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“Hug A Tree”

Since: Oct 07

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#1 Jul 1, 2008
I feel this would be the best place to discuss Native American history. Jump in any time with something you would like to discuss. Just have fun in learning.
Pecatewah Petweowa

Gloucester, VA

#2 Jul 20, 2008
Where should we start ? Mammoth and Long Horn Bison Hunters ?

Hopewell Culture ?

Algonquian and Iroquoian drifts in the East ?

“Meow”

Since: May 07

Yacking up a topix hairball

#3 Jul 26, 2008
This is a tough one. How about theories on why no wheels?
maria

Columbus, GA

#4 Aug 3, 2008
well i for one am mystified by the legend of the thunderbird
ChinsRule

United States

#5 Aug 3, 2008
maria wrote:
well i for one am mystified by the legend of the thunderbird
So am i!! There was a special on television about them recently. People are still reporting seeing them even today! Did you see that?

What's your take on them?

“Hug A Tree”

Since: Oct 07

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#6 Aug 3, 2008
maria wrote:
well i for one am mystified by the legend of the thunderbird
It is definitely one of the more intense legends there are. I could stand for one to come through about now with a good storm, hehehe.

Which one are you familiar with? There are quite a few different names for it from different tribes/nations.

I'm YC, nice to meet you.

“Hug A Tree”

Since: Oct 07

Help Save Our Wolves

#7 Aug 3, 2008
maria wrote:
well i for one am mystified by the legend of the thunderbird
Maria, since this legend is one you are 'mystified' by, you know you are more than welcome to post the legend down in the legend and folklore thread. Just find one you like and copy and past it. Even if one is already there, you can post a different one if you like.
You are more than welcome to post anything.
Glad you found us.
maria

Columbus, GA

#8 Aug 4, 2008
ChinsRule wrote:
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So am i!! There was a special on television about them recently. People are still reporting seeing them even today! Did you see that?
What's your take on them?
i saw the show too!!! i think they are amazing and majestic, and such a mystery!!!
maria

Columbus, GA

#9 Aug 4, 2008
yoga chic wrote:
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It is definitely one of the more intense legends there are. I could stand for one to come through about now with a good storm, hehehe.
Which one are you familiar with? There are quite a few different names for it from different tribes/nations.
I'm YC, nice to meet you.
well im familiar with the legends from my tribe, the cherokee, of great beautiful birds (eagles in particular) that are highly prominent in every day life

“Meow”

Since: May 07

Yacking up a topix hairball

#10 Aug 4, 2008
maria wrote:
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well im familiar with the legends from my tribe, the cherokee, of great beautiful birds (eagles in particular) that are highly prominent in every day life
Apparently not all tribes believe the Thunderbird is the eagle. I was with a Shaman once that was adamant about it being the Turkey Vulture. We use to tick him off later by calling it a buzzard.

Ooooooh, did we ever get dirty looks from him for that blasphemy. Of course he found equally as silly ways to get us back.
eagle feather

Columbus, GA

#11 Aug 4, 2008
this is still maria!!! LOL!!! i bet you DID get some definate looks from the shaman!!!! ok this may seem weird but my family is a christian family but we still live by the old ways... i love working with eagles and hawks and vultures. they are so beautiful to me!!!

“Hug A Tree”

Since: Oct 07

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#12 Aug 4, 2008
eagle feather wrote:
this is still maria!!! LOL!!! i bet you DID get some definate looks from the shaman!!!! ok this may seem weird but my family is a christian family but we still live by the old ways... i love working with eagles and hawks and vultures. they are so beautiful to me!!!
Honey, of us are Christian and still incorporate our 'old ways' into it. I believe it all part of the same path. We are all as one. IMHO.
eagle feather

Columbus, GA

#13 Aug 5, 2008
i kno it just made me a little nervous cuz i didnt kno where you stood

“Meow”

Since: May 07

Yacking up a topix hairball

#14 Aug 5, 2008
eagle feather wrote:
i kno it just made me a little nervous cuz i didnt kno where you stood
Oh Christian here, too! I am also very interested in the local/indigenous ways of the people. The shaman was Shoshone. I am not that, but a hybrid...lol

Since: Feb 08

sandy run,sc

#15 Aug 12, 2008
the Wanderling

Throughout most history and almost all cultures there has been tales, stories, and legends of giant birds. I have heard many of the stories myself, although in real life the largest living flying bird I ever saw personally was a California Condor with a wingspan of around nine feet. I have seen, and many times over because I have found myself going back and looking at it again and again ever since my Uncle took me there as a young boy, the skeleton of the Teratorn found in and now on display at the La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles, California. When alive that particular bird had a wingspan somewhere between fourteen to sixteen feet.

There continues to be reports of huge birds and flying creatures being sighted around the country to this day, such as the sightings of Thunderbirds over Illinois, giant avians from Native American lore that rode the winds and updrafts ahead of moving storms to the so-called Cloud Dragons over Texas, reputed to be fifty-foot wingspan pterosaurs. However physical evidence of those sightings, from photos, to footprints, to feathers, is usually not forthcoming. There is evidence in the fossil record of the huge pterosaurs as well as giant feathered birds capable of flying with wingspans as large as twenty-five feet, and, in relation to the birds, not necessarily that far back in time. As reported in the article presented below by David Rhys the feather size from such a bird is estimated to have been 1.5 meters long (60 inches); and 20 centimeters wide (8 inches). Such a size would make the feather at least five feet long, similar in length to the one described as coming from the American southwest in The Boy and the Giant Feather.

In the flood plain of the Willamette Valley near Portland, Oregon at a place called Mill Creek Park a large bone was found that the excavators first identified as the leg bone of an elk. However, further examination revealed it to be the upper wing bone of a bird. The size of the bone meant that the wing span of the bird would had to have been well over twelve feet, and probably closer to fourteen to sixteen feet. Other recovered elements include both quadrates and other cranial bones, partial dentaries, partial sternum and other partial post-cranial bones, and a series of cervical and thoracic vertebrae. Given the size of the bones even the giant condor was small compared to this specimen.
danceswithweeble s

São Caetano Do Sul, Brazil

#16 Mar 11, 2009
nano?
danceswithweeble s

São Caetano Do Sul, Brazil

#17 Mar 11, 2009
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“Meow”

Since: May 07

Yacking up a topix hairball

#18 Mar 15, 2009
danceswithweebles wrote:
nano?
what?
nanotech

Salt Lake City, UT

#19 Mar 18, 2009
danceswithweebles wrote:
nano?
yes? It took me a minute to find the site. Thank you for the link...
eagle feather

Harvest, AL

#20 Mar 20, 2009
Little Cat wrote:
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Oh Christian here, too! I am also very interested in the local/indigenous ways of the people. The shaman was Shoshone. I am not that, but a hybrid...lol
lol me too! i am half cherokee and choctaw (lol the song indian outlaw!) my grandmother was full cherokee and choctaw. i am also powhatan and titan sioux. my great times 6 grandfather was chief big feather

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