'm not at all against religion but I want TRUISM.
You want "TRUISM"?

You want "a claim that is so obvious or self-evident as to be hardly worth mentioning"?

What was that you were saying about "people becoming too educated"?

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You want "TRUISM"?
You want "a claim that is so obvious or self-evident as to be hardly worth mentioning"?
What was that you were saying about "people becoming too educated"?
Circumstantial evidence, thank you.

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You want "TRUISM"?
You want "a claim that is so obvious or self-evident as to be hardly worth mentioning"?
What was that you were saying about "people becoming too educated"?
Hey - you wanna stay with superstition and ignorance, have fun :)
I'll come back later in the hopes that a realist or two stops by.
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I find it amusing on so many levels that those who have never had or had and have rejected all that the Catholic Church teaches and holds dear have this deep seated need to come to these threads and boast of it. Some over and over again as new threads open up. Is it the fact that these people are faceless and nameless? Do they really need to justify to themselves how right they are on a regular basis? Can it be they really believe that a Catholic reading their rants will be somehow swayed to their way of thinking?
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I find it amusing on so many levels that those who have never had or had and have rejected all that the Catholic Church teaches and holds dear have this deep seated need to come to these threads and boast of it. Some over and over again as new threads open up. Is it the fact that these people are faceless and nameless? Do they really need to justify to themselves how right they are on a regular basis? Can it be they really believe that a Catholic reading their rants will be somehow swayed to their way of thinking?
I can only speak for myself, not anyone else. As a person who had the toxic beliefs and doctrines of the Catholic Church forced on me as a child, I was delighted to finally kick all of its toxic baggage to the curb when at last I reached adulthood. I haven't regretted that decision for one minute, and that was over 20 years ago.

Personally, I post because I think it's important to tell folks that they can reject these regressive doctrines too, especially stuff like "birth control is a sin" and other such nonsense. In the United States, at least, people can reject your toxic institution with NO penalties whatsoever. For catholic fanatics who probably long for the days when people could be tortured and murdered for so-called "heresy," that's gotta burn.
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I can only speak for myself, not anyone else. As a person who had the toxic beliefs and doctrines of the Catholic Church forced on me as a child, I was delighted to finally kick all of its toxic baggage to the curb when at last I reached adulthood. I haven't regretted that decision for one minute, and that was over 20 years ago.
Personally, I post because I think it's important to tell folks that they can reject these regressive doctrines too, especially stuff like "birth control is a sin" and other such nonsense. In the United States, at least, people can reject your toxic institution with NO penalties whatsoever. For catholic fanatics who probably long for the days when people could be tortured and murdered for so-called "heresy," that's gotta burn.
Ocean-
Who receives "penalties" and where do they receive them for leaving the Catholic Church today?
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Hey - you wanna stay with superstition and ignorance, have fun :)
I'll come back later in the hopes that a realist or two stops by.
Do realists want "TRUISM" also?

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I find it amusing on so many levels that those who have never had or had and have rejected all that the Catholic Church teaches and holds dear have this deep seated need to come to these threads and boast of it. Some over and over again as new threads open up. Is it the fact that these people are faceless and nameless? Do they really need to justify to themselves how right they are on a regular basis? Can it be they really believe that a Catholic reading their rants will be somehow swayed to their way of thinking?
Pax, good point, but it works the other way also. All the preaching in the world is not going to persuade some of us from thinking as others might want us to. I do keep an open mind, but I can't bring myself to take seriously some outright absurdities. You yourself are not homophobic and therefore it shows you also have an open mind. You seem to have an abundance of charity towards all in your heart and I think that's far more important than judging some by their sexual orientation. That's why I always pay close attention to your posts and will always at least seriously consider your viewpoints. You don't push people away as many of the know-it-all unyielding here do. Your attitude brings people together, unlike the others who keep people apart.

Hope you have a good day :)
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Pax, good point, but it works the other way also. All the preaching in the world is not going to persuade some of us from thinking as others might want us to. I do keep an open mind, but I can't bring myself to take seriously some outright absurdities. You yourself are not homophobic and therefore it shows you also have an open mind. You seem to have an abundance of charity towards all in your heart and I think that's far more important than judging some by their sexual orientation. That's why I always pay close attention to your posts and will always at least seriously consider your viewpoints. You don't push people away as many of the know-it-all unyielding here do. Your attitude brings people together, unlike the others who keep people apart.
Hope you have a good day :)
"I do keep an open mind..."

Really? I read earlier where you attributed by beliefs to "superstition and ignorance".

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You want "TRUISM"?
You want "a claim that is so obvious or self-evident as to be hardly worth mentioning"?
What was that you were saying about "people becoming too educated"?
I stick to what I said, or meant, and that the RCC does NOT contain "all truth". Is that clear?
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..I's know Catholic-Church.. MANY-WOMEN ..Who are ''loved'',here....eh...yada u u..(+)...yada u u..LOV'yha...eh..

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Pax et Bonum wrote:
I find it amusing on so many levels that those who have never had or had and have rejected all that the Catholic Church teaches and holds dear have this deep seated need to come to these threads and boast of it. Some over and over again as new threads open up. Is it the fact that these people are faceless and nameless? Do they really need to justify to themselves how right they are on a regular basis? Can it be they really believe that a Catholic reading their rants will be somehow swayed to their way of thinking?
There's a book called "something...for Recovering Catholics" - honest - look it up, written by and about the RCC.

I mainly come here to find out WHY the church teaches so erroneously (and I don't think they do it on purpose) and how so much of what I was taught as a kid is simply not true.
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I can only speak for myself, not anyone else. As a person who had the toxic beliefs and doctrines of the Catholic Church forced on me as a child, I was delighted to finally kick all of its toxic baggage to the curb when at last I reached adulthood. I haven't regretted that decision for one minute, and that was over 20 years ago.
Personally, I post because I think it's important to tell folks that they can reject these regressive doctrines too, especially stuff like "birth control is a sin" and other such nonsense. In the United States, at least, people can reject your toxic institution with NO penalties whatsoever. For catholic fanatics who probably long for the days when people could be tortured and murdered for so-called "heresy," that's gotta burn.
What you consider "toxic" is the life blood of faithful living for others. That you have to go back centuries to find the torturing of heretics to prove your point shows how little of what you know of the Churtch of today. Again disagree all you will but you are easily dismissed by the tone of your posts.

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