New law points to Philippine church's waning sway

Jan 3, 2013 Full story: WHIO 14

An anti-abortion sign flashes on an electric signboard outside the Roman Catholic Minor Basilica of the Black Nazarene in downtown Manila, Philippines on Thursday, Jan.

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Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1 Jan 4, 2013
Any indication that the RCC is losing power is a reason to celebrate.
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#2 Jan 8, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Any indication that the RCC is losing power is a reason to celebrate.
cpeter1313,

You are absolutely correct!!! There are lots of indications!!! In Italy, they can't even pay their electric and heating bills!!!

All Catholics and Protestants must improve their low I.Q. now!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#3 Jan 8, 2013
An Italian weekly magazine, Sette, which boasts of a circulation reaching 483,000, vividly illustrated this rapid decline in Catholic members' enthusiasm in their religion. In an article written by Cesare Fiume in its April 5, 2012 issue, the publication made this observation:

"The number of Catholic marriages and that of priests and nuns are lessened (beaten). To bring religion to the members they must go to the malls ...Here is the 'spiritual X-ray' of Italy. The church was reopened Sunday for Palm Sunday, after months of closure. It was closed from Christmas and remained so until the day before yesterday--unless for some funeral host--due to lack of offerings. The alms were no longer enough to pay the bills for electricity and heating, so the pastor has barred the door ..."

The author likened the Catholic Church to a "candle that is consumed at the base," lamenting that the churches (are) empty, no more odor of frankincense ..." The magnitude of this problem is underscored by the fact that Italy is the seat of Catholicism---yet the "spiritual recession" among her adherents there is strikingly evident. This general atrophy in people's zeal for God is precisely the fulfillment of Christ's prophecy that in these last days, the love of many will grow cold.

Reference:(Cesare Fiume. Sette. April 5, 2012 issue)

This is a very funny development in the Catholic Church!!! And this is happening in the seat of Roman Catholicism!!!

All Catholics and Protestants must improve their low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#4 Jan 8, 2013
The author of the article, Mr. Cesare Sette, made a very damning statement just like others!!! He said that the Catholic Church is like a "candle that is consumed at the base". Just like the beatified and canonized saints who can't do anything for the faithfuls but are still advertized as peforming miracles and they could be seen in several places at the same time!!!

A "candle that is consumed at the base" is very similar to the low I.Q. that is not of value anymore!!! It is useless for there is no panacea for being mentally retarded except to accept the outcome!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#5 Jan 8, 2013
The Roman Catholic Church and the Protestant cults are into big trouble!!! These excerpts are stating their woes:

"The first decade of the 21st century is characterized by a "Great Religious Recession". Making matters worse, the economic recession in 2007 "did not drive people to religion; instead, it drove religion farther into irrelevance." (p. 82)

"In the United States for example, the Willow Creek Community Church---one of America's famous megachurches---"has suffered membership stagnation and a lack of enthusiasm among the faithful".(Ibid. p.73.)

"Even the Catholic Church has barely maintained its share of the population, mostly because immigrant Catholics offset the massive loss of U.S.-born members".(Ibid. p.20)

Reference:(Christianity After Religion: The End of Church and the Birth of New Spiritual Awakening, pp. 82, 73, 20.)

These are damning revelations depicting the sad status of the Roman Catholic Church ahd her daughter, the Protestant cults!!!

All Catholics and Protestants must now improve their low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#6 Jan 8, 2013
Part of the exerpts states as follows:

"The number of Catholic marriages and that of priests and nuns are lessened (beaten)".

Reference: Cesare Fiume. Sette. April 5, 2012 issue)

It is a known fact in Africa that Roman Catholic priests use nuns as safety condoms in order to avoid from being infected with H.I.V. which is a debilitating disease prevalent in the continent!!! Now, with the reduction of Catholic nuns, what would be the options for the sexually perverted clergy??? Would children be the cynosure of their eyes this time???

A WARNING TO THE PUBLIC: DO NOT LET YOUR CHLDREN COME NEAR CATHOLIC PRIESTS!!! DO NOT TAKE CHANCES!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Lol

San Francisco, CA

#7 Jan 8, 2013
God is the most powerful not INC. Just preach the words of God Elias, and you will reach the kingdom of God.
Ocean56

AOL

#8 Jan 8, 2013
Lol wrote:
God is the most powerful not INC. Just preach the words of God Elias, and you will reach the kingdom of God.
You're free to BELIEVE whatever you want. Just don't expect or demand that everyone "should" share your beliefs.

Personally, I don't believe in your God. And I hope the Catholic Church will LOSE power with a vast majority of the world population and one day be forced to close its doors due to lack of money to operate.
Lol

San Francisco, CA

#9 Jan 8, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're free to BELIEVE whatever you want. Just don't expect or demand that everyone "should" share your beliefs.
Personally, I don't believe in your God. And I hope the Catholic Church will LOSE power with a vast majority of the world population and one day be forced to close its doors due to lack of money to operate.
That's your right. Money is not our God, when one door closes, another door will open for us believer in God that no man can close.

God is powerful!
Jose Loca

Quezon City, Philippines

#10 Jan 8, 2013
Doors in Hell have never been shut, it will remain open for the millions of evil-doers and was made for them exclusively.
amc

Quezon City, Philippines

#11 Jan 8, 2013
Jose Loca wrote:
Doors in Hell have never been shut, it will remain open for the millions of evil-doers and was made for them exclusively.
neither heaven nor hell is any part of the church.

the church is whats under attack and rightfully so.

if you need a church to be a good catholic than youve already got your seat in hell.

Since: Apr 09

Olongapo City, Philippines

#12 Jan 9, 2013
amc wrote:
<quoted text>
neither heaven nor hell is any part of the church.
the church is whats under attack and rightfully so.
if you need a church to be a good catholic than youve already got your seat in hell.
What they don't grasp is the Church is an institution. It is not GOD!!!
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#13 Jan 12, 2013
The public should take notice that the church was closed "due to lack of offerings"!!! The "alms for the beggar and spurious church" were no longer enough to pay the bills for electricity and heating, so the pastor has barred the door ..."!!! Now, the questions are these:

1a. What happened to the money resutlting from the landgrabbing or the expropriation of properties not owned by the Roman Catholic Church??? History attests that the Catholic Church had employed landgrabbing as a means to enrich the Vatican coffer:

"Pagan temples were either closed, transformed into Christian shrines or demolished. Their properties were summarily added to the Church's patrimony. The wealth of sundry religions was mercilessly expropriated, their clergy dismissed or persecuted, when not civilly or even physically obliterated. The transfer of political might made an easy transition into acquisitional power, the Roman Catholic Church set in earnest to promote a policy of swift appropriation of real estae, of highly renumerative governmental posts, and even of speculative monetary and commercial enterprises."

Reference:(The Vatican Billions, p.21)

1b. What happened to the money given to the church after officiating Masses for the dead clergy of the sundry religions who were physically obliterated or murdered???

1.c. What happened to the money resulting from the Catholic Church's speculative monetary and commercial enterprises???

Low I.Q. Catholics must explain including those who have studied theology for several years but without understanding their fabrication known as the Holy Trinity!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Ocean56

AOL

#14 Jan 12, 2013
Lol wrote:
That's your right. Money is not our God, when one door closes, another door will open for us believer in God that no man can close.
God is powerful!
You can believe whatever nonsense you want, dude. Thank goodness I'm not forced to believe the same idiocy you do.

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