Mardi Gras Indian culture, costumes, ...

Mardi Gras Indian culture, costumes, music put on display at New Orleans Jazz Fest

There are 8 comments on the Penticton Herald story from May 4, 2012, titled Mardi Gras Indian culture, costumes, music put on display at New Orleans Jazz Fest. In it, Penticton Herald reports that:

Mardi Gras Indians have been parading at Carnival and Louisiana festivals for generations, but growing interest in their culture has the dancing, costumed Indians on display in a new way at this year's New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival.

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“Obsidian Princess”

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#1 May 5, 2012
The "keepers of the flame" have changed their name to the "indian moroon society" or something to that affect.

“Obsidian Princess”

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#2 May 5, 2012
maroon.

i have attended events where the mardi gras indians and maroon societies were performing in their beautifull, self-hand made costumes, singing their folk songs, playing their folk instraments and dancing their native-folk dances.

fascinating!
UruEuWauWau

São Luís, Brazil

#3 May 7, 2012
dragonpat wrote:
The "keepers of the flame" have changed their name to the "indian moroon society" or something to that affect.
Yo, seka, yo! ;-D Howdy, my boirrakaambiingah sis! ;-)

- ya mean these Louisiana 'Indians'?! ;-P
youtu.be/PLJoY_LHLNU
- or these Louisiana Mardi Gras Indians?! ;-)
youtu.be/DxSDfoZxtyE
- or is it these 'Indians' from Louisiana?
youtu.be/jbEN_HT2xE8
youtu.be/P3PEAXQg-ug
- or maybe these 'Indians' from Louisiana?! ;-P
youtu.be/KoH67sLgDcU

But this is just a modern carnival trend mixed w/ various historical memories of Black Yanks & creoles in Louisiana & neighborin' st8s. It has nuttin' to do w/ the real Usonian Amerindian tribes. ;-) This is kinda Black carnival from Louisiana, which is also interestin' alright. ;-D
UruEuWauWau

São Luís, Brazil

#4 May 7, 2012
dragonpat wrote:
maroon.
i have attended events where the mardi gras indians and maroon societies were performing in their beautifull, self-hand made costumes, singing their folk songs, playing their folk instraments and dancing their native-folk dances.
fascinating!
Interestin', sis! ;-) Can ya link here some of Louisiana maroon meetings/events?! ;-P I'm curious, cause not much can be seen or heard of 'em. ;-P Officially, the real old maroon communities in the St8s disappeared in time by the 20th century.

- if ya check out this gr8 (to me one of the best & most thorough nonbiased documentaries about Louisiana's historical heritage ever made in the USA) documentary regardin' maroons, creoles, slaves, French, Amerindians & various cultures that Xisted in Louisiana long ago. Unfortun8ly it's mostly in French, but if ya have some buddy that speaks French y'all learn more than on any Anglo based site. It's worth this one hour & a half duration. ;-)
youtu.be/a3EzS3H5mqI

The basic recap would be, Haitians heavily influenced, contributed & in part formed what's now Black Yank core identity/culture in Louisiana. & they are also in the base of USA's Blues & Jazz, as crazy as it sounds. ;-D Watch the documentary & ya'll understand things as 'black code' under French, amongst other things. ;-) Good portion of the documentary is in English, so even not knowin' French it'll help ya a lot in life, I reckon. A'soh ;-)
UruEuWauWau

São Luís, Brazil

#5 May 8, 2012
Well, speakin' about Black Yank culture vs Afro-diasporan & African cultures, I just noticed sump'n interestin'. ;-) Accordin' to 'black code',@ least in Louisiana, for a long period of time, Black Yanks had an opportunity to preserve a big part of their African & Haitian cultural heritage. Yet somehow, nuttin' much is left. ;-) On that documentary I linked, there was some drummin' seen similar to Haitian voodoo events & rhythmic patterns. Then again, today ya can't find this anywhere in the USA. ;-P I wonder why. So here I'll try to compare what's left of African 'cultural' heritage amongst Black Yanks vs Afro-diasporans & Africans. ;-)

- this is the only Black Yank & creole mostly African part preserved/left to this d8 in the USA, when it comes to rhythm. Blues, Jazz, Soul, all is based & built on these basic rhythms
youtu.be/48Vp370bkOs
youtu.be/jbEN_HT2xE8

- now let's check some of Haitian equivalents. ;-) Obviously, here Africa, & even some Arawakan rhythmic elements stand out ;-P
youtu.be/rqP0s9MBuoo
youtu.be/TJv-_A3htBU
youtu.be/8eYntHPaab0

- now comes C.Africa, or actually, Congo. ;-) Haitian 'rara' is somewhat similar to Congolese 'teke' ;-D
youtu.be/OqwcT8P8mLQ

- & now Cuba comes in w/ this tune, which has a mixture of W. & C.African rhythmic elements mixed in. However, C.African dance moves stand out ;-P
youtu.be/N6bhEeKy3N0

- now let's check the most mixed country in S.America after BRA. ;-D Surinam has one of the most genuine maroon groups, w/ other Guyanas & a few BRA maroon communities left, in all Americas, although bein' somewhat influenced by local Amerindian cultures, they're as close as one can culturally get to Africa in Americas ;-)
youtu.be/Wcdg2nHTySc
youtu.be/WSnEpwnLQhs
youtu.be/E23IMkE4n8o

- & I'll conclude this short round of comparison w/ the biggest cultural meltin' point in Americas, & surely a cultural powerhouse when it comes to still Xistin' various cultures from Americas, Africa, Europe & Asia, which is BRA. ;-) But here only African & little Amerindian part of BRA will be shown, obviously. I'll start w/ mostly African part. ;-) It'll cover more or less all BRA st8s randomly coverin' from north all the way to Xtreme south ;-D
youtu.be/ojM7lJ7ZwOM
youtu.be/yH-fp2nRUQ4
youtu.be/SISZ4w_KlfM
youtu.be/M8SsoRd_5ug
youtu.be/i19QLsTYSTU
youtu.be/bq2iV8zIuME

- now mixed Afro-Amerindian BRA rhythms ;-P
youtu.be/0UYuvLt2ZYc
youtu.be/tSexB9WUr90
youtu.be/wbtvaNuP23I
youtu.be/WXi-sBFCguc
youtu.be/5peA6J5OqmE

- & here are two samples of Afro-European BRA rhythms
youtu.be/M4AoqxiEmpo
youtu.be/PP_StIl3NDA

- & finally one of many Amerindian BRA rhythms ;-)
youtu.be/xz49sC0jI3w

All in all, it seems African & Amerindian part of USA is dyin'@ fast pace, or mostly dead, w/ an Xception in Louisiana (African) & some southwestern st8s (Amerindian). ;-P Yet both African & Amerindian parts of L. & S.America are still strong, which is good, & hopefully it'll stay that way even in the future. ;-)

“Obsidian Princess”

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#6 May 8, 2012
^^new orleans actually has a culture even though most blk people down here are unaware of it...and they practice a lot of it everyday!
UruEuWauWau

São Luís, Brazil

#7 May 8, 2012
dragonpat wrote:
^^new orleans actually has a culture even though most blk people down here are unaware of it...and they practice a lot of it everyday!
Oh, here ya are, sis. ;-) Can ya link me some maroon group from Louisiana, or other USA st8s?! I'm really interested in their rhythms & culture, but couldn't find any so far. ;-P There are good samples from Jamaica, Haiti & a few other Caribbean islands, but nuttin' rel8d to maroons in the USA. ;-) Yet I know they Xisted. ;-P
UruEuWauWau

Blumenau, Brazil

#8 May 10, 2012
dragonpat wrote:
^^new orleans actually has a culture even though most blk people down here are unaware of it...and they practice a lot of it everyday!
My boirrakaambiingah sis, lemme show ya somethin' interestin', again. ;-) I actually doubt there's any real Black Yank maroon group left in the USA, today. For Xample, BRA still has some 2230 maroon communities, of which only 30 are really old & historical. Colombia has, Venezuela has two, Surinam(e) has 6, Jamaica has 1, & other L. & S.American countries have none. ;-P Let's start w/ USA/Yankistan.

- these Black Yank group are known as Gullah/Geechee, & they are half real & half fake. Especially in rhythmic/drums part they are fake ;-P
youtu.be/4vkGyO32Eus
- but these Colombian maroons are real 100%
youtu.be/sKs0XKain3E
youtu.be/Yk4fNSFefWE
- then here ya have some of those 2K+ BRA maroon groups & their rhythms & dances, all real & in continuation
youtu.be/SSOVTPbSmjM
youtu.be/ALtAF81Cpps
youtu.be/APm53zCsr7Q
youtu.be/Jg9hhCswUf4
youtu.be/MlMaqZBnl4g
youtu.be/jqBusZrLEjM
youtu.be/Nk6WvUVtGDQ
youtu.be/YQfOFaJvn6o
- now, Peru doesn't have maroon communities anymore, but Afro-Peruvian communities integr8 even local maroon traditions, rhythms & dances
youtu.be/qgah34cPa2I
youtu.be/j_VyrnOCXyI
youtu.be/Q5Ot3Y-dErY
- & finally, Afro-Ecuatorians also dun have maroon communities left around, but their cultures & traditions are merged into one head of various & diverse faces
youtu.be/YOA7nXg_GRw
youtu.be/DY0zeHnRR4M
youtu.be/hFkI1ofu-sg

I could go on w/ other Afro-Latin & Afro-Caribbean cultures, but this was just to give ya a shortest insight of what Afro-diasporan cultures & traditions outside the USA look like, in case of maroons. There's a lot of similarity between many Afro-BRA & Afro-Latin & even Afro-Caribbean cultures, however cultural diversity & number of Afro-BRA cultures goes beyond all Afro-Latin & Afro-diasporan cultures in the world. Hope this helps yo' quest, sis. Stay always blessed, sharp & smart. A'soh ;-)

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