Pope Benedict XVI refuses to allow communion for Catholic divorcees

Jun 4, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Raw Story

Pope Benedict XVI has made an attempt to appease remarried Catholic divorcees by calling on parishes to integrate them, but he is a long way from changing the rules, Vatican watchers said Monday.

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Keep your finger on the page as you read my post ...... a Catholic living in sin IS excluded from Communion. The key word is "SIN", did you miss that part? You do realize that a divorcee has comitted a sin, yes?
A Catholic just because they are divorced does not mean they have committed a "sin". Now keep your finger on the screen as you continue to read. The "divorcee" may have been being beaten or otherwise abused by their spouse. The "divorcee" may have needed to get away from a spouse that was commiting adultry. The Church does not require someone to stay in a marriage when there is no hope of a real relationship. What the Church requires is the annulment process be completed before entering into another marriage. If this is not done then you can talk about sin.
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A Catholic just because they are divorced does not mean they have committed a "sin". Now keep your finger on the screen as you continue to read. The "divorcee" may have been being beaten or otherwise abused by their spouse. The "divorcee" may have needed to get away from a spouse that was commiting adultry. The Church does not require someone to stay in a marriage when there is no hope of a real relationship. What the Church requires is the annulment process be completed before entering into another marriage. If this is not done then you can talk about sin.
Shall I tell you how it's the Catholic church that must make that decision? Without it, the divorced are "living in sin". You didn't know that, huh?
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Shall I tell you how it's the Catholic church that must make that decision? Without it, the divorced are "living in sin". You didn't know that, huh?
The civilly "divorced" are not living in sin. The Church does not recognize a civil divorce. A civil divorce does not have the authority to look at a marrage that has broken down and find that the requirements for a sacramental marriage may not have been in place. The opposite is also true the Church does not recognize a civil marriage. Just going to the county court house for your wedding does not make it a sacramental marriage because all the requirements for that were not in place. Why don't you do some reading on the subject. Googgle it and see what you come up with.

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The civilly "divorced" are not living in sin. The Church does not recognize a civil divorce. A civil divorce does not have the authority to look at a marrage that has broken down and find that the requirements for a sacramental marriage may not have been in place. The opposite is also true the Church does not recognize a civil marriage. Just going to the county court house for your wedding does not make it a sacramental marriage because all the requirements for that were not in place. Why don't you do some reading on the subject. Googgle it and see what you come up with.
Pax, you're smart. My husband and I are going to hell because although I had my first marriage annulled, he didn't get his done, so we married anyway - by a judge.

Actually, I never really believed that, but I acknowledge that I don't make the rules and the church may well have condemned me.

I haven't officially been diagnosed, but they say the person always knows...I'm on my way out. My body is breaking down and I just "know" my days are numbered. I tell you and justachristian this because I know you're two who won't make fun of me. I'm not looking for sympathy - that wouldn't do me any good. It's just pretty much over for me and I know God doesn't want me - He never did. I don't know who else to turn to. It's really bad tonight - it's 4:41 a.m. and I haven't slept yet, too upset and crying. I've given up, I'm tired of trying to fight the inevitable. I'm terrified. Not of hell, because I think deep down that death is simply non-existence. When I was in the hospital this last time, a dear friend of mine passed from cancer. She was an online friend; we'd never met in person but I never got the chance to tell her I'd been in the hosp. for 9 days and I fear she thought I was ignoring her. I've said goodbye to her in prayer. I hope that works. Life goes by too dang fast - before you know it, it's over. Sorry to sound so morbid but I'm one to face facts, even if I don't like them. I'm sure many here will be glad to see me go but I don't care what they think. I see my husband deteriorating and it's killing me. We really have had a beautiful marriage but his heart episode has aged him about 10 years. His mental attitude is a lot better than mine. I pretty much give up. It has been a unique and wonderful experience knowing you. There's nothing more I can do. But I'll tell you this much - I will NOT go gentle into that "good night"...I'll go out kicking and screaming. I'm getting a form for a living will from my doctor; at the end I want to be put into a drug-induced coma. I found out that's legal.

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Pax, you're smart. My husband and I are going to hell because although I had my first marriage annulled, he didn't get his done, so we married anyway - by a judge.
Actually, I never really believed that, but I acknowledge that I don't make the rules and the church may well have condemned me.
I haven't officially been diagnosed, but they say the person always knows...I'm on my way out. My body is breaking down and I just "know" my days are numbered. I tell you and justachristian this because I know you're two who won't make fun of me. I'm not looking for sympathy - that wouldn't do me any good. It's just pretty much over for me and I know God doesn't want me - He never did. I don't know who else to turn to. It's really bad tonight - it's 4:41 a.m. and I haven't slept yet, too upset and crying. I've given up, I'm tired of trying to fight the inevitable. I'm terrified. Not of hell, because I think deep down that death is simply non-existence. When I was in the hospital this last time, a dear friend of mine passed from cancer. She was an online friend; we'd never met in person but I never got the chance to tell her I'd been in the hosp. for 9 days and I fear she thought I was ignoring her. I've said goodbye to her in prayer. I hope that works. Life goes by too dang fast - before you know it, it's over. Sorry to sound so morbid but I'm one to face facts, even if I don't like them. I'm sure many here will be glad to see me go but I don't care what they think. I see my husband deteriorating and it's killing me. We really have had a beautiful marriage but his heart episode has aged him about 10 years. His mental attitude is a lot better than mine. I pretty much give up. It has been a unique and wonderful experience knowing you. There's nothing more I can do. But I'll tell you this much - I will NOT go gentle into that "good night"...I'll go out kicking and screaming. I'm getting a form for a living will from my doctor; at the end I want to be put into a drug-induced coma. I found out that's legal.
Sherlayne:

I am glad you know I will never make fun of you, because I will not.
I am so sorry your husband is worsening.
It is an extremely difficult time to have to witness. when my parents passed on, I thought my life was over too.
But they hope and will we will carry on, and my hope for you, dear, is CARRY ON.
It is ALWAYS hard when we lose a loved one, temporary though it may be.
PLEASE, rest assured that you and your loved ones will ALL meet again in Heaven.
May Dad passed in 1973; my Mom in 1989.
time has not erased the pain, but ONE thing I keep in mind, Sherlayne ... WE WILL BE TOGETHER AGAIN.
Honestly, and sincerely, Sherlayne, if there is ANYTHING I can do to help ease your pain right now, please let me know.
God bless you, and your husband.

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Sherlayne:
I am glad you know I will never make fun of you, because I will not.
I am so sorry your husband is worsening.
It is an extremely difficult time to have to witness. when my parents passed on, I thought my life was over too.
But they hope and will we will carry on, and my hope for you, dear, is CARRY ON.
It is ALWAYS hard when we lose a loved one, temporary though it may be.
PLEASE, rest assured that you and your loved ones will ALL meet again in Heaven.
May Dad passed in 1973; my Mom in 1989.
time has not erased the pain, but ONE thing I keep in mind, Sherlayne ... WE WILL BE TOGETHER AGAIN.
Honestly, and sincerely, Sherlayne, if there is ANYTHING I can do to help ease your pain right now, please let me know.
God bless you, and your husband.
justa, you have no idea what a tremendous comfort you and Pax are to me. You both truly live your faith. I'm not saying my dear husband is "on his way out" but he is definitely VERY weak and he was always fiercely independent. He sleeps a lot and yet is active in his own way. He uses a cane, but at least he's walking better than I am and is fairly active. Unlike me, he's not afraid of anything. I consider you and Pax to be very dear friends and you give me hope whether you realize it or not. Here it is again, 3:48 a.m. and I can't sleep but I knew I'd find help here. I love you both. Peace out :)

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I disagree, and I believe Saint Paul does to.
1 Corinthians 11:27-29
Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.
There is only one 'unforgivable;'and,only one sin which 'cries out to Heaven'for judgement.I disagree with the Church's stance in this matter.

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justa, you have no idea what a tremendous comfort you and Pax are to me. You both truly live your faith. I'm not saying my dear husband is "on his way out" but he is definitely VERY weak and he was always fiercely independent. He sleeps a lot and yet is active in his own way. He uses a cane, but at least he's walking better than I am and is fairly active. Unlike me, he's not afraid of anything. I consider you and Pax to be very dear friends and you give me hope whether you realize it or not. Here it is again, 3:48 a.m. and I can't sleep but I knew I'd find help here. I love you both. Peace out :)
Take care, Sherlayne, both you and your husband. I am still keeping you in my prayers.

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Take care, Sherlayne, both you and your husband. I am still keeping you in my prayers.
I can't thank you enough. You and Pax are truly special people.

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Sherlayne:
I am glad you know I will never make fun of you, because I will not.
I am so sorry your husband is worsening.
It is an extremely difficult time to have to witness. when my parents passed on, I thought my life was over too.
But they hope and will we will carry on, and my hope for you, dear, is CARRY ON.
It is ALWAYS hard when we lose a loved one, temporary though it may be.
PLEASE, rest assured that you and your loved ones will ALL meet again in Heaven.
May Dad passed in 1973; my Mom in 1989.
time has not erased the pain, but ONE thing I keep in mind, Sherlayne ... WE WILL BE TOGETHER AGAIN.
Honestly, and sincerely, Sherlayne, if there is ANYTHING I can do to help ease your pain right now, please let me know.
God bless you, and your husband.
You ease my pain just by being here for me :)
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What's the problem?
"Divorce" is what separates Catholics from Protestants. Divorce is the basis for Protestantism in the first place. It is the reason for its creation!
So why should the Pope bless divorce in this case? After all, divorce doesn't even exist in the Catholic church (it is not recognised) so what does the head-line mean, "refuses to allow communion for Catholic divorcees"? That's as crazy as saying "Moslems are good Christians".
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<quoted text>There is only one 'unforgivable;'and,only one sin which 'cries out to Heaven'for judgement.I disagree with the Church's stance in this matter.
Which sin is that? Murder of the innocent?

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Pax, you're smart. My husband and I are going to hell because although I had my first marriage annulled, he didn't get his done, so we married anyway - by a judge.
Actually, I never really believed that, but I acknowledge that I don't make the rules and the church may well have condemned me.
I haven't officially been diagnosed, but they say the person always knows...I'm on my way out. My body is breaking down and I just "know" my days are numbered. I tell you and justachristian this because I know you're two who won't make fun of me. I'm not looking for sympathy - that wouldn't do me any good. It's just pretty much over for me and I know God doesn't want me - He never did. I don't know who else to turn to. It's really bad tonight - it's 4:41 a.m. and I haven't slept yet, too upset and crying. I've given up, I'm tired of trying to fight the inevitable. I'm terrified. Not of hell, because I think deep down that death is simply non-existence. When I was in the hospital this last time, a dear friend of mine passed from cancer. She was an online friend; we'd never met in person but I never got the chance to tell her I'd been in the hosp. for 9 days and I fear she thought I was ignoring her. I've said goodbye to her in prayer. I hope that works. Life goes by too dang fast - before you know it, it's over. Sorry to sound so morbid but I'm one to face facts, even if I don't like them. I'm sure many here will be glad to see me go but I don't care what they think. I see my husband deteriorating and it's killing me. We really have had a beautiful marriage but his heart episode has aged him about 10 years. His mental attitude is a lot better than mine. I pretty much give up. It has been a unique and wonderful experience knowing you. There's nothing more I can do. But I'll tell you this much - I will NOT go gentle into that "good night"...I'll go out kicking and screaming. I'm getting a form for a living will from my doctor; at the end I want to be put into a drug-induced coma. I found out that's legal.
LOL - good example (mean and hateful icons) given by the "devout" Christians here, some of whom take pleasure just in the thought of others suffering. Don't they realize they'll be judged and punished for that? They show their true colors, and God can't be deceived.

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A Catholic just because they are divorced does not mean they have committed a "sin". Now keep your finger on the screen as you continue to read. The "divorcee" may have been being beaten or otherwise abused by their spouse. The "divorcee" may have needed to get away from a spouse that was commiting adultry. The Church does not require someone to stay in a marriage when there is no hope of a real relationship. What the Church requires is the annulment process be completed before entering into another marriage. If this is not done then you can talk about sin.
Pax, I had to leave due to abuse; never got hit, but lived with the threat of violence all the time.

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You ease my pain just by being here for me :)
I truly hope I can help you. May God bless you both. You both remain in my prayers, rest assured of that.

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I truly hope I can help you. May God bless you both. You both remain in my prayers, rest assured of that.
I know you're a true friend; so is Pax. I just give up, what can I do? I'm not saying I don't have a little time left - who knows - I just know it's "decline time".

I may be here for a while, I honestly don't know. But I thank you for everything.

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re Topic: I know some priests who WILL allow some divorced & remarried Catholics Communion. Right in our own parish. Guess they're wrong according to the pope, but they keep on doing it. Even a lot of the pope's own priests don't listen to him.
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RE: Pope Benedict XVI refuses to allow communion for Catholic divorcees
..... Any club or association can make rules and revise them from time to time. But those who claim to be successors of Jesus are supposed to do what Jesus did, not what others invented after Jesus had been crucified.
...I's find the statements',here..most interesting...eh..thankyou's.. .
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Pax, you're smart. My husband and I are going to hell because although I had my first marriage annulled, he didn't get his done, so we married anyway - by a judge.
Actually, I never really believed that, but I acknowledge that I don't make the rules and the church may well have condemned me.
I haven't officially been diagnosed, but they say the person always knows...I'm on my way out. My body is breaking down and I just "know" my days are numbered. I tell you and justachristian this because I know you're two who won't make fun of me. I'm not looking for sympathy - that wouldn't do me any good. It's just pretty much over for me and I know God doesn't want me - He never did. I don't know who else to turn to. It's really bad tonight - it's 4:41 a.m. and I haven't slept yet, too upset and crying. I've given up, I'm tired of trying to fight the inevitable. I'm terrified. Not of hell, because I think deep down that death is simply non-existence. When I was in the hospital this last time, a dear friend of mine passed from cancer. She was an online friend; we'd never met in person but I never got the chance to tell her I'd been in the hosp. for 9 days and I fear she thought I was ignoring her. I've said goodbye to her in prayer. I hope that works. Life goes by too dang fast - before you know it, it's over. Sorry to sound so morbid but I'm one to face facts, even if I don't like them. I'm sure many here will be glad to see me go but I don't care what they think. I see my husband deteriorating and it's killing me. We really have had a beautiful marriage but his heart episode has aged him about 10 years. His mental attitude is a lot better than mine. I pretty much give up. It has been a unique and wonderful experience knowing you. There's nothing more I can do. But I'll tell you this much - I will NOT go gentle into that "good night"...I'll go out kicking and screaming. I'm getting a form for a living will from my doctor; at the end I want to be put into a drug-induced coma. I found out that's legal.
Do not judge yourself so harshly. God does not do so. The Church has its rules and yet all in all only God knows our hearts. I believe you have tried to do your best in life and even in this state may have more time than you can see right now. Life does go by way too fast. I am no spring chicken myself and see more behind me than ahead of me. Still I do not believe that there is nothing to look forward to. I have lost loved ones and yet for reasons I can not fully explain find them nearer to me in death than they were to me in life. I fully believe that you will not "go gentle into that good night". I will pray for you and keep good thoughts going your way. Peace.
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Pax, I had to leave due to abuse; never got hit, but lived with the threat of violence all the time.
Thank you for sharing this. It must have been hard but in this you had to get away.

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