Loves Raymond, Hates Stem Cells

Loves Raymond, Hates Stem Cells

There are 31 comments on the Wired News story from Oct 24, 2006, titled Loves Raymond, Hates Stem Cells. In it, Wired News reports that:

'Jesus Christ,' 'Raymond' Wife Take on Stem Cells Topic: Stem Cells I don't know about you, but when it comes to stem-cell research, I rely entirely on the expert opinions of celebrities.

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Bill Trapnell

AOL

#1 Oct 26, 2006
I cannot believe Patricia Heaton would find it necessary to go on television to counter the political ads by Michael J. Fox regarding stem cell research. What we have here is another Tom Cruise apparently......telling America that she knows more than research scientists about stem cell research. Does Patricia Heaton have an incurable disease which might encourage her to press for scientific procedures that might end her suffering????? In no way should PURE POLITICS be made the basis for participating in a discussion of such an EXTREMELY SERIOUS NATURE. She is typical of republicans who put their party and THEIR PERSONAL religious beliefs ahead of anything else.....the country or deserving individuals. She should be ashamed of herself. I will definitely watch reruns of Raymond much less frequently and will never feel the same about Patricia ever. To think that she would spit in Michael J. Fox's face as she has done, is way too much to accept or believe!
Bill Cooney

United States

#2 Oct 26, 2006
Wouldn't it be ironic if stem cell research led to a cure for autism?
dave c

Honolulu, HI

#3 Oct 26, 2006
she s just another jerk that was overpaid and now can save the world but putting her 2 cents into something she claims to be an expert on just she was on raymond the show would never have missed her
Smarter

Gilbert, AZ

#4 Oct 26, 2006
Bill Trapnell wrote:
I cannot believe Patricia Heaton would find it necessary to go on television to counter the political ads by Michael J. Fox regarding stem cell research. What we have here is another Tom Cruise apparently......telling America that she knows more than research scientists about stem cell research. Does Patricia Heaton have an incurable disease which might encourage her to press for scientific procedures that might end her suffering????? In no way should PURE POLITICS be made the basis for participating in a discussion of such an EXTREMELY SERIOUS NATURE. She is typical of republicans who put their party and THEIR PERSONAL religious beliefs ahead of anything else.....the country or deserving individuals. She should be ashamed of herself. I will definitely watch reruns of Raymond much less frequently and will never feel the same about Patricia ever. To think that she would spit in Michael J. Fox's face as she has done, is way too much to accept or believe!
Are you all a bunch of idiot? It is STEM cell research that she is opposed to. And do your homework before you make a post or you just look uneducated. Religious beliefs aside, embryonic stem cells have cured asbolutely nothing thus far and yet adult stem cells have shown potential cures and actual cures in numerous areas. It is astounding to me that people can't make this distinction. Good for Patricia - she is doing the right thing a world where the ends justifies the means. Parkinsons disease IS a horrible disease and people shouldn't be made to suffer needlessly. Keep your eyes on the ball and don't draw similarities between Tom Cruise who is an idiot and just makes stupid remarks because he doesn't know better and Patricia Heaton who has done her research and is supporting the correct side of an difficult issue.
Liz

AOL

#5 Oct 26, 2006
Smarter wrote:
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Are you all a bunch of idiot? It is STEM cell research that she is opposed to. And do your homework before you make a post or you just look uneducated. Religious beliefs aside, embryonic stem cells have cured asbolutely nothing thus far and yet adult stem cells have shown potential cures and actual cures in numerous areas. It is astounding to me that people can't make this distinction. Good for Patricia - she is doing the right thing a world where the ends justifies the means. Parkinsons disease IS a horrible disease and people shouldn't be made to suffer needlessly. Keep your eyes on the ball and don't draw similarities between Tom Cruise who is an idiot and just makes stupid remarks because he doesn't know better and Patricia Heaton who has done her research and is supporting the correct side of an difficult issue.
I am THRILLED! There are thousands that agree WITH you! You go girl!!!!!!!!!!
Tim

AOL

#6 Oct 27, 2006
Patricia Heaton is a fear monger. Why is it that some people push hope in order to resolve issues while others attempt to pray on the fear factor. Such a negative view on life. We have to feel sorry for her.
Bob

Raleigh, NC

#7 Oct 27, 2006
Are any of you scientists? You all probably benefit from the work of scientists every day, yet you almost certainly don't understand the complex biochemical mechanisms and processes involved in pharmaceuticals and gene therapy. Could you pass an advanced graduate biochemistry exam if one was handed to you? What about a physiology exam? We all cling to our comfortable opinions, but only an extraordinarily small percentage of the population can base their opinions on something more concrete (my opinion on the research will be undisclosed as to not construe my point.) Well educated opinions on either side are needed, and you shouldn't make your opinions from google, AOL, major news presentations, or from what your parents and friends think. Try using your library or journal sources, which is based on the university method. Weigh both the advantages and disadvantages of the research (and actually be able to recite them) before having a strong opinion. This is also known in philosophy as "critical thinking."
Jenny

AOL

#8 Oct 27, 2006
What a hypocrite Patricia Heaton is--believe me--if she or a member of her family had a horrible disease that could be cured by stem cell research--she'd be all for it. She is trying to push her religeous beliefs on all of us--hey Patricia, I don't like nor believe your religeous beliefs--why should I live with them? If you don't like abortion or anything that goes with it--don't have one--but we should be able to have freedom of choice--not of the catholic cult's choice. You make me ashamed to be a member of the same sex--shame on you--and by the way--guess it's ok for you as a celebrity to voice your opinion--just not if it's for some Democratic view--what are those sports figures doing in a commercial like that anyhow--they are men--and should have nothing to say what a woman does with her body--that's between a woman and her God--we don't need people like you to tell us what to do.
Ray Romano

United States

#9 Oct 27, 2006
I used to think she was ok but now I think of her as just another sanctimonious, rightwing shitbag. I think all that plastic surgery has gone to her head. I wish we'd picked another actor for the role of my wife now. Go get another body lift... you need it!

Hope you get Parkinsons's, bitch.
denise

Coraopolis, PA

#10 Oct 27, 2006
HEAVEN HELP US IF WE CANNOT AFFORD TO SPEND
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON MEDICAL RESEARCH.
if we could only end the war in iraq the
United States may be able to do some good
things here. For Americans.
connie

AOL

#11 Oct 27, 2006
Shame on you Patricia, I would luv to see what you would say if one of your children were in a wheelchair with a spinal cord injury. We need to continue with the stem cell research no matter if the cells are embryonic or adult cells. For all of you who disagree with the research you are not reading enough. There has been progress in the lab.
who is the hypocrite

Toronto, Canada

#12 Oct 27, 2006
How can you call Patricia a hypcrite for trying to "push her religious beleifs on all of us" and tell us that we should all have "the freedom of choice" when you right now are condemning her for voicing her opinion. Since when was making a commercial considered pushing your religious beleifs when she made NO MENTION of her religion in the ad? Why aren't you criticising all the other people in the commercial and using the Christian as the scapegoat? So in response to your post, we dont need people like YOU telling us what to do. Thank you very much.
Jenny wrote:
What a hypocrite Patricia Heaton is--believe me--if she or a member of her family had a horrible disease that could be cured by stem cell research--she'd be all for it. She is trying to push her religeous beliefs on all of us--hey Patricia, I don't like nor believe your religeous beliefs--why should I live with them? If you don't like abortion or anything that goes with it--don't have one--but we should be able to have freedom of choice--not of the catholic cult's choice. You make me ashamed to be a member of the same sex--shame on you--and by the way--guess it's ok for you as a celebrity to voice your opinion--just not if it's for some Democratic view--what are those sports figures doing in a commercial like that anyhow--they are men--and should have nothing to say what a woman does with her body--that's between a woman and her God--we don't need people like you to tell us what to do.
rittel

Toronto, Canada

#13 Oct 27, 2006
what kind of person hopes parkinson's on another person because they have an opinion? heres a taste of your own medicine - hope YOU get parkinsons, bitch.
Ray Romano wrote:
I used to think she was ok but now I think of her as just another sanctimonious, rightwing shitbag. I think all that plastic surgery has gone to her head. I wish we'd picked another actor for the role of my wife now. Go get another body lift... you need it!
Hope you get Parkinsons's, bitch.
erin

Woburn, MA

#14 Oct 30, 2006
unfortunately we live in a world where people hang on a celebrities every word. some celebrities just like to go off at the mouth because his/her show is off the air and needs to get some air time so no one forgets who they are.

hopefully anyone with a loved one who has a disease such as parkinson's (like myself) or knows someone who had a spinal cord injury, etc. would support stem cell research despite any celebrities rants.
Mike B

Towson, MD

#15 Nov 5, 2006
Bill Trapnell wrote:
I cannot believe Patricia Heaton would find it necessary to go on television to counter the political ads by Michael J. Fox regarding stem cell research. What we have here is another Tom Cruise apparently......telling America that she knows more than research scientists about stem cell research. Does Patricia Heaton have an incurable disease which might encourage her to press for scientific procedures that might end her suffering????? In no way should PURE POLITICS be made the basis for participating in a discussion of such an EXTREMELY SERIOUS NATURE. She is typical of republicans who put their party and THEIR PERSONAL religious beliefs ahead of anything else.....the country or deserving individuals. She should be ashamed of herself. I will definitely watch reruns of Raymond much less frequently and will never feel the same about Patricia ever. To think that she would spit in Michael J. Fox's face as she has done, is way too much to accept or believe!
What an awful women. She pretends to be concerned with the poor somen that would sell their eggs and attempts to win over the middle income vote. She should be ashamed of herself. Make no mistake people she is a RELIGIOUS REPUBLICAN therefor she cannot be trusted. Vote yes to stem cell research!!!!!!
rarray

AOL

#16 Nov 14, 2006
Believe you're a one-person "bunch of idiot."

"Are you all a bunch of idiot?"
Smarter wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you all a bunch of idiot? It is STEM cell research that she is opposed to. And do your homework before you make a post or you just look uneducated. Religious beliefs aside, embryonic stem cells have cured asbolutely nothing thus far and yet adult stem cells have shown potential cures and actual cures in numerous areas. It is astounding to me that people can't make this distinction. Good for Patricia - she is doing the right thing a world where the ends justifies the means. Parkinsons disease IS a horrible disease and people shouldn't be made to suffer needlessly. Keep your eyes on the ball and don't draw similarities between Tom Cruise who is an idiot and just makes stupid remarks because he doesn't know better and Patricia Heaton who has done her research and is supporting the correct side of an difficult issue.
Meredith

Opp, AL

#17 Nov 19, 2006
Why do you guys think religious Republicans can't express their views on political issues or can't make smart and right decisions? I've done my research on embryonic stem cell research, and I've watched Patty's ad. She never said a word about Michael J. Fox. The ad wasn't against him, it was against the amendment. Also, all of you need to make the distinction between adult stem cell research and embryonic stem cell research. There has been amazing progress with adult stem cells, and they are actually beginning successful therapies to help people with these diseases using adult stem cells. However, scientists have not managed to make any progress with embryonic stem cells, yet they insist that this research will eventually lead somewhere. Honestly, that amendment should fund adult stem cell research instead of throwing away so much money on research that could never go anywhere.

Not only that, but embryonic stem cell research can also involve therapeutic cloning, which deliberately creates an embryo only to destroy it during research. Basically, not only does this exploit human life, it also reduces it to a commodity that can be created and thrown away on a whim. Maybe the liberals need to do their research before they complain about conservatives. A lot of you are just spouting off at the mouth without any idea of what you are talking about.
Sue

Falling Waters, WV

#18 Nov 20, 2006
Meredith wrote:
Why do you guys think religious Republicans can't express their views on political issues or can't make smart and right decisions? I've done my research on embryonic stem cell research, and I've watched Patty's ad. She never said a word about Michael J. Fox. The ad wasn't against him, it was against the amendment. Also, all of you need to make the distinction between adult stem cell research and embryonic stem cell research. There has been amazing progress with adult stem cells, and they are actually beginning successful therapies to help people with these diseases using adult stem cells. However, scientists have not managed to make any progress with embryonic stem cells, yet they insist that this research will eventually lead somewhere. Honestly, that amendment should fund adult stem cell research instead of throwing away so much money on research that could never go anywhere.
Not only that, but embryonic stem cell research can also involve therapeutic cloning, which deliberately creates an embryo only to destroy it during research. Basically, not only does this exploit human life, it also reduces it to a commodity that can be created and thrown away on a whim. Maybe the liberals need to do their research before they complain about conservatives. A lot of you are just spouting off at the mouth without any idea of what you are talking about.
If you're truly interested in researching this topic, I've posted a number of links to articles discussing both types of stem cell research. Check the thread "Limbaugh criticizes Fox". One of the arguments you make above is that ESC research has produced no cures in the 8 years since it began. Penicillin was discovered in 1928. The first time it was successfully used to treat a patient was in 1940. Research takes time. Also, there are only 9 diseases for which treatment with ASC have been appoved.
Meredith

Opp, AL

#19 Nov 20, 2006
I'm not saying that embryonic stem cell research won't ever lead anywhere. I just meant that instead of putting even more government money into that research, to give more for adult stem cell research and create as many cures as possible from them. It's not like I agree with embryonic stem cell research. I think it's wrong and destroys possible human life, but that's just my opinion. I just feel that it's better to pursue research that has been successful than to continue to butt our heads against a wall.
Sue

Falling Waters, WV

#20 Nov 21, 2006
Meredith wrote:
I'm not saying that embryonic stem cell research won't ever lead anywhere. I just meant that instead of putting even more government money into that research, to give more for adult stem cell research and create as many cures as possible from them. It's not like I agree with embryonic stem cell research. I think it's wrong and destroys possible human life, but that's just my opinion. I just feel that it's better to pursue research that has been successful than to continue to butt our heads against a wall.
Researchers are not "butting heads against a wall", and you'd be aware of that if you had read the articles posted. Obviously, since you believe that embryonic stem cell research destroys a potential life, it wouldn't matter to you if the research was able to cure every disease known to mankind and bring about world peace, so don't pretend otherwise. The potential of ESC research is not what you're really disputing--it's the ethical issues surrounding this research. That's fine, but at least be honest.

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