Pope Francis holds the cross as he leads a vigil mass during Easter. REUTERS/Stefano Rellandini

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CBCP News quoted Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines and Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma as saying that he received a request from the Vatican to move the International Eucharistic Congress to a much earlier date.

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truth

Perth, Australia

#84 May 28, 2013
sound duson..see
did you talking about my familyyyyyyyyyy
which you try destroy
put on shame as well very bad nameeeeeeeeeeee
put crime
pritice over us
how many time how many years
is that crimeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
is that shameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
if not
please tell me why not is that organize crimeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
why that crime you cover uppppppppppppp

why you call yourself good and holy
when you know you do evil crime up[on evil crimeeeeeeeeeeeeee

what a about that
if somebody do to youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
practising or destroying youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
or anyoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeee

on evil most corupt way
even when you siting in church they watching youuuuuuu
still great liars upon evil liars
can be very nice in nice suits with evil nice speech..still they hurt you still they speak we are very good toward you because crime in eyes of them os not crime..

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyy
nyg

Concord, Canada

#85 May 30, 2013
Elias has truly been trashed to pieces in this thread. By a regular joe cafeteria Catholic. haha
nyg

Mississauga, Canada

#86 Jun 2, 2013
funny how Elias disappeared for a few days after being trashed to bits here.

Because nobody would notice you removing half a paragraph from a Catholic author and twisting his words out of context, right elias?
truth

Perth, Australia

#87 Jun 2, 2013
i am as i am as i always been..
now you are too

who is on my place..asked yourself..
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyy
israelNOTpinas

Quezon City, Philippines

#88 Jun 2, 2013
Elias is busy on how to twist unfavoroble verses
to align on INC demented justifications.

Take your Time and continue to be brainwashed
to the Last messenger message!
INChoax

Valenzuela, Philippines

#89 Jun 3, 2013
And who is the Architect of the Iglesia Ni Cristo Buildings, even the Central Temple they worshipped... NONE OTHER THAN A DEVOUT CATHOLIC, Carlos A. Santos-Viola, who never joined the INC even through a persistent invitation of their SOGO este SUGO,.,
"Therefore, Iglesia ni Cristo architecture is amazing and better than anything else"
Elias Barang stop doing anything that will put you and your false god to shame...
israelNOTpinas

Quezon City, Philippines

#90 Jun 3, 2013
Felix the rapis twisted his surname from Ysagun to manalo

Felix manalo twisted the date of his Marriage.

Felix Manalo twist the name of his son Eranew=New Era Jan 2.

Iglesia ni Manalo Twisted the far-east epic

Iglesia ni manloloko twisted the bird of prey theory

Iglesia ni Manloloko Twist the Architect.
nyg

Concord, Canada

#91 Jun 11, 2013
Check post #10 for the the exposure of Elias' add/subtract squid tactics.
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#92 Jun 25, 2013
Ozzy wrote:
Ileus
You just have sour grapes because you were caught leaving out pertinent information that went against what you were wanting to prove. That was purposely done to makes your twists and lies.
You were caught and now vomiting a bunch of obstructive shit to cover yourself.
You are an INM whore willing to suck off your minister because he tells you it will give you salvation. Jose will surely miss your mouth when you dies of your AIDS.
Ozzy,

You just make me laugh!!! I don't leave pertinent information if it is needed in my post and argument!!! What I posted are only things that are needed to negate your post!!! I am not used to redundancy!!! Improve your low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#93 Jun 25, 2013
nyg wrote:
Elias has truly been trashed to pieces in this thread. By a regular joe cafeteria Catholic. haha
Nyg,

If you are basing the matter on your low I.Q. but to the intellectuals, it is the other way around!!! Improve your low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#94 Jun 25, 2013
nyg wrote:
funny how Elias disappeared for a few days after being trashed to bits here.
Because nobody would notice you removing half a paragraph from a Catholic author and twisting his words out of context, right elias?
Nyg,

I never disappeared and is not intending to!!! Being busy and lacking time here is not disappearance!!! You are into wishful thinking!!! Improve your low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#95 Jun 25, 2013
israelNOTpinas wrote:
Elias is busy on how to twist unfavoroble verses
to align on INC demented justifications.
Take your Time and continue to be brainwashed
to the Last messenger message!
IsraelNOTpinas,

You are the one being brainwashed!!! You were made to accept the teachings of men with no authority from God!!! Thus, you cannot even maintain your dilapidated chapels!!! Improve your low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#96 Jun 25, 2013
nyg wrote:
Check post #10 for the the exposure of Elias' add/subtract squid tactics.
Nyg,

No add-subtract from me!!! Only that you lack understanding on how to post!!! You don't post things that are not needed!!! Redundancy is taboo and a no!!! Improve your low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#97 Jun 25, 2013
israelNOTpinas wrote:
Felix the rapis twisted his surname from Ysagun to manalo
Felix manalo twisted the date of his Marriage.
Felix Manalo twist the name of his son Eranew=New Era Jan 2.
Iglesia ni Manalo Twisted the far-east epic
Iglesia ni manloloko twisted the bird of prey theory
Iglesia ni Manloloko Twist the Architect.
IsraelNOTpinas,

It is your spurious "Born-again" cult which do the twists!!! Whenever your pseudo-preachers are challenged to a debate, they all contort to the maximum like clowns in circusses!!! Improve your low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#98 Jun 25, 2013
The cross is an instrument of torture!!! Those who use the sign of the cross are the anti-Christ!!! Catholics and Protestants use the cross in their chapels without knowing that they have made themselves identified with those who opposed our Lord Jesus Christ in every which way!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Ozzy

Coxsackie, NY

#99 Jun 25, 2013
"You just make me laugh!!! I don't leave pertinent information if it is needed in my post and argument!!! What I posted are only things that are needed to negate your post!!! I am not used to redundancy!!!"

You leave out a sentence or parts of a sentence to change the meaning of what was really said. If making garbage and lies is "only things that are needed to negate your post" is what you need to do, then you are only proven as the liar you are. Classic INM style.

Do you let Jose give you lashings on your bum for the lies you tell as punishment? Or does Jose ok your responses? Does he give you a happy ending when he loves the lies you wrote? LOL!!!
Ozzy

Coxsackie, NY

#100 Jun 25, 2013
"The cross is an instrument of torture!!! Those who use the sign of the cross are the anti-Christ!!! Catholics and Protestants use the cross in their chapels without knowing that they have made themselves identified with those who opposed our Lord Jesus Christ in every which way!!!"

Just another thing for you to try and twist something to make Catholics and other Protestants look bad without being honest enough to tell the TRUTH.

The cross is used to remind Christians of the suffering Jesus endured to save the world of sin. It is the most significant gift given to Christians from Jesus as a man.

That is why INM is such a bastard church. They want the focus on Manalo and the church and take as much away from Jesus as they can. INM takes away the deity of Jesus and makes Manalo an angel. INM makes Jesus a liar and Manalo there to clean up the mess Jesus left.

We have seen Ileus claim that Manalo made sacrifices but when asked what the sacrifices are, he has no good answer. No sacrifices were made by Manalo. And yet, INM wants to ignore the sacrifices made by Jesus.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#101 Jun 25, 2013
Sure about your beloved church?
www.scribd.com/doc/149235714 ...
nyg

Mississauga, Canada

#102 Jun 25, 2013
Here's a little refresher on Elias' add and subtract, nitpicking squid tactics. In attempting to justify the lie that INC tries to insinuate that Catholics worship graven images;

ELIAS IBARRA wrote: "The images of Christ, and of His Virgin Mother, and of the other Saints, are to be had and retained, especially in churches;... the honor which is given them is referred to the originals they represent, so that by the images we kiss, and before which we uncover our heads or kneel, we adore Christ and venerate His Saints, whose likeness they represent'..." Reference:[James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith Of Our Fathers, p. 164]

The actual paragraph reads.“The images of Christ, and of His Virgin Mother, and of other Saints, are to be had and retained, especially in churches; and a due honor and veneration is to be given to them; not that any divinity or virtue is believed to be in them for which they are to be honored, or that any prayer is to be made to them, or that any confidence is to be placed in them, as was formerly done by the heathens, who placed their hopes in idols; but because the honor which is given them is referred to the originals which they represent, so that by the images which we kiss, and before which we uncover our heads or kneel, we adore Christ and venerate His Saints, whose likeness they represent.” http://www.gutenberg.org/files/27435/27435-pd ...

Notice how the sentences he removed COMPLETELY changes the context and meaning of the Gibbon's real words.

Class iglesia ni manalo 'chose and remove' tactics. Pathetic
Ozzy

Catskill, NY

#103 Jun 25, 2013
"Pathetic" is absolutely the best adjective to describe INM.

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