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Dec 20, 2007

The Vatican condemns The Golden Compass

Daniel Craig, Nicole Kidman, Dakota Bue Richards and Eva Green arrive at the world premiere of The Golden Compass at the Odeon Leicester Square November 27, 2007 in London, England. via CW West Palm

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“The free grace of God”

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Dec 20, 2007
 
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First two weeks, "Compass" took in approx. only
one-third of the take "Narnia" made !
The American public is disinterested in trendy fad
heathen propaganda movies.

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vox reformata !

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Dec 20, 2007
 
De Didly dum dum.

“SOS-USA is in distress ”

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Dec 20, 2007
 
pope is a dope... I know some elem kids who love the book and can't understand what adults are upset about. Screw the pope.. he has no family or kids... what the fudge does he know??

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Dec 20, 2007
 
Coolmind wrote:
pope is a dope... I know some elem kids who love the book and can't understand what adults are upset about. Screw the pope.. he has no family or kids... what the fudge does he know??
I've always suspected you were still in school!

Come back when/if you graduate

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“The free grace of God”

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Dec 20, 2007
 
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"I know some
elem kids who
love the book
and can't
understand
what adults
are upset
about"

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Your premise would seem to be 'Kids know best'.

Reminds Bro. Rat of the old quip: "Ask you
children questions now while they still know
everything !".

By your paradigm kids would be raising themselves.

You'll excuse us if we don't trust completely in
the discernment of elementary school children.

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The DataRat

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#6
Dec 20, 2007
 
It makes little sense. By condemning the movie the Pope is indirectly saying that the books attack the Catholic church.
I've read the first two books. It's all fantasy. Because they use certain terms that could possibly be connected to the church doesn't mean that the books are condemning the church. The books use many other terms that refer to other present groups indirectly, you don't hear these groups crying about being attacked.
The Pope is himself creating his own problem. Sometimes having an enemy, even if imaginary, helps one muster the troops for a fight against enemy that doesn't really exist. It's a question of power.

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Dec 20, 2007
 
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'I've read
the first
two books.
It's all
fantasy."

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The movie promotes paganism... fantasy or not.

Mr. Fart giving it ~his~ nihil obstat is all
the more reason to view it as aberrant !

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Dec 20, 2007
 
Coolmind wrote:
pope is a dope... I know some elem kids who love the book and can't understand what adults are upset about. Screw the pope.. he has no family or kids... what the fudge does he know??
A helluva lot more than you do, young lady. At least he doesn't sit on the internet encouraging people to do inane things that are mindless and without merit, like masturbation as you have.

He's a highly degreed man and he does plenty to help and benefit the world. He's been through trials and tribulations in his life which you will never know or experience (hopefully).

Tell me, what school did you attend or what knocks in life have you gone through that have brought you to this highest pinnacle in life that you sit on the internet bashing the Pope and telling people to masturbate to their hearts delight? Am I supposed to be impressed? I'm not! I only feel pity for you.

“He's 3 1/2 lbs. of fury!!!”

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Dec 20, 2007
 
Did anyone at the vatican view the movie?

“He's 3 1/2 lbs. of fury!!!”

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Dec 20, 2007
 
I would think the vatican had better things to worry about...like the CATHOLIC priests who like little boys TOO much...
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Dec 20, 2007
 
If people say that they are enjoying the book as a fantasy then why not just believe them?

It's just self-aggrandizement to force your opinion of the book down other people's throats. It also looks pathetic to people of a more sympathetic mindset.

I read it as a fantasy and enjoyed it as such. If you didn't then good for you.

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Dec 20, 2007
 
The concept that the Vatican would even bother to comment on this movie is ludicrous.

Anyone who actually feels threatened by this film has a problem.

Don't see it or take your kids to it if you don't want to. Given the long list of legitimate problems needing support in this world it amazes me that a fantasy movie gets this much attention.
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Dec 21, 2007
 
Great....more culture war BS. No one wins these.

Don't like the movie? Don't watch it. But don't throw your views at others and expect them to not have their own views.

I got Christmas presents to buy, classes to teach, and a 9 to 5. Time to see movies is just not available. Maybe when it hits Blockbuster shelves I'll rent it.

It's fiction. Not reality. I'll appreciate it as such.

As for the Pope, he's entitled to his opinions. But the over-sensitivity of the church is not becoming.
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Dec 21, 2007
 
Your premise would seem to be 'Kids know best'.
Reminds Bro. Rat of the old quip: "Ask you
children questions now while they still know
everything !".
By your paradigm kids would be raising themselves.
You'll excuse us if we don't trust completely in
the discernment of elementary school children.
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You're reaching here Rat. She did not say kids should raise themselves. She said kids have read the book or had it read to them and found it entertaining.
Plus the Pope giving family advice is a bit ridiculous. Experience is a better teacher than theology. Best source for parenting ideas and advice is other parents.
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Dec 21, 2007
 
It isn't about the movie. It's about the author, and his statement that he wants to kill God in the eyes of children. Christians are not going to go see a movie, knowing that some of the profits will go to a man such as this. Who cares if the movie was toned down to suit the producers, it's about the author and his aethiest beliefs. It's a box office bomb and rightly so.
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Dec 21, 2007
 
Anybody who believes a thing that comes out of the Vatican belongs on the funny farm.

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Dec 21, 2007
 
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"You're reaching
here Rat. She did
not say kids should
raise themselves.
She said kids have
read the book or
had it read to them
and found it
entertaining."

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In context of the discussion regarding the paganism
of the movie, she was setting kids up as the final
authority.

You'll recall her very next sentence was what-does-
the-pope-know. So, she clearly contrasted kid's
opinions vs. adult opinions. And children find it
"entertaining" counteracts any objection a grown-up
might have !

Raticus is no fan of the Pope. But neither can we
allow children to have the final say on what they
read and view.

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Your Pal,

The DataRat

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Dec 21, 2007
 
The movie is an atack against Catholicism. And against God as well. I'm glad the Vatican is flexing its muscles, this will KILL any hopes of this movie or any successive ones of being profitable. Thank God we still have some real men in the world. God bless the Pope!

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Dec 21, 2007
 
Jose wrote:
The movie is an atack against Catholicism. And against God as well. I'm glad the Vatican is flexing its muscles, this will KILL any hopes of this movie or any successive ones of being profitable. Thank God we still have some real men in the world. God bless the Pope!
YOU MUST BE KIDDING

I CANT THINK OF ANYONE LESS RELEVANT OR IMPORTANT THAN THE POPE.(What a huge bag of Flatulence)

DOES ANYONE GIVE A CRAP WHAT THIS IDIOT BABBLES ON ABOUT.

Thier time of spreading hate & fear is drawing to an end so now they shout a little louder than they used to.

That's because they still wish they could Murder everyone that does not agree with them!
(like they used to)

BTW- I can not wait until the new movie from the maker of Borat comes out -June 12th
Its a partnership & co-directed by HBO's Bill Maher.

The name is going to be -Religulous

They where going to release it on Easter Sunday !
But completion schedules will not allow
(Such A Shame)

A movie for all of us sick of the blind stupidity sickness known as religion!

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Dec 21, 2007
 
Crance wrote:
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I've always suspected you were still in school!
Come back when/if you graduate
Peace
What should this person graduate to?

A person that actually thinks the Pope's words amount to anything or that he is worth a second of anyones time ?

He is a huge freakazoid with a big hat !
Who cares what offends him

SHUT UP- Your Asshoillyness !!

If I was listening to him talk in a crowd I would wait for a pause of silence & then let a huge fart rip ! As his words are all just flatulence any way!

THE POPE - Please !
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