Filipino Catholics hails new saints

Filipino Catholics hails new saints

There are 92 comments on the Weekend Balita story from Apr 29, 2014, titled Filipino Catholics hails new saints. In it, Weekend Balita reports that:

Visitors look at an image of Pope John Paul II carved opposite an image of the Virgin Mary on a hillside in Maragundon town, Cavite city, south of Manila April 26, 2014.

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ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#1 Apr 29, 2014
Fabricated saints don't count!!! Beatification and canonization are false acts in making humans saints!!! Sainthood and salvation can't be bought with $20,000 beatification and $30,000 canonization fees!!!

The only way to biblical sainthood is the pouring of the blood for without it there is no salvation!!! Christ's blood is for the purification and redemption of His Church, the Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) and nothing else!!! It is not intended for the spurious religions of Catholicism, Protestantism, and others not linked to the body of Christ and which are outside the last work of salvation in these last days!!!

All Catholics and Protestants must stop being victims of the "Great Colossal Racketeers" of the Vatican with "Zero Grade Point Average" embossed upon the top of their skulls!!! These Trinitarians do not understand what they are preaching!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#2 Apr 29, 2014
The Vatican cult calls Apostle Peter as their first Pope!!! They call him as Saint Peter!!! And discerning people are wondering as to who beatified and canonized Peter??? And for how much??? When??? Where??? And who proclaimed him as saint???

I am challenging all Catholic afoologists to give proofs that Peter was in Rome!!! For the Bible clearly states that he was assigned by the first-century Church of Christ Administration to be an apostle to the Jews!!! It was Apostle Paul who was assigned to the Gentiles, the non-Jewish!!!

All Catholics and Protestants must improve their very low Vatican-duped I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#3 Apr 29, 2014
Try to examine one of the Catholic popes who had once beatified and canonized saints for $20,000 and $30,000 fees respectively!!! Examine their behavior:

"On October 30, 1501, Burchard described a dinner in the apartment of Caesar in the Vatican at which fifty naked Roman harlots chased chestnuts that were scattered over the floor, while Pope Alexander (VI) and Lucrezia looked on with amusement."

Reference:(Paul Williams, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About the Catholic Church But Were Afraid to Ask For Fear of Excommunication. New York: Doubleday, 1989, p.19)

You may wonder as to how much was shared and given to the Roman Catholic prosties from the beatification and canonization fees!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

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#4 Apr 29, 2014
Peter's remains were found in Rome! The apostles called Rome 'Babylon'... The term didn't mean the city of Babylon which figures so greatly in the Old Testament, though the code word was chosen precisely because of what ancient Babylon had done to the Jews--the Romans were doing likewise to Christians.

Likewise through INM thinking....18 years of Jesus' life does not appear in scripture. Does this mean he was born then vanished then came back to start his ministry? lol
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#5 May 4, 2014
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
Peter's remains were found in Rome! The apostles called Rome 'Babylon'... The term didn't mean the city of Babylon which figures so greatly in the Old Testament, though the code word was chosen precisely because of what ancient Babylon had done to the Jews--the Romans were doing likewise to Christians.
Likewise through INM thinking....18 years of Jesus' life does not appear in scripture. Does this mean he was born then vanished then came back to start his ministry? lol
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko,Pa,

How could Apostle Peter's remains be found in Rome if he was never assigned to preach in Rome but Apostle Paul??? As to the so-called remains of Apostle Peter found in Rome, even your popes do not believe in it:

But can this doctrine stand the test of biblical and historical scrutiny? Is there truth to the allegation that Peter was pope or that he was once bishop of Rome? Church historian Renwick gives us this historical finding:

“We may note, however, that there was no foundation for the claim of the Roman Church that Peter was bishop of Rome for twenty-five years from 42 to 67 A.D.”

Reference: Renwwick, A.M. The Story of the Church, pp. 14-15.

There is no historical evidence much less biblical basis, for the claim that Peter was once bishop of Rome. It is based only on legends. Author Loraine Boettner says in the book, Roman Catholicism:

“There is in fact no New Testament evidence, nor any historical proof of any kind, that Peter ever was in Rome. All rests on legend.”

Refrence: Boettner, Loraine. Roman Catholicism, p. 117. 90th printing. Phillipsburg: The Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Co., 1962.

It is sad to note that what the Catholic Church gives as the “best proof” in its claim of being the true church crumbles in the light of historical facts. At best, its claim concerning Peter is based only on legends. Any student of history worth his salt knows that testimonies based on traditions and legends are not reliable at all.

Stop believing in the lies of the Vaticdan Church!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#6 May 4, 2014
Iglesia_Ni_Dinuguan wrote:
Peter's remains were found in Rome! The apostles called Rome 'Babylon'... The term didn't mean the city of Babylon which figures so greatly in the Old Testament, though the code word was chosen precisely because of what ancient Babylon had done to the Jews--the Romans were doing likewise to Christians.
Likewise through INM thinking....18 years of Jesus' life does not appear in scripture. Does this mean he was born then vanished then came back to start his ministry? lol
Iglesia Kato Na, Liko Pa,

In spite of the concerted efforts, motivation, and promise of handsome reward from the Catholic Church, archaeologists have failed in finding decisive evidence to prove the claim that Peter was the first bishop of Rome or that, at least, he had reached this ancient city. And although there were some bones found in the diggings, these were of uncertain origin.

The pope himself, who is supposed to be a firm believer as he is the alleged successor of Peter, was skeptical that these “bones... were really those of... Peter.” In the magazine The Sunday Times, published on December 24, 1950, the Roman pontiff came out with an announcement:

“… the Pope announced officially the discovery of the tomb of Peter beneath the great Basilica which bears his name. But the Pope said that it was not possible to prove with certainly that the human bones found in the tomb were really those of Saint Peter.”

Reference: Sunday Times,“His Holiness sends Christmas message.” pp. 1- 2. December 24, 1950.

The Catholic faithful should ponder on this bold but honest-to-goodness admission from no less than the supreme head of the Catholic Church. At any rate, nobody can blame the pope for doubting the authenticity of the findings. The matter of apostolic succession upon which the papacy bases its authority has been a long standing controversy in the Catholic Church.

At the Vatican Council in 1870, the papacy's theory of apostolic succession came under fire from a high-ranking official of the Catholic Church, Bishop Strossmayer. He said in his speech before his fellow bishops:

“Now, having read the whole New Testament, I declare before God , with my hand raised to that great crucifix, that I have found no trace of the papacy as it exists at this moment.”

Reference: Bishop Strossmayer's Speech [in the Vatican Council of 1870, p. 4]. Reprinted from the Bible Treasury, No. 195, New York: Loizeaux Bros., 1872.

Bishop Strossmayer testified that there is no trace of the papacy in the New Testament. He was that certain that he made his testimony with a solemn oath. This coming from no ordinary authority of the Catholic Church.

Improve your very low Vatican-duped I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#7 May 12, 2014
If Roman Catholic popes are really successors of Peter, then, they should had behaved like him!!! But no, they are without good manners and right conduct!!! This prompted the United Nation to tell the Vatican State to submit the list of its criminal priests and bishops so that this could be submitted to every country in the world for police action!!!

Kudos to the United Nation!!! Bravo Zulu!!! Well Done!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#8 May 16, 2014
These popes who had been declared by the Vatican as saints allegedly did nothing useful to those Catholic faithfuls who died in the streets of Tacloban City!!! The Vatican instead of using the $20,000 and $30,000 beatification and canonization fees respectively for the good of the surviving Catholic faithfuls in Leyte, these were used and diverted to build large but useless statues and one of which later fell down on all-fours only to kill a Catholic and wound severely another in Northern Italy!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
I_am_Belisarius

Quezon, Philippines

#9 May 16, 2014
what are you complaining about? god's last messenger still holds a higher rank that saints, right? hehe...
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#10 May 25, 2014
I_am_Belisarius wrote:
what are you complaining about? god's last messenger still holds a higher rank that saints, right? hehe...
Beli Dancer,

Beatified and canonized Catholic saints have no rank at all if compared to biblical saints!!! The saints of the Bible have gained their stature through the pouring of Christ's blood on the cross but no beatification and canonization were involved!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
I_am_Belisarius

Quezon, Philippines

#11 May 25, 2014
that is not the the qualification for sainthood.
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#12 Jun 2, 2014
I_am_Belisarius wrote:
that is not the the qualification for sainthood.
Beli Dancer,

Those cleansed with the blood of Christ are the only ones qualified for sainthood!!! They qualified for such without beatification and canonization which are mere fabrications of the Roman Catholic Church!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#14 Jun 8, 2014
Isa pang paring Katoliko, si Raymond Brown, ay nagpahayag din na si Jesus ay hindi tinawag na Diyos sa mga Ebanghelyo Sinoptiko. Tunghayan natin ang mga isinasaad sa kanyang aklat na Jesus: God and Man:

“Si Jesus ay hindi kailanman tinawag na Diyos sa mga Ebanghelyo Sinoptiko, at ang isang talatang katulad ng Mar. 10:18 ay tila sinasarhan ang posibilidad na ginamit ni Jesus ang titulong iyon para sa Kaniyang sarili. Maging ang ikaapat na ebanghelyo (Juan) ay hindi kailanman inilarawan si Jesus na tiyakang nagsabi na Siya ay Diyos. Ang mga sermon sa Mga Gawa tungkol sa pasimula ng gawaing Cristiano ay hindi binabanggit si Jesus bilang Diyos. Kaya, walang dahilan upang isiping si Jesus ay tinawag na Diyos sa mga unang yugto ng tradisyon ng Bagong Tipan. Ang negatibong konklusyong ito ay pinatutunayan ng katotohanang hindi ginamit ni Pablo ang titulo sa alinman sa kaniyang mga epistola na naisulat bago ang taong 58 ...”

“Jesus is never called God in the Synoptic Gospels, and a passage like Mk. 10:18 would seem to preclude the possibility that Jesus used the title of himself. Even the fourth Gospel never portrays Jesus as saying specifically that he is God. The sermons which Acts attributes to the beginning of the Christian mission do not speak of Jesus as God. Thus, there is no reason that Jesus was called God in the earliest layers of the New Testament tradition. This negative conclusion is substantiated by the fact that Paul does not use the title in any epistle written before 58 ...”

Reference: Brown, Raymund F., Jesus: God and Man, p. 30. Milwaukee: The Bruce Publishing Company, n.d.

Naniwala rin ang paring Katoliko na si Raymond Brown na si Cristo ay Diyos, ngunit inamin niya na si Jesus ay hindi tinawag na Diyos sa mga Ebanghelyo Sinoptiko, kahit na sa ikaapat na Ebanghelyo, gayon din sa aklat ng Mga Gawa at maging sa mga epistola ni Apostol Pablo.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#15 Jun 12, 2014
Hindi lamang sa hanay ng mga paring Katoliko may pag-amin na hindi ipinahayag ng Bagong Tipan na si Cristo ay Diyos. Ganito rin ang natuklasan ng mga teologong Protestante. Tunghayan natin ang sinabi ni Allan Richardson sa kaniyang aklat na An Introduction to the Theology of the New Testament:

“Saanman sa Bagong Tipan ay walang tuwiran o tahasang binaggit na si Cristo ay Diyos...”

“The New Testament nowhere says tout court that Christ is God.”

Reference: Ricahrdson, Allan. An Introductioin to the Theology of the New Testament, p. 63. London, Great Britain: SLM Press Ltd., 1958.

Ayon kay Allan Richardson, isang teologong Protestante na naniwala rin na si Cristo ay Diyos, walang matutunghayan sa Bagong Tipan na si Cristo ay tinawag na Diyos.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#16 Jun 18, 2014
Ganito rin ang pag-amin ng isang tagapagturong Protestante na si John A.T. Robinson sa kaniyang sinulat na Honest To God:

“Sinabi ng Bagong Tipan na si Jesus ay ang Salita ng Diyos, sinasabi nito na ang Diyos ay na kay Cristo, at sinasabi nito na si si Jesus ay ang Anak ng Diyos; subalit hindi nito sinasabi na si Jesus ay Diyos ...”

“The New Testament says that Jesus was the Word of God, it says that God was in Christ, it says that Jesus is the Son of God; but it does not say that Jesus was God ...”

Reference: Robinson, John A.T. Honest To God, p. 70. London: SCM Press Ltd., 1963.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
pazuzu

Yigo, Guam

#17 Jun 18, 2014
eli ASS,

Don't hate congratulate!

The RCC has saints; INC has a sexual predator. Hahaha.
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#18 Jun 24, 2014
pazuzu wrote:
eli ASS,
Don't hate congratulate!
The RCC has saints; INC has a sexual predator. Hahaha.
Patsuptsup,

Stop fabricating!!! History shows that a Catholic pope had sex with all sorts of animals!!! Meanwhile, here's a list of some of the most nheinous crimes done by Roman Catholic popes:

”List of most evil crimes Type Year Crime Of repeated incest :(1316-1334) That Pope John XXII did commit repeated incest upon all his children, male and female and did father several illegitimate children by them. Of perverting the course of church justice (1334 CE) That Pope John XXII was charged by 37 clergy and witnesses of fornication, adultery, incest, sodomy, simony, theft and murder. Furthermore, that he was publicly called the devil incarnate. He has been called the most depraved criminal who ever sat on the papal throne. Of open depravity associated with the rape, murder and enslavement of Nuns as prostitiutes :(1316 – 1334) That Pope John XXII did maintain a convent in Boulogne of 200 girls which he regularly used in satanic rituals as well as a factory for making babies for sacrifice in satanic rituals. That Pope John XXII did also personally murder a number of these girls and nuns during and after sexual encounters as part of satanic rituals within cathedrals and the main churches of Christianity. Of publishing false statement (1316-1334): That Pope John XXII did actively promote further texts of demonology, Satanism and witchcraft across the Roman Catholic Church in a bid to recruit greater numbers of satanists. That in turn, these existence of these satanic works were then used in mock trials by the same priests and bishops to “prove” the existence of evil in their communities and aid in both Inquisition trials, and the murder of innocent women as witches. Of open depravity associated with cannibalism, sex and murder :(1316-1334) That Pope John XXII did open St Peters, St. Pauls Church and other major churches to regular acts of sexual orgies, ritualistic murder of children and cannibalism in the celebration of High Mass of Satanism of Christianity. Of publishing false statements :(1317/8) That Pope John XXII sanctions bull (Sane Considerante) allowing heresy charges to be brought against dead people.

Post 1...to be continued

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
INC - Iglesia ni Coitus

Hückelhoven, Germany

#19 Jun 24, 2014
pazuzu wrote:
eli ASS,
Don't hate congratulate!
The RCC has saints; INC has a sexual predator. Hahaha.
Some say that Felix Y. Manalo was raped by Rosita.
Others say that Felix Y. Manalo just misunderstood the message of spreading the faith of love.
Again others say that Felix´ heart beat between his legs.
ELIAS IBARRA

Yigo, Guam

#20 Jun 24, 2014
Post 2....End.

List of heinous Catholic crimes and criminal leaders:

That these false statements represent an unprecedented evil allowing for property to be confiscated upon charges against a dead person, unable to defend themselves. Huge amounts of property stolen by the church through this trickery. Of regular and institutional sodomy and murder of children :(1316-1334) That Pope John XXII did institute regular sodomy of children, especially young boys and did falsely claim as preceding Popes that these acts to be in the same tradition as the ancient Greeks. Furthermore, Pope John XXII did undertake such acts in major churches often including the ritualized murder of his child victims after such evil sex acts. Of moral indecency and depravity of the highest order :(1320) That Pope John XXII did instruct the French Inquisition to confiscate all property belonging to blasphemers or dabblers in black arts. Many thousands of innocent people burned in ritual satanic rituals by order of the Pope, a many who had actually done more wickedness and heresy in one lifetime than all his victims put together. Of publishing false statements :(1326) That Pope John XXII did falsely claim the existence of organized evil outside of the Vatican and the Catholic Church by claiming in a Papal Bull the reality of Witchcraft. Furthermore, that the Pontiff did use the same satanic documents released by previous Popes and himself as evidence to support his claim that witches exist across Europe. That he declares witches, specifically females who show any sign of intuitive medical knowledge or gifts of detecting lies as enemies of Christianity.”

End.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#21 Jun 29, 2014
Marahil ay nagulat kayo sa inyong natunghayan na ang mga nagtataguyod ng aral na si Cristo ay Diyos, mula sa hanay ng mga paring Katoliko hanggang sa mga tagapagturong Protestante, ay umamin na hindi matutunghayan sa Bagong Tipan na si Cristo ay tinawag na Diyos. Lalo kayong mamamangha kapag mapatunayan ninyo na hindi itinuro ng mga apostol na Diyos si Cristo. Ganito ang patotoo ng isang iskolar ng Biblia:

“Hindi tiyakang ipinahayag ni Apostol Pablo na si Jesus ay Diyos bagaman sinabi niya sa mga naakay niya sa Colosas na si Jesus ay ang 'larawan'('[image' o 'ikon') ng di-nakikitang Diyos …“

“Paul never specifically states that Jesus was God, though he told the converts in Colossae that Jesus was the 'image' or 'ikon' of the invisible God ...”

Reference: Wilson, A.N. Jesus: A Life, p. 20. New York: W.W. Norton & Company, In., 1992.
Sa pag-aaral ni A.N. Wilson sa buhay ng ating Panginoong Jesucristo, wala siyang nakita na tiyakang pahayag ni Apostol Pablo na si Cristo ay Diyos.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

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