Charge dropped in Orlando case of homeless feedings

Full story: Orlando Sentinel

A federal judge ruled Thursday that the city of Orlando isn't violating a street preacher's religious freedom by restricting his ability to feed the homeless in Langford Park.
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Maxfield

Plymouth, MN

#2 Jun 27, 2008
A victory for the homeless and charitable groups. Read it and weep Patty Sheman. Your spoiled brats in the towering condos are out of luck.
Sidney

Sanford, FL

#3 Jun 27, 2008
No, Stupid. A victory for the City and its TAXPAYING citizens who actually pay for the park. Last I looked, dirtbaggs don't pay taxes and do nothing but leech off of those who do.
The City has provided a place for them to get their free meals, it just isn't in the park. Big deal.
The last thing a TAXPAYING family needs is to see some dirtmonger taking a whiz in the bushes or being accosted by some wino.
I hope all of the lawsuits are tossed. A victory for decent, taxpaying citizens.
Citizen of the world

Sanford, FL

#4 Jun 27, 2008
You call yourself a decent citizen, and yet you attack those you know nothing about. Interesting. And just so you know, not everyone who goes to these feedings are homeless. Some have jobs, but are struggling too much to be able to eat every day.

I'm a tax-paying citizen, and I'd much rather my tax dollars go to something worthy than continue to go towards a pointless war that is bankrupting this country.

Must be nice to have such a strong feeling of entitlement. Must be nice to sit in your castle and judge the little people.

Every person on this planet deserves to be treated as a human. We all deserve the basic necessities of life, rich or poor.
Jo Mama

United States

#5 Jun 27, 2008
Sidney, This isn't about getting tax dollars to feed anyone. It's about every citizen's (and tourist's) right to use public property.

You want socialism (public parks) until socialism impedes your fairy tale view then you want capitalism (you get in the park if you pay.) You're not being logical.
maxfield

Orange City, FL

#6 Jun 27, 2008
Any large city has homeless people that hang out in parks. (New York, Pgh, Cinncinati, Chicago to name the ones I have been to). Since the people here in Orlando want to live in a world class city they better get use to world class problems. Agree with Citizen of the World. We are all one paycheck away from eating in the park. When you are in the park with your kids and you see a person down on their luck, how about teaching your kids compassion for the less fortunate. It could be you.

“ja sagte ich das :)”

Since: May 08

jackson purchase area

#7 Jun 27, 2008
maxfield wrote:
Any large city has homeless people that hang out in parks.(New York, Pgh, Cinncinati, Chicago to name the ones I have been to). Since the people here in Orlando want to live in a world class city they better get use to world class problems. Agree with Citizen of the World. We are all one paycheck away from eating in the park. When you are in the park with your kids and you see a person down on their luck, how about teaching your kids compassion for the less fortunate. It could be you.
amen
we ALWAYS feed/give a few $$ to ANYONE we see needy.my child has given her last 5$ to a homeless man.
if thats one thing i have taught them its to HELP YOUR FELLOW MAN.
Vote Ron Paul 2008

Union City, CA

#8 Jun 27, 2008
Michelle Obama: He'll fight for LGBTs
published Friday, June 27, 2008
Barack Obama will fight for equal rights for gays just as he fought to help working-class families overcome poverty, the Democratic presidential hopeful's wife told a gay Democratic group.
Recalling his past work as a community organizer to help struggling families, Michelle Obama said he would take the same approach as president.

"Barack believes that we must fight for the world as it should be, a world where together we work to reverse discriminatory laws," she said Thursday at a Manhattan fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee's Gay and Lesbian Leadership Council.

Michelle Obama also drew a connection between the struggles for gay rights and civil rights.

"We are all only here because of those who marched and bled and died, from Selma to Stonewall, in the pursuit of a more perfect union," she said at the event, held days before the anniversary of the 1969 Stonewall riots between gays and New York police, and the city's annual gay Pride parade.

"The world as it is should be, one that rejects discrimination of all kinds," she said.

Touting her husband's record pushing for workplace discrimination legislation as an Illinois state senator and his support of civil unions, Obama noted her husband also had brought a call for equality to conservative groups, telling churchgoers they need to combat homophobia in the black community.

Then you have this..

Obama: Marriage = one man, one woman
published Friday, June 20, 2008
The general election has begun in earnest. Sen. Barack Obama launched his first general-election ad in 18 states Thursday and spent much of the week tailoring his image to all those independents who may still find themselves torn between himself and Sen. John McCain.
Politico.com broke a story Wednesday that two Muslim women wearing head scarves were prohibited from sitting behind Obama at a rally, so as to prevent any unintended photo ops. The campaign issued a statement and contacted the women to apologize, but the message was clear: Obama can't afford to seem too outside the mainstream.

That sentiment also surfaced this week when during an interview with ABC's Jake Tapper, Obama uttered the words so cunningly crafted by the Christian right: Marriage is between a man and a woman.

More precisely, Sen. Obama said, "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman," shortly after being asked if he opposed same-sex marriage, to which he responded, "Yes."

This positioning is not new for Obama. He has uttered those words plenty -- during a debate with Alan Keyes in 2004, on the Senate floor in 2006, even in his 2007 Human Rights Campaign candidate questionnaire.

But if LGBT people across the country bristled at the "one-man, one-woman" construction, they can be forgiven. After scouring the web, drawing upon memory and scanning my notes, this reporter cannot remember the senator using those words during the entire primary season from January right through until Sen. Hillary Clinton conceded the race June 7.
maxfield

Orange City, FL

#9 Jun 27, 2008
DanaBartonish wrote:
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amen
we ALWAYS feed/give a few $$ to ANYONE we see needy.my child has given her last 5$ to a homeless man.
if thats one thing i have taught them its to HELP YOUR FELLOW MAN.
That is great to see parents who still care about instilling values in their children. The world will be a better place when people learn to value other human beings and not judge them by their circumstances. I taught my children to help the less fortunate and as adults, they still help people down on their luck. It doesn't hurt to be nice.
Reality

Mumbai, India

#10 Jun 27, 2008
Maxfield wrote:
A victory for the homeless and charitable groups. Read it and weep Patty Sheman. Your spoiled brats in the towering condos are out of luck.
Great, now the homeless can come into downtown, do nothing, stink, urinate on everything and beg for money. Doesn't make sense when a perfectly good shelter that provides food, water and bed in located a mile away in Parramore. Another perfectly good resource wasted.

Hey knuckle head, at least you should check the spelling of Patti's last name before taking a shot at her.

“ja sagte ich das :)”

Since: May 08

jackson purchase area

#11 Jun 27, 2008
Reality wrote:
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Great, now the homeless can come into downtown, do nothing, stink, urinate on everything and beg for money. Doesn't make sense when a perfectly good shelter that provides food, water and bed in located a mile away in Parramore. Another perfectly good resource wasted.
Hey knuckle head, at least you should check the spelling of Patti's last name before taking a shot at her.
arent you aware that most shelters are always full at bedtime?
do you even care that people in america are eating from trashcans?
famlies sleeping in cars or boxes?
do you even care?
i wonder if anyone cares anymore.
oneday that could be you or someone you love eating from a dumpster.remember that.

“ja sagte ich das :)”

Since: May 08

jackson purchase area

#12 Jun 27, 2008
maxfield wrote:
<quoted text>That is great to see parents who still care about instilling values in their children. The world will be a better place when people learn to value other human beings and not judge them by their circumstances. I taught my children to help the less fortunate and as adults, they still help people down on their luck. It doesn't hurt to be nice.
i feel its always better in the long run to be nice because what can one gain from being mean and sour-nothing.
i feel great joy in giving as do my children.
its a feeling that one cannot describe other than pure happiness.
Phil Paunxitauney

Sebastian, FL

#13 Jun 27, 2008
Many of the preceeding comments show that the city beautiful should be called the city heartless.Many of the homeless are vets'according to several studies done by the feds and veterans groups,so I guess it's ok to fight for our freedom to waste gas and buy stuff but not to be fed in the glitsy parks.Remember:"there but the grace of god go YOU".Shows what good christians there are.
Oh Please

United States

#14 Jun 27, 2008
DanaBartonish wrote:
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arent you aware that most shelters are always full at bedtime?
do you even care that people in america are eating from trashcans?
famlies sleeping in cars or boxes?
do you even care?
i wonder if anyone cares anymore.
oneday that could be you or someone you love eating from a dumpster.remember that.
But why feed them in a park?
That is the only question.
Why in a park?
Why not in a shelter?
Why not in a place where they can be protected?
Why does it have to be in a public place?
Oh Please

United States

#15 Jun 27, 2008
Phil Paunxitauney wrote:
Many of the preceeding comments show that the city beautiful should be called the city heartless.Many of the homeless are vets'according to several studies done by the feds and veterans groups,so I guess it's ok to fight for our freedom to waste gas and buy stuff but not to be fed in the glitsy parks.Remember:"there but the grace of god go YOU".Shows what good christians there are.
Do you even realize how many places there are for them to go already?
Oh Please

United States

#16 Jun 27, 2008
Maxfield wrote:
A victory for the homeless and charitable groups. Read it and weep Patty Sheman. Your spoiled brats in the towering condos are out of luck.
They lost. Perhaps you misread.

“ja sagte ich das :)”

Since: May 08

jackson purchase area

#17 Jun 27, 2008
Oh Please wrote:
<quoted text>
But why feed them in a park?
That is the only question.
Why in a park?
Why not in a shelter?
Why not in a place where they can be protected?
Why does it have to be in a public place?
shelters are over run
pantries and soup kitchens are emptied soon
there the meals on wheels program is shutting down because of fuel.
it isnt that easy to just"find a place to go"
you dont know this until you have been homeless.
about 20 years ago i was,and it was hard i cannot imagine how it would be now as hard as times are.
sad sad situation.
as far as feeding someone who cares where it is as long as the person gets a meal?
meto

Port Orange, FL

#21 Jun 28, 2008
Amazing all this over people wanting to help those less fortunate. Better take a look around city hall, more and more of your citizens are struggling.
Jo Mama

United States

#24 Jun 29, 2008
FOS wrote:
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Ben Markeson, you're so full of s--- and illogical. You are an anarchist and have absolutely no respect for authority; not even a federal judge. Out with you and your organization. I'm glad you lost!
HAAAA! Clearly, you know neither Ben or Haywood! The two are nothing alike.
Jo Mama

United States

#25 Jun 29, 2008
PS: No one lost. The judge hasn't made a decision on all the charges yet.

“"Trying to be civil!"”

Since: May 08

Central Florida

#26 Jun 29, 2008
DanaBartonish wrote:
<quoted text>
shelters are over run
pantries and soup kitchens are emptied soon
there the meals on wheels program is shutting down because of fuel.
it isnt that easy to just"find a place to go"
you dont know this until you have been homeless.
about 20 years ago i was,and it was hard i cannot imagine how it would be now as hard as times are.
sad sad situation.
as far as feeding someone who cares where it is as long as the person gets a meal?
Dana,
Not to barge into this conversation, but the city has indeed designated an area for the homeless to be fed. They do not like it. It is indeed a dreary place, but the city has said that it can be done there. In an interview two or more years ago when this was first brought up, the homeless interviewed said they would not eat there, they wanted to eat in the park.
So that sort of dismantles your argument of "who cares where it is as long as the person gets a meal?"
Who cares? They care. They made the decisions that this place was not appropriate.
The homeless also foolishly put their faith in FNB which has a much more interesting agenda than helping the homeless - it is called political anarchy and they are proud of it.
Do not mix helping people with an anarchists statement. Why not just help people?

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