Pope Benedict XVI resigns, shocks Christian...

Feb 11, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Sun-Star

Pray for the Holy Father, said Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma, as Pope Benedict XVI shocked his global flock by announcing his resignation Monday.

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ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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Let's take a look at another of his cult's brainwashing tacts, shall we?
""LESSON NO.24 - THE CHURCH ADMINISTRATION
Theme: Each member of the Church of Christ should be listed with the Church and should submit to the Church Administration.
Objective: To teach the candidate for baptism concerning submission to the Church Administration by obeying the rules and orderliness imposed on the members such as the getting of a certificate of transfer, attendance on committee prayers, getting certificate of attendance in the worship service from locales other than the one he is registered in, etc.
Summary: Each member should submit to the Administration placed by God in the Church by means of total agreement with the teachings and rules observed in the Church of Christ.
Introduction: We should know that to ensure our salvation, we should remain members of the Church of Christ. For this reason, it is important that we know how to keep and maintain our membership in the Church."
(Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ), Erano G. Manalo, 1989, p.99)"
Where in the Bible do we see the words "Church Administration"? How about "Executive Director"? Why are they never permitted to question the administration?
Want to have some fun? Check out the ranking system that his cult uses to maintain total control over
Cretin Atheist,

This verse proves that there is a "Church Adminnistration":

"Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood." [Acts 20:28, Lamsa Translation]

The Holy Spirit has appointed "overseers" in the Church of Christ and whose task is to feed the flock!!! And one of the the meanings of "overseer" according to the Free On-line Dictionary is "administrator":

overseer
noun supervisor, manager, chief, boss (informal), master, inspector, superior, administrator, steward, superintendent, gaffer (informal, chiefly Brit.), foreman, super (informal), baas (S. African) Officials agreed to appoint a federal overseer to run the agency's daily business.

Therefore the use of the expression "church administration or Church administrator" is biblically correct!!!

Improve your low I.Q. and pedigrees for of all atheists, you have the lowest!!! Don't forget to visit Bellevue!!!

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Cretin Atheist,
We are in the millions and since everyone in the Iglesia ni Cristo do their share, we don't need money from any politician!!! Just remember this that without election, we still builds hundreds of grandiose and beautiful chapels!!!
Bwahahahahahahahahaha! Your numbers are dropping!

Your cult extorts money from trapos and those seeking office. They are no different than El Shaddai.
We have built already more than thirty grandiose and beautiful chapels for the first quarter of year 2013!!!
That's a lie.

And I will soon be posting their respective locations!!! We have eleven for the month of March 2013!!!
Sorry, but I call "Bullshit".

I have seen some of your 'grandiose and beautiful' chapels. They are little more than squat cinder block buildings.

Is it too difficult to not parrot the Pasugo?
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ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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Bwahahahahahahahahaha! Your numbers are dropping!
Your cult extorts money from trapos and those seeking office. They are no different than El Shaddai.
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That's a lie.
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Sorry, but I call "Bullshit".
I have seen some of your 'grandiose and beautiful' chapels. They are little more than squat cinder block buildings.
Is it too difficult to not parrot the Pasugo?
Cretin Atheist,

What are dropping are your promontory lips for it is about to fall to the dusts!!! For year 2013, the Iglesia ni Cristo has dedicated to God more than 30 grandiiose and beautiful chapels!!! And here are the locations for the month of March:

1. Locale of San Juan, Ecclesiastical District of Cagayan South.

2. Locale of Cabayawasan, Mangatarem, Ecclesiastical District of Pangasinan East.

3. Locale of Macrohon, Ecclesiastical District of Leyte East.

4. Locale of Ramon, Lamut, Ifugao, Ecclesiastical District of Isabela South.

5. Locale of Motiong, Ecclesiastical District of Samar South.

6. Locale of Bombon, Ecclesiastical District of Camarines Sur.

7. Locale of San Isidro, Tagum City, Ecclesiastical District of Davao del Norte.

8. Locale of Libacao, Ecclesiastical District of Aklan.

9. Locale of Magallanes, Ecclesiastical District of Sorsogon.

10. Locale of Talus, Malungon, Ecclesiastical District of Cotabato South.

11. Locale of Pasay, Ecclesiastical District of Metro Manila South

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

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ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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Bwahahahahahahahahaha! Your numbers are dropping!
Your cult extorts money from trapos and those seeking office. They are no different than El Shaddai.
<quoted text>
That's a lie.
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Sorry, but I call "Bullshit".
I have seen some of your 'grandiose and beautiful' chapels. They are little more than squat cinder block buildings.
Is it too difficult to not parrot the Pasugo?
Cretin Atheist,

The spurious and paganistic religions from Europe and America are into deep trouble!!! No more takers of their falsities!!! Their members would rather go to the malls instead of attending their worship services and the real estate market is awash with "For Sale" signs of chapels and churches owned by them but with empty pews!!!

What did these fakes do that made them collapse at will??? First of all, only one true Church was established by Christ and not many!!! Second, our Almighty God has authorized preachers but the pseudo-preachers of the false religions just arrogate unto themselves the right to preach without commissioning from God!!!

The result is now becoming obvious!!! The Iglesia ni Cristo buys their chapels with empty pews and is expanding all over the world in a crescendo beyond imagination!!!

While the false religions become "spent candles at the bottom":

"The first decade of the 21st century is characterized by a "Great Religious Recession". Making matters worse, the economic recession in 2007 "did not drive people to religion; instead, it drove religion farther into irrelevance." (p. 82)

"In the United States for example, the Willow Creek Community Church---one of America's famous megachurches---"has suffered membership stagnation and a lack of enthusiasm among the faithful".(Ibid. p.73.)

"Even the Catholic Church has barely maintained its share of the population, mostly because immigrant Catholics offset the massive loss of U.S.-born members".(Ibid. p.20)
Reference:(Christianity After Religion: The End of Church and the Birth of New Spiritual Awakening, pp. 82, 73, 20.)

All Roman Catholics, United Church of Christ in the Philippines, Philippine General Council of Assemblies of God, Philippines For Jesus Movement, Atheists, United Methodist Church Philippines, General Assembly of Presbyterian Church in the Philippines, Convention of Philippine Baptist Churches, Protestants, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, Bereans, "Ang Dating Tumbong Doon" K.Y.J. Eli Fernando Soriano, Baptists, Philippine Council of Evangelical Churches, Seventh-day Adventists, Evangelicals, Charismatics, Spurious Born-again, Presbyterians, Orthodox, Aglipayans, 700 Bar Club members, Episcopalians, Methodists, Branch Davidians, members of European and American cults, Skeptics, Agnostics, and those outside of the true Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) must improve their low I.Q.s!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
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Some examples of the so called beautiful and grandiose chapels of the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church without Christ) as per Elias Ibarra. Note: link to Guam locales on the directory don't work!

Locale Directory: http://www.iglesianicristo.ws/

Barcelona, Spain
http://goo.gl/maps/5Xmho

Hamburg Germany
http://goo.gl/maps/dvtJE

Miami USA
http://goo.gl/maps/LylYy

Amsterdam, Netherlands
http://goo.gl/maps/7oG8S

London, England
http://goo.gl/maps/M1zBF

Paris, France
http://goo.gl/maps/Z7eiD

Cabramatta, Australia
http://goo.gl/maps/TEMMA
(they use the high school gym!)
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Cretin Atheist,
What are dropping are your promontory lips for it is about to fall to the dusts!!! For year 2013, the Iglesia ni Cristo has dedicated to God more than 30 grandiiose and beautiful chapels!!! And here are the locations for the month of March:
1. Locale of San Juan, Ecclesiastical District of Cagayan South.
2. Locale of Cabayawasan, Mangatarem, Ecclesiastical District of Pangasinan East.
3. Locale of Macrohon, Ecclesiastical District of Leyte East.
4. Locale of Ramon, Lamut, Ifugao, Ecclesiastical District of Isabela South.
5. Locale of Motiong, Ecclesiastical District of Samar South.
6. Locale of Bombon, Ecclesiastical District of Camarines Sur.
7. Locale of San Isidro, Tagum City, Ecclesiastical District of Davao del Norte.
8. Locale of Libacao, Ecclesiastical District of Aklan.
9. Locale of Magallanes, Ecclesiastical District of Sorsogon.
10. Locale of Talus, Malungon, Ecclesiastical District of Cotabato South.
11. Locale of Pasay, Ecclesiastical District of Metro Manila South
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
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ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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We are in the millions and since everyone in the Iglesia ni Cristo do their share, we don't need money from any politician!!! Just remember this that without election, we still builds hundreds of grandiose and beautiful chapels!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Hello ELIAS... Look at the POSTERS of the POLITICIANS right NOW...
What are the common colors?

Green, white and Red... hello its Election time its INC bloc-voting Time...

green, white red in vertical - Flag of Italy
green, white red in horizontal - Flag of Iran
green, white, red with coat of arms - Flag of Mexico
green, white, red with Menorah - Flag of Political Dynasty

The rise of Iglesia ni cristo Occultism in the Philippines on 1913 shown by its numerous chapels all over the land that were built after elections."

The winning candidate who invested on INC Chapels will definitely reimburse his/her expenses to the Public fund.

The lossing candidate will try his luck next election but eventually reimburse his expenses in his private business magical tax computation.

Hello Elias... show us your insignificant numbers then multiply it...
you can never build a grandiose chapel without politics-
you are Indeed Hypocrites

Commission on Audit...

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1) The 'chapel' in Pasay has been mentioned in several years. How many times will the same 'chapel' open?

2) The 'chapel' in Samar had likewise been repeated.

3) Our Guam based cum dump attends the 'chapel' in Yigo, Guam. It is a rented storefront!

4) Jose Ventilacion, INC apologist extraordinaire, is the overseer at that 'chapel'.

If you have ever been to Guam, you know that you can reach almost anywhere in no time. The INC pretends it is growing by breaking apart groups to form smaller cult units. They then can claim that they have multiple 'chapels'. LOL!

Let us not forget his recent attempt to look 'important'..."make sure that your delibitating diseases are cured!!!"

Delibitating? His AIDS is now full blown.
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nyg wrote:
Some examples of the so called beautiful and grandiose chapels of the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church without Christ) as per Elias Ibarra. Note: link to Guam locales on the directory don't work!
Locale Directory: http://www.iglesianicristo.ws/
Barcelona, Spain
http://goo.gl/maps/5Xmho
Hamburg Germany
http://goo.gl/maps/dvtJE
Miami USA
http://goo.gl/maps/LylYy
Amsterdam, Netherlands
http://goo.gl/maps/7oG8S
London, England
http://goo.gl/maps/M1zBF
Paris, France
http://goo.gl/maps/Z7eiD
Cabramatta, Australia
http://goo.gl/maps/TEMMA
(they use the high school gym!)
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Nyg,

You have to remember that the chapels that you posted were once owned by the Roman Catholic and Protestant cults!!! These were sold to us because the cults have suffered the so-called "Great Religious Recession"!!!

We renovated the buildings and here are the respective seating capacity after the aesthetic works were done leading to the dedications to the Almighty God:

1. Barcelona, Spain
Previous owner: Jehovah Witnesses
Seating capacity: 1, 350
Acreage/ Size: 49,352.50 square feet
2. Hamburg, Germany
Previous owner: Jehovah Witnesses
Seating capacity: 130
Acreage/Size: 10,764 square feet
3. Manchester, England
Previous Owner: Union Baptist Church
Seating capacity: 270
Acreage size: 7,378 square feet (edifice only)
4. Newport, Wales
Previous owner: Baptist Church
Seating capacity: 250
Acreage/Size: 13,189 square feet
5. Ibiza, Spain
Previous owner: BM4 Confort, S.L.
Seating Capacity: 140
Acreage/Size: 5,059.04 square feet
6. Toronto Central, Canada
Previous owner: Mount Dennis United Church
Seating capacity: 450
Acreage/Size: 23,800 square feet
7. Kent, Washington
Previous owner: Hansarang Korean Church
Seating capacity: 350
Acreage/Size: 2.2 acres

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Guam
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1) The 'chapel' in Pasay has been mentioned in several years. How many times will the same 'chapel' open?
Cretin Atheist,

Pasay is a city with several big chapels of the Iglesia ni Cristo!!! There are several congregations in the city which commensurate with the number of chapels in the place!!! Improve your low I.Q. but don't forget about the herpes in your protruding lips!!!

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2) The 'chapel' in Samar had likewise been repeated.
Cretin Atheist,

Two dedications of grandiose and beautiful chapels were done in Samar lately: Catbalogan and Motiong!!!

Before you open your protruding lips with herpes, just make sure that it will not cause thunderclaps!!! Have shame!!!

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Hello ELIAS... Look at the POSTERS of the POLITICIANS right NOW...
What are the common colors?
Green, white and Red... hello its Election time its INC bloc-voting Time...
green, white red in vertical - Flag of Italy
green, white red in horizontal - Flag of Iran
green, white, red with coat of arms - Flag of Mexico
green, white, red with Menorah - Flag of Political Dynasty
The rise of Iglesia ni cristo Occultism in the Philippines on 1913 shown by its numerous chapels all over the land that were built after elections."
IsraelNOTpinas,

Were there elections in 2011 and 2012??? A BIG NO!!! Yet, the Iglesia ni Cristo built hundreds of chapels all over the world during these years!!! Here are some as reported for the months of September-December 2012:
1. In the Nueva Era Resettlement Project of the Iglesia ni Cristo in Veruela, Agusan del Sur, three were decicated to God.
2. Barotac Nuevo, Iloilo South.
3. Libertad, Romblon.
4. Rajal, Pangasinan East.
5. Acharon, Cotabato South.
6. Mahayahay, Misamis Occidental.
7. Liskeb, Bacnotan, La Union.
8. Pila, Laguna.
9. Bataraza, Palawan South.
10. Tiposu, Urdaneta City, Pangasinan East.
11. Bebeladan, El Nido, Palawan.
12. San Alejandro, Sto. Domingo, Nueva Ecija South and
13. Payatas, Metro Manila Central.
14. Locale of Mararigue, San Manuel, Isabela West.
15. Locale of San Isidro, Rosario, Batangas.
16. Locale of Pinaod, Bulacan North.
17. Locale of Alamada, Maguindanao.
18. Locale of Mulanay, Quezon South.
19. Locale of Canda, Quezon West.
20. Locale of Sipit, Butuan, Agusan del Sur.
21. Locale of Borlan, Zamboanga Central.
22. Locale of Longa-og, Sto. Tomas, Ecclesiastical District of Davao del Norte.
23. Locale of Inaban, Ecclesiastical District of Nueva Vizcaya.
24. Locale of Malonoy, Dau, Ecclesiastical District of Capiz.
25. Locale of Boalan, Ecclesiastical District of Zamboanga Central.
26. Locale of Tuao, Ecclesiastical District of Cagayan South.
27. Locale of Paniqui, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac North.
28. Locale of Andres Bonifacio, Llaneras, Ecclesiastical District of Nueva Ecija North.
29. Locale of Kabatuhan, Labo, Ecclesiastical District of Camarines Norte.
30. Locale of Natividad, Ecclesiastical District of Pangasinan.
31. Locale of Taculing, Bacolod City, Ecclesiastical District of Negros Occidental.
32. Locale of Mayngaway, San Andres, Ecclesiastical District of Catanduanes.
33. Locale of Carigara, Ecclesiastical District of Leyte East.
34. Locale of Isabel, Ecclesiastical District of Leyte West.
35. Locale of Real, Ecclesiastical District of Quezon North.
36. Locale of Jolo, Sulu, Ecclesiastical District of Zamboanga Central.
37. Locale of Tenan, Ipil, Ecclesiastical District of Zamboanga Central.
38. Locale of Washington D.C., Ecclesiastical District of Northeastern Seaboard.
39. Locale of Miami, Florida, Ecclesiastical District of Southeastern Seaboard.
40. Locale of Bamban, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac South.
41. Locale of Tangkaran, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac North.
42. Locale of Ondoy, Ibajay, Ecclesiastical District of Aklan.
43. Locale of Veruela, Ecclesiastical District of Agusan del Sur.
44. Locale of Pili, Ecclesiastical District of Camarines Sur.
45. Locale of Yumbing, Camiguin, Ecclesiastical District of Misamis Oriental.
46. Locale of San Sebastian, San Luis, Ecclesiastical District of Pampanga.
47. Locale of Dolores, Ecclesiastical District of Tarlac South.
48. Locale of Pinaod, San Ildefonso, Ecclesiastical District of Bulacan North.
49. Locale of Lipa City, Ecclesiastical District of Batangas (Enlarged and renovated to accomodate new converts).
50. Locale of Bascaran, Ecclesiastical District of Nueva Vizcaya.
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There is nothing to be proud of with regards to landgrabbed properties owned by the Roman Catholic Church, Orthodox, and Protestants!!! Several historical scholars have already exposed the forgeries and fabrications of the Vatican popes!!!

The Donation of Costantine was one of these forgeries and by Pope Hadrian I:

"Purporting to have been written by the Emperor Constantine himself, it emerged from nowhere. The document with one master stroke put the popes above kings, emperors, and nations, made them legal heirs to the territory of the Roman Empire, which it granted to them, lock, stock, and barrel, and gave to St. Peter -- or rather to St. Silvester and his successors -- all lands to the West and beyond, indeed, all lands of the planet."

Reference: Manhattan, Avro. The Vatican Billions, pp. 32-33. Chino, California: Chick Publications, 1983.

All properties of the Roman Catholic Church the world over are questionable including those which she shared with the Orthodox and Protestant cults during the traumas of her convulsive schisms!!!

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Which ones are you talking about? The high school gym in Australia? The ground floor retail unit in Barcelona? Or the house with the INC Freemason logo in Miami? None of those were churches to begin with.

INC buys old, dilapidated churches that are sold to them by Roman Catholics and Protestants who move to bigger locations in better parts on town. INC buys buildings in fringe parts of town that nobody else wants
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Nyg,
You have to remember that the chapels that you posted were once owned by the Roman Catholic and Protestant cults!!! These were sold to us because the cults have suffered the so-called "Great Religious Recession"!!!
We renovated the buildings and here are the respective seating capacity after the aesthetic works were done leading to the dedications to the Almighty God:
1. Barcelona, Spain
Previous owner: Jehovah Witnesses
Seating capacity: 1, 350
Acreage/ Size: 49,352.50 square feet
2. Hamburg, Germany
Previous owner: Jehovah Witnesses
Seating capacity: 130
Acreage/Size: 10,764 square feet
3. Manchester, England
Previous Owner: Union Baptist Church
Seating capacity: 270
Acreage size: 7,378 square feet (edifice only)
4. Newport, Wales
Previous owner: Baptist Church
Seating capacity: 250
Acreage/Size: 13,189 square feet
5. Ibiza, Spain
Previous owner: BM4 Confort, S.L.
Seating Capacity: 140
Acreage/Size: 5,059.04 square feet
6. Toronto Central, Canada
Previous owner: Mount Dennis United Church
Seating capacity: 450
Acreage/Size: 23,800 square feet
7. Kent, Washington
Previous owner: Hansarang Korean Church
Seating capacity: 350
Acreage/Size: 2.2 acres
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No chapel of the Iglesia ni Cristo as you mentioned was subjected to an attack!!! If you think that I will thank you for your grandstanding, then, you are wrong!!! We don't need your help nor from your team!!!
No one outside of the Iglesia ni Cristo works within the Iglesia ni Cristo!!! We don't need you!!! We have enough members who can do their job much better than you and your team!!!
Your H.I.V., syphilis, and typhoid are again flaring up!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Anyone interested in searching for the facts can Google "Iglesia ni Cristo Cotabato bombing". You can find photos of what he denies happened.

His leaders were so desperate to find those who destroyed their shack that they offered my team jobs. They claimed they could pay us far more than Uncle Sam. I have no doubt they could. They drove luxury vehicles and spend the money that their stooges give them.

See for yourself.

In other news, our Guam based AIDS victim forgets that I am actually in the RP at the moment. I have some good friends in Pasay and took the opportunity to investigate his claims about a brand new 'grandiose and beautiful chapel' opening there during the first few months of this year.

Well...nope, nada, nothing even close exists.

Pasay City has two small congregations of the INC.

-#2942 Apelo Cruz Street, Malibay, Pasay City
-#161 Proprietarios Street, Cartimar, Pasay City

Both have been around for years.

There is no new locale. None. You lie. Your Pasugo is not to be believed. you fear being excommunicated for challenging their lies and blindly believe. Fool. You waste what little time your HIV allows.

ROTFLMAO!

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ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
There is nothing to be proud of with regards to landgrabbed properties owned by the Roman Catholic Church, Orthodox, and Protestants!!! Several historical scholars have already exposed the forgeries and fabrications of the Vatican popes!!!
The Donation of Costantine was one of these forgeries and by Pope Hadrian I:
"Purporting to have been written by the Emperor Constantine himself, it emerged from nowhere. The document with one master stroke put the popes above kings, emperors, and nations, made them legal heirs to the territory of the Roman Empire, which it granted to them, lock, stock, and barrel, and gave to St. Peter -- or rather to St. Silvester and his successors -- all lands to the West and beyond, indeed, all lands of the planet."
Reference: Manhattan, Avro. The Vatican Billions, pp. 32-33. Chino, California: Chick Publications, 1983.
All properties of the Roman Catholic Church the world over are questionable including those which she shared with the Orthodox and Protestant cults during the traumas of her convulsive schisms!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
I guess you never heard of the Holy Roman Empire? The Pope was the leader of all Catholic nations and therefore, above kings. As many Catholic nations were part of this empire, it made perfect sense. This is hardly a puzzle. Your cluelessness isn't surprising since you are afraid to search history websites.

Why do INC stooges in Guam have shrines in their homes to Felix and Erano?
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"Why do INC stooges in Guam have shrines in their homes to Felix and Erano?"

They are helpful aids for their circle jerk.
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Yes, almost all of these old Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant chapels are sitting on landgrabbed properties and a lot of these too were built through forced labor!!!

The Vatican is itself a landgrabbed property based on history!!! The popes of the Roman Catholic Church forged or fabricated documents to retain old stolen properties and landgrabbed some new ones!!! The so-called "Donation of Constantine" is one because a Roman Catholic pope was fearful that Charlemagne might turn his back on the Catholic Church!!! The pope made a move to prevent this from taking place:

"Pope Hadrian I in A.D. 774 presented him with a copy of the Donation of Constantine. This was reputed to be the grant by Constantine of immense possessions and vast territories to the Church. It was another papal forgery. Whereas the letter from Peter had been a forgery by Pope Stephen, the Donation of Costantine was one by Pope Hadrian I.

"Purporting to have been written by the Emperor Constantine himself, it emerged from nowhere. The document with one master stroke put the popes above kings, emperors, and nations, made them legal heirs to the territory of the Roman Empire, which it granted to them, lock, stock, and barrel, and gave to St. Peter -- or rather to St. Silvester and his successors -- all lands to the West and beyond, indeed, all lands of the planet."

Reference:(Manhattan, Avro. The Vatican Billions, pp. 32-33. Chino, California: Chick Publications, 1983.

The document enabled the Church to wrangle concessions from temporal rulers during the Middle Ages until it was exposed as a forgery by three scholars who:

"Succeeded, more than any others had done, in exploiting the myth on historical grounds, proving without doubt that the fact of the Donation, no less than the document, was fraudulent invention. They were Reginal Pecock, Bishop of Chichester, Cardinal Cusa, and above all Lorenzo Valla, who proved that the popes had no right whatsoever over any land in Europe and had not even the right to possess the States of the Church in Italy or in Rome itself." (Ibid. p.51)

Were the Roman Catholic Church and the papacy put to shame by this discovery? Not at all and this is what is written:

"When the full potentialities of the pope as the Vicar of Christ were elaborated, the Donation could be dispensed with, as was done in fact by Innocent III."

Reference:(New Catholic Encyclopedia, vol. 4, p. 1001)

Real Elias Ibarra
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Do Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) TV preachers realize that they humiliate and insult Catholics with their full-blast demolition job, by interpreting and inferring “falsehoods” of many principal Catholic beliefs and practices?(This is done without the full benefit of explanations and clarifications by a competent Catholic authority present).

Why are the INC TV preachers obsessed with anti-Catholic talk day in, day out?

Is the destruction of Catholicism an integral part of INC evangelization to promote INC membership growth, INC members’ righteousness and exclusive salvation?

Can’t the INC preachers sermonize their sola scriptura beliefs for their own exclusive holiness and spirituality, without having to defame Catholics?

Is the intent of the INC the proclamation and recognition of the INC (established by the patriarch of the Manalo family in 1914) as the only sacred, righteous, invincible and infallible church to the eternal damnation of all other Christian religions?

Don’t INC TV anti-Catholic diatribes render obsolete Jesus Christ’s sermon on the mount; e.g.“Blessed are the peacemaker… the merciful… those who suffer for righteousness sake”?

Why do INC TV preachers disregard the constitutional provisions that different religious beliefs must be respected and tolerated?

Granted that INC TV preachers talk in eloquent Tagalog and do not fulminate, still their trajectory of insult and humiliation is obvious. And they say the greatest commandment is love?

Perhaps it’s time for INC leaders to undergo soul searching to reconsider their uncharitable treatment of Catholics on TV. The crying need in our country is for all segments of society to work in a concentrated effort for peace and unity. The same is true in our globalized world bedeviled by wars of aggression and terrorism traceable to religious fanaticism.

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Almost every nation on the planet has been invaded. Land grabbing is de facto.

Maybe they should RENT their chapels, like your cult does.
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israelNOTpinas wrote:
Do Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) TV preachers realize that they humiliate and insult Catholics with their full-blast demolition job, by interpreting and inferring “falsehoods” of many principal Catholic beliefs and practices?(This is done without the full benefit of explanations and clarifications by a competent Catholic authority present).
Why are the INC TV preachers obsessed with anti-Catholic talk day in, day out?
Is the destruction of Catholicism an integral part of INC evangelization to promote INC membership growth, INC members’ righteousness and exclusive salvation?
Can’t the INC preachers sermonize their sola scriptura beliefs for their own exclusive holiness and spirituality, without having to defame Catholics?
Is the intent of the INC the proclamation and recognition of the INC (established by the patriarch of the Manalo family in 1914) as the only sacred, righteous, invincible and infallible church to the eternal damnation of all other Christian religions?
Don’t INC TV anti-Catholic diatribes render obsolete Jesus Christ’s sermon on the mount; e.g.“Blessed are the peacemaker… the merciful… those who suffer for righteousness sake”?
Why do INC TV preachers disregard the constitutional provisions that different religious beliefs must be respected and tolerated?
Granted that INC TV preachers talk in eloquent Tagalog and do not fulminate, still their trajectory of insult and humiliation is obvious. And they say the greatest commandment is love?
Perhaps it’s time for INC leaders to undergo soul searching to reconsider their uncharitable treatment of Catholics on TV. The crying need in our country is for all segments of society to work in a concentrated effort for peace and unity. The same is true in our globalized world bedeviled by wars of aggression and terrorism traceable to religious fanaticism.
IsraelNOTpinas

False doctrines of Catholics and Protestants must be exposed!!! It is a God-given task for man should come to the true knowledge of the true God, the true Christ, and the true Church of Christ!!!

The Iglesia ni Cristo is very successful on the matter for She spread all over the habitable continents to the dismay and embarrassments of the false religions!!!

One of the false doctrines of the Catholics and Protestants is this and should be stopped for it is detrimental to the salvation of mankind:

" ... according to the teaching of the Church, the dogma of the Blessed Trinity ... is a mystery in the fullest sense: that is to say, it cannot be proved by reason,... if any, it cannot be proved to be possible."

" ... ayon sa turo ng Iglesia Katolika, ang dogma ng Santisima Trinidad ... ay isang hiwaga sa kaniyang kabuuang kahulugan: nangangahulugan lamang na ito'y hindi mapatutunayan ng kakayahan ng tao na mangatuwiran (reason),... hindi mapatutunayang ito'y posible."

Reference: Blount, C.F., Rev. The Blessed Trinity. p. 2. London.

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