Like sheep to the slaughter

Jan 5, 2014 Full story: Buenos Aires Herald 15

The biggest problem facing Pope Francis, n Jorge Bergoglio, is not abortion, ecclesiastical paedophilia, homosexual rights, capitalist savagery or the no doubt sinister activities of conservative clerics who are conspiring against him in the Vatican corridors.

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warner

Dublin, Ireland

#1 Jan 5, 2014
avoiding the biggest issue
The biggest problem facing Pope Francis, né Jorge Bergoglio, is not abortion, ecclesiastical paedophilia, homosexual rights, capitalist savagery or the no doubt sinister activities of conservative clerics who are conspiring against him in the Vatican corridors. It is what to do about the increasingly ferocious Islamic offensive against the millions of Christians who still live in the Middle East, Pakistan and North Africa. Every single day, dozens, sometimes hundreds, are brutally murdered by fanatics. But, as was the case when the holocaust took place in Europe, most Westerners prefer to look the other way. Genocide is less newsworthy than the self-indulgent antics of a stoned pop star and, in any case, it would be wrong to get upset about the treatment of members of one particular religious minority when so many others are suffering an equally grisly fate.
Francis does not like what is happening. He wants everybody to live in peace and harmony. He says he is saddened when Middle Eastern and Nigerian churchmen tell him that their flocks are being slaughtered by holy warriors who, to justify their atrocities, say they are simply obeying Allah’s orders and can quote chapter and verse from the Koran to prove it.
This puts Francis in an awkward position. Like all other Western leaders, he prefers to blame such horrors on abstractions such as violence, persecution, intolerance and terror. As his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, soon found out, suggesting that Islam might have something to do with mass murder is simply unacceptable in today’s enlightened world. It is far better to tell oneself that the killers do not represent “true Islam”, that they have hijacked an exceptionally pacific religion. History may tell them otherwise, but after the Second World War mankind — whoops, humankind — turned over a new leaf.
QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#2 Jan 6, 2014
5:03 am, Monday, January 6, 2014:
RE: Like sheep to the slaughter
..... All of the sheep are supposed to follow their shepherds. But Christian shepherds are all supposed to follow Jesus' lifestyle and teachings, ignoring all of the so-called "Christianities" that were invented after Jesus had been crucified.
warner

Ireland

#3 Jan 6, 2014
QUITTNER wrote:
5:03 am, Monday, January 6, 2014:
RE: Like sheep to the slaughter
..... All of the sheep are supposed to follow their shepherds. But Christian shepherds are all supposed to follow Jesus' lifestyle and teachings, ignoring all of the so-called "Christianities" that were invented after Jesus had been crucified.
Nothing has been invented since the crucifixion of Jesus except your Islamic accusations. It is not your business what goes on in a Christian Church so mind your own business.

If Mohammed had told Muslims they were to have sex only once a month, you people, would demand to know from people of a different religion how many times they have sex and condemn them for not sticking to the Islamic teachings! You are intrusive and rude and you need to mind your own business. Your own pulpit has the demon voice emanating from it, in its hatred of people who are not Muslims, so you need to focus on that point and mind your own business about matters that don't concern you!
QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#4 Jan 6, 2014
2 pm, Monday, January 6, 2014
RE: Like sheep to the slaughter
..... Obviously warner is not a Christian because he doesn't recognise the difference between the teachings of Jesus and those of the invented so-called "Christianities".
..... Only those are Christians who follow the lifestyle of Jesus and his teachings, ignoring all others.
True Christian witness

Fountain Hills, AZ

#5 Jan 6, 2014
True Christians obey the Law of Christ, the commandments Jesus instructed his followers to obey, Jesus replaced the Law of Moses with just a very few, but critical instructions.
Matthew22:37-39
John 3:36

Catholics put their faith in their religion and the Pope, not God's word their Catholic Bible.
warner

Edinburgh, UK

#6 Jan 6, 2014
QUITTNER wrote:
2 pm, Monday, January 6, 2014
RE: Like sheep to the slaughter
..... Obviously warner is not a Christian because he doesn't recognise the difference between the teachings of Jesus and those of the invented so-called "Christianities".
..... Only those are Christians who follow the lifestyle of Jesus and his teachings, ignoring all others.
Well, l follow the lifestyle of Jesus as l obey his commandments. Jesus does not require me to wear a white robe and sandals all year round! There are no such people as Christianites and this is another Islamic invented word. People can wear white robes and sandals if they wish, but if they follow God's commandments then they are his disciples. So, what lifestyle are you talking about? How dare you anyway, tell me that l don't follow the teachings of Jesus. It is you who is the Muslim that follows the teachings of Mohammad that does not follow Jesus or his commandments.
warner

Edinburgh, UK

#7 Jan 6, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
True Christians obey the Law of Christ, the commandments Jesus instructed his followers to obey, Jesus replaced the Law of Moses with just a very few, but critical instructions.
Matthew22:37-39
John 3:36
Catholics put their faith in their religion and the Pope, not God's word their Catholic Bible.
Muslims put their faith in their religion and Mohammad, not God s word because they have no Bible!
Gods R Delusions but Mine

Orlando, FL

#8 Jan 7, 2014
All gods are man made delusions.

The only difference between murdering Musnuts and Catholics and Protestants murdering millions of each other is... about 400 years.

The delusional fight over their delusions.

Please just kill each other fast.

Ramen
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#9 Jan 7, 2014
warner wrote:
avoiding the biggest issue
The biggest problem facing Pope Francis, né Jorge Bergoglio, is not abortion, ecclesiastical paedophilia, homosexual rights, capitalist savagery or the no doubt sinister activities of conservative clerics who are conspiring against him in the Vatican corridors. It is what to do about the increasingly ferocious Islamic offensive against the millions of Christians who still live in the Middle East, Pakistan and North Africa. Every single day, dozens, sometimes hundreds, are brutally murdered by fanatics. But, as was the case when the holocaust took place in Europe, most Westerners prefer to look the other way. Genocide is less newsworthy than the self-indulgent antics of a stoned pop star and, in any case, it would be wrong to get upset about the treatment of members of one particular religious minority when so many others are suffering an equally grisly fate.
Francis does not like what is happening. He wants everybody to live in peace and harmony. He says he is saddened when Middle Eastern and Nigerian churchmen tell him that their flocks are being slaughtered by holy warriors who, to justify their atrocities, say they are simply obeying Allah’s orders and can quote chapter and verse from the Koran to prove it.
This puts Francis in an awkward position. Like all other Western leaders, he prefers to blame such horrors on abstractions such as violence, persecution, intolerance and terror. As his predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, soon found out, suggesting that Islam might have something to do with mass murder is simply unacceptable in today’s enlightened world. It is far better to tell oneself that the killers do not represent “true Islam”, that they have hijacked an exceptionally pacific religion. History may tell them otherwise, but after the Second World War mankind — whoops, humankind — turned over a new leaf.
SalaamZ WarMer. I like the part where you mention Hijacking! LOL! Something shaytan has been doing to anything of merit and sent by Gd ,ever since his banishment to this prisoner planet. CheerZ
warner

Ireland

#10 Jan 7, 2014
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text> SalaamZ WarMer. I like the part where you mention Hijacking! LOL! Something shaytan has been doing to anything of merit and sent by Gd ,ever since his banishment to this prisoner planet. CheerZ
Yes true, Rabeen, but what are good people who are Muslim doing to stop the bad people who are determined to latch on to certain verses in the Quran to justify murdering people of a different Faith ? If Christians were doing these things, l would have plenty to say to them in way of education. People tend to look for support from others when they have a satanic agenda, they look for encouragement from their brothers, but it is rare for Muslims to alert the authorities when they hear words of aggression and sense that a particular person is turning evil.
QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#11 Jan 12, 2014
3:01 am, Sunday, January 12, 2014:
RE: Like sheep to the slaughter
..... Warner, do you never retaliate and do you forgive everybody everything?
Do you always treat others well, as you would like to be treated?
Do you live in a separated from "The World" intentional community?
Did you give all your money to the management of that community?
For examples.
warner

Edinburgh, UK

#12 Jan 12, 2014
QUITTNER wrote:
3:01 am, Sunday, January 12, 2014:
RE: Like sheep to the slaughter
..... Warner, do you never retaliate and do you forgive everybody everything?
Do you always treat others well, as you would like to be treated?
Do you live in a separated from "The World" intentional community?
Did you give all your money to the management of that community?
For examples.
Don't preach to me. I will answer your questions. I have a Holy Spirit and l never retaliate and on the whole, l do forgive, but l know that l cannot forgive everybody everything but in the main l do, and l look to God for justice for evil deeds done. God will avenge me and give me justice. I always treat everybody well to the point where I am exploited unfortunately! I treat others as l would wish to be treated. I live in the World but l am not part of the Sins of the World because l am not Worldy although l am not naive. I give money to charities and to my Church and to the poor who cross my path. I am not an idiot who will starve myself and dress in rags and not provide for myself and God does not ask me to do so. I have full understanding about what happens to people who have no money to provide for themselves. I care for myself as well as for others but if l don't care for myself then l will not be in a position to care for others! I was fortunate to survive to adulthood (my parents were not Christians), to the point where I could provide for myself! I did not live in a country where l should have been deprived and in need, but l lived in a place where l had no human love. I was given by God His love and l survived as it was sufficient. Jesus was hungry too! It does not matter where God had put me, even if l had been born to practicing Satanists, l would not be lost to God because we can triumph over all adversity!

For years, l would wake up in the morning, and for a blissful minute not know where l was and remember my circumstances. Forgive, l have forgiven, forget never, you should not preach to me!
QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#13 Jan 12, 2014
2:34 pm, Sunday, January 12, 2014:
RE: Like sheep to the slaughter
..... I only asked you some questions, I did not intend to preach. There are many who have two-way communications with God or one of the other spirits and their belief system may not at all be one of the regular religions; they no longer need them nor their literature.
..... It seems that you are a "good" person, and .I hope that God will reward you for that. Best wishes and good luck for the whole of the year 2014!
.....
By the way, do you live in Wales? When I lived and worked in Crewe, Cheshire, some of my best friends were a Welsh family.
warner

Edinburgh, UK

#14 Jan 12, 2014
QUITTNER wrote:
2:34 pm, Sunday, January 12, 2014:
RE: Like sheep to the slaughter
..... I only asked you some questions, I did not intend to preach. There are many who have two-way communications with God or one of the other spirits and their belief system may not at all be one of the regular religions; they no longer need them nor their literature.
..... It seems that you are a "good" person, and .I hope that God will reward you for that. Best wishes and good luck for the whole of the year 2014!
.....
By the way, do you live in Wales? When I lived and worked in Crewe, Cheshire, some of my best friends were a Welsh family.
Thank you for your good wishes and l hope that you have a good year too!

I don't live in Wales.
Scholar_of_PISSL AM

Stevensville, MD

#15 Jan 12, 2014
The head pedophile is too much of a coward to defend anyone, other than queer priests and lesbian nuns.

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