A first for Saudis: Mozart performed ...

A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders

There are 12 comments on the www.chinadaily.com.cn story from May 3, 2008, titled A first for Saudis: Mozart performed for both genders. In it, www.chinadaily.com.cn reports that:

It's probably as revolutionary and groundbreaking as Mozart gets these days. A German-based quartet staged Saudi Arabia's first-ever performance of European classical music in a public venue before a mixed ...

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Just Me

Diablo, CA

#1 May 5, 2008
Wow! Western music, piano, strings, mixed sex audience...? How evil!

Num mo ami tofu... num mo amitofo...
Stones

Knutsford, UK

#2 May 5, 2008
It is almost like cave men hearin music for the first time. Waoo! is this an indication, the light of civilization finally penetrating the most darkest uncivilized balckhole created by Muhammad.
Sweets

Norcross, GA

#3 May 5, 2008
What may appear to be good for society may not seem so in the long run.
Naeem

South Africa

#4 May 5, 2008
This is truly the decline of the last piece of goodness and innocence left in this world. Flooding western culture into a society that neither will benefit or deserves to be punished by it. I csnnot understand how people can critisise Islam and Prophet Muhammed (SAW) when they have no ideas of his Teachings and no capabiltiy to understand his legacy. In a world corrupted by money, sex and power, his teachings have created a safe haven for those who follow it. So i would critisie the west, because if this is what you call being civilised... we are going backwards...

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#5 May 5, 2008
Naeem wrote:
This is truly the decline of the last piece of goodness and innocence left in this world. Flooding western culture into a society that neither will benefit or deserves to be punished by it. I csnnot understand how people can critisise Islam and Prophet Muhammed (SAW) when they have no ideas of his Teachings and no capabiltiy to understand his legacy. In a world corrupted by money, sex and power, his teachings have created a safe haven for those who follow it. So i would critisie the west, because if this is what you call being civilised... we are going backwards...
Are you joking??

What's wrong with men and women listening to Mozart????
Just Me

Diablo, CA

#6 May 5, 2008
Naeem wrote:
This is truly the decline of the last piece of goodness and innocence left in this world. Flooding western culture into a society that neither will benefit or deserves to be punished by it. I csnnot understand how people can critisise Islam and Prophet Muhammed (SAW) when they have no ideas of his Teachings and no capabiltiy to understand his legacy. In a world corrupted by money, sex and power, his teachings have created a safe haven for those who follow it. So i would critisie the west, because if this is what you call being civilised... we are going backwards...
Why is appreciation of piano and music so bad compared to other evil thing in KSA you seem to ignore?

Since: Dec 06

Jidah

#7 May 5, 2008
Naeem wrote:
This is truly the decline of the last piece of goodness and innocence left in this world. Flooding western culture into a society that neither will benefit or deserves to be punished by it. I csnnot understand how people can critisise Islam and Prophet Muhammed (SAW) when they have no ideas of his Teachings and no capabiltiy to understand his legacy. In a world corrupted by money, sex and power, his teachings have created a safe haven for those who follow it. So i would critisie the west, because if this is what you call being civilised... we are going backwards...
everyone loves Mozart symphonies. whats wrong if i heard it ? is the world going to end ? is it so evil ? is it a sign of corruption ?

i think you don't know what Mozart symphonies sound like but if you hear them you'll recognize it.
Arindam

Doha, Qatar

#8 May 5, 2008
Saudi Arabian wrote:
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everyone loves Mozart symphonies. whats wrong if i heard it ? is the world going to end ? is it so evil ? is it a sign of corruption ?
Actually it is - according to all FOUR of the main Islamic jurists,(Abu Hanifa, Ahmed Hanbal, Imam Malik and Shafi.) Thus all four schools of Sunni jurisprudence agree on this.

Here's the sermon the prohibition on music:

http://www.masjidshaafici.com/prohibition.htm...

The entire sermon is worth reading, but I'll just quote a few paragraphs below:

Regarding singing:

"Dear brothers, the battle between Satan, supported by his human and jinn soldiers, and the believers is endless; it never ceases. We experience this battle each day, hour and even each minute. On the very day that Allaah cursed him and dismissed him down to earth, Satan swore that he would wage a bitter war in which he would mobilize all those he could manage to corrupt. He adopted many methods and different means in order to trap the children of Aadam. Among such traps through which he snares people with little religious knowledge and understanding is listening to songs accompanied by prohibited musical instruments. Songs make the heart deviate from the Holy Qur'aan and turn towards ugly deeds and vices. They are the "holy books" of Satan and the thick veil that stands as a stumbling block between a person and his Lord. It is the gate to adultery and sodomy. It is the means adopted by dissipated lovers in order to attain their ends. It is the method through which vicious jinns harm mankind.

Almost all people, save those whom Allaah chose, are taken to singing to the extent that you may find a father teaching his child how to sing and encourage him to do this ugly deed. It has more than ten different names in religion. It is called idle tales, nonsense, falsehood, whistling and clapping, the gate to adultery, the holy book of Satan, the source of hypocrisy in hearts, the foolish voice, the dissolute voice, the voice of Satan, the piper of Satan, and Sumood (singing in the dialect of the old people of Yemen)."

Regarding Music:

" You will never find any person taken to singing and listening to musical instruments without at least a degree of deviation from true guidance. He does not have the desire to listen to the Qur'aan and even prefers songs to it, to the extent that if he had to choose between the two, he would listen to songs. Even if he listens to the Qur'aan, he finds it hard to understand and assimilate it, and this may lead him to ask the one reciting to stop his recitation session because he feels that it is too long. As for songs, he asks the singer for more and feels that the song was very short."

"Our Prophet sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam warned against listening to songs and musical instruments, as he said: "There will be people of my Community who will hold fornication, silk, wine, and musical instruments to be lawful''(Bukhaari)

If such things mentioned in the hadith had been lawful, the Prophet sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam would have never condemned those who consider them legal, and he would not have mentioned them along with the already prohibited wine and silk.

Sahl bin S`ad As-Sa`di reported that the Prophet sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam said: "This Community will experience the swallowing up of some people by the earth, the metamorphosis of some into animals, and being rained upon with stones.'' Someone asked,``When will this be, O Messenger of Allah?''. He said,``When female singers and musical instruments appear and wine is held to be lawful.''(Ahmad & Tirmithi)"

So as you can see, Allah does not condone music and/or singing. On the other hand, he's very happy with killing the infidels in the orchestra.
Just Me

Oakland, CA

#9 May 6, 2008
Arindam wrote:
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So as you can see, Allah does not condone music and/or singing. On the other hand, he's very happy with killing the infidels in the orchestra.
Did his prophet beat the drums when infidel throats are being slit one by one?
Naeem

South Africa

#10 May 6, 2008
It's not listening to mozart. it's the fact that music is being slowly introduced publicly like this into the islamic society. Now why do people who cannot seem to understand the perfect rules and principles of islam critisize it?? Before doing so, please educate youself in the real teachings of this perfect faith and not rely on the info given in the media etc....

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#11 Jun 2, 2008
Another thread on music being bumped.
:)

“Maiden of Mayhem”

Since: May 08

OMFUG

#12 Jun 3, 2008
Naeem wrote:
It's not listening to mozart. it's the fact that music is being slowly introduced publicly like this into the islamic society. Now why do people who cannot seem to understand the perfect rules and principles of islam critisize it?? Before doing so, please educate youself in the real teachings of this perfect faith and not rely on the info given in the media etc....
That makes no sense. As a concert pianist and composer, not introducing something as truly brilliant as Mozart into a culture is almost criminal.

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