The disgrace of papal blessing for Ugandan homophobia | Jill Filipovic

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idi amin dada

Warwick, RI

#68 Jan 6, 2013
Why wasn't I notified of this great blessing from my nazi pope? Amin wants to know.

His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea, and Conqueror of the British Empire, in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular

Since: Mar 09

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#69 Jan 6, 2013
HuskerDu wrote:
<quoted text> You are wrong.
Nope.

We can start here:

http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13827-...
http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10122-...

The "Jude", along with "2Peter", uses writing sources that were themselves declared to be outside the Canon by both Jewish and Xian compilers. Origen, a major churchman responsible in part for establishing the Canon, pointed to two apocryphal and pseudepigrapic sources for the perspective expressed in "Jude": "The Assumption of Moses" and "The Book of Enoch".

"The Book of Enoch" is part of the Qumran documents (Dead Sea Scrolls), and scholars date it's composition to around 300BC.

"Jude" quotes "2Peter" AND refers to it in the past tense, so it is reasonable to conclude that it, "Jude", was composed after "2Peter".

"2Peter" is a pseudepigraphic work of compilation and addition over a period of 100 years. It's linguistic character, radically different from "1Peter", as well as concerns expressed, reference events AFTER the ostensible execution of the purported author. IT is almost certainly of Gentile origin.
HuskerDu

Muscotah, KS

#70 Jan 6, 2013
snyper wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
We can start here:
http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13827-...
http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10122-...
The "Jude", along with "2Peter", uses writing sources that were themselves declared to be outside the Canon by both Jewish and Xian compilers. Origen, a major churchman responsible in part for establishing the Canon, pointed to two apocryphal and pseudepigrapic sources for the perspective expressed in "Jude": "The Assumption of Moses" and "The Book of Enoch".
"The Book of Enoch" is part of the Qumran documents (Dead Sea Scrolls), and scholars date it's composition to around 300BC.
"Jude" quotes "2Peter" AND refers to it in the past tense, so it is reasonable to conclude that it, "Jude", was composed after "2Peter".
"2Peter" is a pseudepigraphic work of compilation and addition over a period of 100 years. It's linguistic character, radically different from "1Peter", as well as concerns expressed, reference events AFTER the ostensible execution of the purported author. IT is almost certainly of Gentile origin.
LOL....learn how to spell....learn how to quote from the bible. Why not read the bible... Quit watching the Discovery channel, K?

Since: Mar 09

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#71 Jan 6, 2013
HuskerDu wrote:
<quoted text>LOL....learn how to spell....learn how to quote from the bible. Why not read the bible... Quit watching the Discovery channel, K?
What did I misspell?

I'm very familiar with all the early texts in their original languages.

Once it's memorized, why keep reading it? That's just bad time allocation.

I don't watch broadcast television, though I try to view one documentary per day. It's part of doing my daily "brain-ups".

Perhaps you should try it.
Ocean56

AOL

#73 Jan 7, 2013
HuskerDu wrote:
Shows that the writer wanted to spread hatred by making up stories. I see it all the time now, all over the media suckers like bitler and others eat it up like candy. These people persecute the Church for what she stands for, not supporting birth control, abortion and gay marriage. When the pagans persecuted the Christians in ancient times they put Christians to death for their belief in Christ and following a Christian life, which meant not supporting immoral lifestyles.
Funny that you managed to leave out the ugly parts of the Catholic Church history that TORTURED and MURDERED people for so-called "heresy" in past centuries, Knutter.

I guess you would prefer that everyone forget the church-based TERRORISM campaigns, such as the Inquisition and Malleus Maleficarum, wouldn't you. Too bad for you, that isn't going to happen.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#74 Jan 7, 2013
HuskerDu wrote:
<quoted text>LOL....learn how to spell....learn how to quote from the bible. Why not read the bible... Quit watching the Discovery channel, K?
There is room a-plenty for both
.
The pre-1952 bible presents timeless stories of human interest from ancient times
.
The post-1952 discovery channel presents the full-spectrum timeline of world history and scientific discovery
Husker Du

Muscotah, KS

#75 Jan 7, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Yeah?? WHO in their "right mind" cares about a book written by men to justify the laws "they" set in place????? justify this if you can:
Leviticus 19:20-22
And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; SHE shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because SHE was not free. 21 And HE shall bring his trespass offering unto the LORD, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, even a ram for a TRESPASS offering. 22 And the priest shall make an atonement for HIM with the ram of the TRESPASS offering before the LORD for HIS sin which HE hath done: and the sin which HE hath done shall be forgiven him.
85% of the population believes in the bible. DEAL with it.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#76 Jan 7, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>85% of the population believes in the bible. DEAL with it.
No ma'am
.
21.01% Muslim
13.26% Hindus
5.84% Buddhists
12.48% other religions
14.09% non religious
33.32% Christians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World-relig...
Husker Du

Muscotah, KS

#77 Jan 7, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
No ma'am
.
21.01% Muslim
13.26% Hindus
5.84% Buddhists
12.48% other religions
14.09% non religious
33.32% Christians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World-relig...
You shpw world wide , I was posting about the U.S. 80% believe in Christ.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#78 Jan 7, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>85% of the population believes in the bible. DEAL with it.
BS, they might pretend to, but a majority question it and certainly DO NOT want to live by biblical law. Refresh my memory, how many catholic women have taken the pill??? See how serious they take the BS??
HuskerDu

Muscotah, KS

#79 Jan 7, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
BS, they might pretend to, but a majority question it and certainly DO NOT want to live by biblical law. Refresh my memory, how many catholic women have taken the pill??? See how serious they take the BS??
Again, this isn't about birth control but religious freedom. Doesn't matter how many women take the pill, its what the Catholic Church teaches and has the right to teach.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#80 Jan 7, 2013
HuskerDu wrote:
<quoted text>Again, this isn't about birth control but religious freedom. Doesn't matter how many women take the pill, its what the Catholic Church teaches and has the right to teach.
They can teach it, but they cannot enforce it by law. They can teach hatred of women, they just cannot enforce it. bummer huh?
HuskerDu

Muscotah, KS

#81 Jan 7, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
They can teach it, but they cannot enforce it by law. They can teach hatred of women, they just cannot enforce it. bummer huh?
Go find your nurse,she has your meds.

Since: Mar 09

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#82 Jan 7, 2013
Husker Du wrote:
<quoted text>85% of the population believes in the bible. DEAL with it.
Pity that salvation doesn't comne from belief in an anthology of old writings. I mean ... what ARE they? Muslims?

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#83 Jan 8, 2013
HuskerDu wrote:
<quoted text> Go find your nurse,she has your meds.
Go find your priest, he has your brains on lockdown.

“Dan IS the Man”

Since: May 12

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#84 Jan 8, 2013
HuskerDu wrote:
<quoted text> Go find your nurse,she has your meds.
She's right, and this response of yours shows that you couldn't refute it.
Ocean56

AOL

#85 Jan 9, 2013
HuskerDu wrote:
Again, this isn't about birth control but religious freedom. Doesn't matter how many women take the pill, its what the Catholic Church teaches and has the right to teach.
True; the Catholic Church has the right to teach all the stupid beliefs and doctrines it wants.

But guess what, Knutter, we have the same right to CALL such beliefs and doctrines stupid. And the Church can no longer torture and murder people for so-called "heresy" as it used to a few centuries ago. That's probably why many people have REJECTED the Church and all of its toxic doctrines; we don't have to worry about church-based terrorism any longer.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#86 Jan 9, 2013
The whole article was the author knocking down a straw man-the Pope didn't bless Kadaga.

The Church obviously hasn't witheld its resources from charitable work, so one can only assume that the author simply wanted to take some swings at the Church, facts be damned.

" Editor's note: "The disgrace of Church backing for Ugandan homophobia" was amended because the original headline "The disgrace of papal blessing for Ugandan homophobia" and the text incorrectly suggested that the Ugandan parliamentary speaker, Rebecca Kadaga, had received a private audience with the pope and a blessing. Ms Kadaga was part of a delegation from Uganda which attended a public audience to greet the pope. The article was amended at 10am ET on 4 January 2013"
Dan

Omaha, NE

#87 Jan 9, 2013
Long Night Moon 13 wrote:
<quoted text>
She's right, and this response of yours shows that you couldn't refute it.
Isn't it up to Morgana to support her claim first(i.e. the Church hates women)?

I don't think her simply stating it makes it fact.

Since: Mar 09

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#88 Jan 9, 2013
Dan wrote:
The whole article was the author knocking down a straw man-the Pope didn't bless Kadaga.
The Church obviously hasn't witheld its resources from charitable work, so one can only assume that the author simply wanted to take some swings at the Church, facts be damned.
" Editor's note: "The disgrace of Church backing for Ugandan homophobia" was amended because the original headline "The disgrace of papal blessing for Ugandan homophobia" and the text incorrectly suggested that the Ugandan parliamentary speaker, Rebecca Kadaga, had received a private audience with the pope and a blessing. Ms Kadaga was part of a delegation from Uganda which attended a public audience to greet the pope. The article was amended at 10am ET on 4 January 2013"
He should have refused to receive them.

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