Chris Matthews Interview With Cardinal Bergoglio (Pope Francis) That Will NEVER Air

Apr 20, 2013 Full story: DFW Catholic 16

The following is a transcript of an interview between, Chris Matthews of MSNBC, an American Journalist and the then, Cardinal Bergoglio.

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Ameribelg

Antwerpen, Belgium

#1 Apr 21, 2013
This is an apparent hoax.

See Snopes article on subject
Ameribelg

Antwerpen, Belgium

#2 Apr 21, 2013
Whitney

Chicago, IL

#3 Apr 21, 2013
Clearly this is a hoax
Pauline

Nassau, Bahamas

#4 Apr 23, 2013
A HOAX.......not necessarily because SNOPES says it's false. SNOPES is part of the liberally biased media funded by Soros and the 'owners,' man and wife are mega liberals. I would research this further before I wrote it off a a hoax.
Pope Francis

San Francisco, CA

#5 Apr 23, 2013
this is hilarious...."low information voters" is an interesting phrase for an Argentine who can't speak English to use. Hm, I'm surprised he didn't go with "libtard." In all seriousness though, whatever Limbaugh devotee wrote this knows little about the new pope (who is a vehement critic of capitalism) or the theology of the Catholic Church. The author of this diatribe apparently thinks Pope Francis never heard of Rerum Novarum!
Pope Francis

San Francisco, CA

#6 Apr 23, 2013
Pauline, I'd hate to prevent you from automatically ignoring any evidence that comes from a liberal, but about five minutes of Francis' bio page will tell you that this is a hoax. The teaching of the Catholic Church from papal encyclicals is that capitalism and socialism are about equally flawed and are only acceptable when tempered with social justice and civic freedom. No Pope would call himself a reactionary, or say that government assistance to the poor is wrong, or that capital is the ultimate good, or basically any of the other things in this screed.
Mike

Russell, KY

#7 Apr 30, 2013
Pauline's comments about Snopes is false. See here:
http://www.snopes.com/info/aboutus.asp
And also see what Factcheck says about snopes.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/
CarlosHelms

United States

#8 May 1, 2013
Kind of "familiar" for a guy who doesn't speak English; but these Popes tend to be pretty smart guys.

If the good Cardinal (now Pope Francis) doesn't want to take credit for it; I'd be happy to. Other than the Canon Law and encyclical stuff, it reflects my views to a "T." Capitalism isn't "bad;" greed is. Socialism and its rotten big brother, communism, are institutionalized injustice.
RWRyley

Jackson, NJ

#9 May 3, 2013
You have to be a complete idiot or a very low, low information person to think this is real.

First of all I have seen three versions of this one in which the sender referred to Chris Matthews as working for CNN which is totally untrue. One version refers to Matthews as an "atheist" which is also totally untrue. As is another version that refers to him as a socialist.

Matthews throughout his career has repeatedly mentioned his Catholic roots and that despite some disagreements with his church he remains a proud and practicing Catholic.

Even if a person is not a Catholic they should recognize that none of the so-called interview reads like anything an educated man - especially a Cardinal in the Catholic church - would say.

Do you really believe that a priest - any priest - in response to issues of the poor and poverty would say "There is nothing the Church can do except try to educate people to become good consumers." Since when did the Catholic Church become the "Savvy Shoppers Network."

If you believe this fraud you are beyond help. The best thing you could do is read writings of numerous popes in defense of the rights of labor and working people. The Church's position on subjects like abortion, birth control and gay marriage is something the right in American politics supports and tries to exploit.

But, the same people absolutely hate the Church's - and the various Pope's - teachings on social justice and economic democracy. The language in this so-called interview is fake pure and simple. Please don't be fooled.
ajgiii

Burke, VA

#10 May 4, 2013
Pauline's comments are very accurate, and it is only those who are part of the Socialist movement who blindly accept Snopes' interpretations of anything.

There's no factual reference in the Snopes write-up, only their opinion. And, referencing another website, or two, that say Snopes is an accurate source does NOTHING to validate their OPINION on this issue.

What you folks can't stand is a person who has the correct focus on the world lay waste to a corrupt journalist.

Something that lends credence to the interview is how then Card B says the Church isn't a political entity. A bit of propoganda the Church (any church) would want people to believe. The Church has been meddling in politics for centuries...and not with positive effects (IMO).

Look for the truth without your bias. It's not easy, but that should be your effort.
Pope Francis

San Francisco, CA

#11 May 4, 2013
Maybe I'm blinded by my slavish obedience to the socialist movement, but I don't think Snopes is expressing opinion but fact when it points out that the sole source for the "transcript" already pulled it and admitted on Twitter that it was unsubstantiated. Is it an opinion that Chris Matthews praised the new pope on his show, something that casts considerable doubt on the idea of him recently conducting an extremely hostile interview? No, because there's a video of it.

Ajgii, just because facts make you uncomfortable doesn't mean they're opinions and not facts. Instead of blindly rejecting any evidence that comes from a source that you don't like, take your own advice and look for the truth. Research the teachings of the Catholic Church and the philosophy and history of Francis, and it will become clear to you that this "interview" is laughable.
JustDFacts

Boca Raton, FL

#12 May 12, 2013
Even if the interview is fake, the fake Cardinal is right and that is what some hate and thus want to kill the fake messenger's fake source. Truth hurts!
Go fake Cardinal!
Cosette

Astoria, OR

#13 May 14, 2013
ajgiii wrote:
Pauline's comments are very accurate, and it is only those who are part of the Socialist movement who blindly accept Snopes' interpretations of anything.
There's no factual reference in the Snopes write-up, only their opinion. And, referencing another website, or two, that say Snopes is an accurate source does NOTHING to validate their OPINION on this issue.
What you folks can't stand is a person who has the correct focus on the world lay waste to a corrupt journalist.
Something that lends credence to the interview is how then Card B says the Church isn't a political entity. A bit of propoganda the Church (any church) would want people to believe. The Church has been meddling in politics for centuries...and not with positive effects (IMO).
Look for the truth without your bias. It's not easy, but that should be your effort.
Even Catholic Answers says this appears to be false. Do a Google search "did Chris Matthews interview Cardinal Bergoglio".
marive67

Delray Beach, FL

#14 May 23, 2013
What I read in the email was so true and a must to be applied from A to Z,that the only one who can solve the mystery will be the pope "Francis I" himself.I would also say that the person who originated the whole email is a smart,articulate and witty person regarding his ideas about poverty and how to redesign our view of the "most popular" ideas and the politics that create only hatred and constantly feed the greed of selfish manipulators while oppressing self development,charity,creativity ,and mostly the free will of the human race.
Clete Larrabee

Sterrett, AL

#15 Jun 5, 2013
Mike wrote:
Pauline's comments about Snopes is false. See here:
http://www.snopes.com/info/aboutus.asp
And also see what Factcheck says about snopes.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/
Sure, we use the source's writeup to prove that the website hasn't an agenda. Sounds to me like the SS holding a flag of truce. Neither convince an intelligent person.
Marge

South River, NJ

#16 Aug 6, 2013
Papal infallibility 101; the Church teaches that a pope is infallible ONLY in matters of faith and morals. He is certainly capable of error AND of sin. The good then Cardinal Bergoglio would most certainly NEVER have said such a ridiculous thing. Someone who doesn't understand basic teaching on Ex cathedra statements could have written such nonsense.

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